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They just can't let us go out into the world and be on our own, can

they? They always have to have that smirk on their face like they

know better and we're going to screw it up.

My nada didn't want me to get married, was mostly a pain in the ass,

but I earnestly kept trying (in my ignorance)....

Then, when I graduated from college, she found a medical emergency

with her father to rush off to, and conveniently missed it. She

could have flown out the next day, as there was nothing she could do

anyway. But, she said " I had to be there for my mother " ......How

about your daughter?

She has continued to find something wrong with every life passage

I've gone through.

I am finally starting to wise up at age 44. You're so lucky you've

gotten smarter a lot earlier. Your life will be better for it.

What moxie it took for you to not invite her! I salute your

courage! That was the right thing to do!

Kind of like following through on a tough punishment for a child so

that they'll never forget the lesson.

Good for you for digging out of the hole she put you in.

{hugs}

Kyla

>

> thank you kyla.

>

> yes, the engaged thing was what sent me into a state of " the last

> straw " and yielded me into therapy. her response to my engagement

was

> a long exhale and " i kind of figured this would happen " . nothing

happy

> about it. then it was six months of her telling a lot of lies to my

> family, that i expected everyone to pay for my wedding but i wanted

> everything my way. (mind you, she offered to pay for the venue and

i

> accepted... i guess that means i was using her? wanting everything

my

> way; i.e. i wanted to wear a strapless gown) she then proceeded to

say

> that she probably would not have time to come to the wedding and

that

> if she even did, she couldn't relate to my social circle and has

> nothing in common with our kind of people. (my husband and i are

> tattooed, but pretty straight-laced and normal, for the most part.

> needless to say, that when i was in my teens she used to use meth

and

> hang out with other addicts, who were inappropriate in many ways,

> tattooed people on our couch - and yes, my mother acquired a couple

> tattoos during that time- even tried to convince me to get one

when i

> was, i don't know, 15? funny how she's above that now.)i ended up

not

> inviting her and haven't spoken to her since.

>

> she sends my husband and i cards exclaiming cliche's like, " enjoy

your

> marriage and know that everyday together is a blessing and may your

> love continue to grow " , blah, blah, blah. like nothing ever

happened.

> i'm sure she has it in her head that i'm the one that's being an a-

hole.

>

> anyway, thanks again and i will be in touch and active on this

board!

> -christine

>

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Oh, and I forgot to mention: What IS it with BPDs and cliche's?

My nada spouts these sayings and " statistics " that she's either made

up, or is parroting from some news program she saw. I think she's

susceptible to just hopping on any old thought bandwagon because she

truly has no strongly held beliefs of her own. (Well, she likes to

rage against authority, so I guess that's a viewpoint.)

She loves to start these sayings and platitudes with " In this

country.... " If she can knock our country while doing it, all the

better.

Some of them have been unintentially funny -- " We have too much food

in this country " ...... " We don't know how to grieve in this

country " ....

The list is endless. It's worse when she's been drinking. I have a

hard time not busting out laughing at some of them.

Ugh.

-Kyla

>

> thank you kyla.

>

> yes, the engaged thing was what sent me into a state of " the last

> straw " and yielded me into therapy. her response to my engagement

was

> a long exhale and " i kind of figured this would happen " . nothing

happy

> about it. then it was six months of her telling a lot of lies to my

> family, that i expected everyone to pay for my wedding but i wanted

> everything my way. (mind you, she offered to pay for the venue and

i

> accepted... i guess that means i was using her? wanting everything

my

> way; i.e. i wanted to wear a strapless gown) she then proceeded to

say

> that she probably would not have time to come to the wedding and

that

> if she even did, she couldn't relate to my social circle and has

> nothing in common with our kind of people. (my husband and i are

> tattooed, but pretty straight-laced and normal, for the most part.

> needless to say, that when i was in my teens she used to use meth

and

> hang out with other addicts, who were inappropriate in many ways,

> tattooed people on our couch - and yes, my mother acquired a couple

> tattoos during that time- even tried to convince me to get one

when i

> was, i don't know, 15? funny how she's above that now.)i ended up

not

> inviting her and haven't spoken to her since.

>

> she sends my husband and i cards exclaiming cliche's like, " enjoy

your

> marriage and know that everyday together is a blessing and may your

> love continue to grow " , blah, blah, blah. like nothing ever

happened.

> i'm sure she has it in her head that i'm the one that's being an a-

hole.

>

> anyway, thanks again and i will be in touch and active on this

board!

> -christine

>

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thanks kyla! yes, they do seem to get more insane with big life

passages, because that means you're individuating and separating. i

was telling my husband the other day that nada refused to take a

picture with me after my highschool graduation and left because she

had a headache. i sat there, watching everybody else get

hugs/flowers/pictures while my mother got walked back to her car. that

was nice.

the wedding, well that was a disaster (with nada) from the beginning.

and because my foo didn't want any added tensions from nada, nobody

from my foo came except for one cousin. it was a beautiful day, don't

get me wrong. but i still feel kind of sad when i go through the

wedding album and there's so much of my husband's family and only one

from mine. but, i will and always have felt that my friends are my

family...and there was plenty of them there that day, so it kind of

makes up for it.

THE CLICHE'S! yes! they have many, don't they? my nada's favorite is

" know why they call it the present? because everyday is a gift. " sucks

because it really is a beautiful statement. too bad she has no idea

what it means. it just sounds good to her, i suppose. and you're right

about having no sense of self and the reasoning in clinging to them.

i've always felt that way about nada.

love to you kyla.

-christine.

> >

> > thank you kyla.

> >

> > yes, the engaged thing was what sent me into a state of " the last

> > straw " and yielded me into therapy. her response to my engagement

> was

> > a long exhale and " i kind of figured this would happen " . nothing

> happy

> > about it. then it was six months of her telling a lot of lies to my

> > family, that i expected everyone to pay for my wedding but i wanted

> > everything my way. (mind you, she offered to pay for the venue and

> i

> > accepted... i guess that means i was using her? wanting everything

> my

> > way; i.e. i wanted to wear a strapless gown) she then proceeded to

> say

> > that she probably would not have time to come to the wedding and

> that

> > if she even did, she couldn't relate to my social circle and has

> > nothing in common with our kind of people. (my husband and i are

> > tattooed, but pretty straight-laced and normal, for the most part.

> > needless to say, that when i was in my teens she used to use meth

> and

> > hang out with other addicts, who were inappropriate in many ways,

> > tattooed people on our couch - and yes, my mother acquired a couple

> > tattoos during that time- even tried to convince me to get one

> when i

> > was, i don't know, 15? funny how she's above that now.)i ended up

> not

> > inviting her and haven't spoken to her since.

> >

> > she sends my husband and i cards exclaiming cliche's like, " enjoy

> your

> > marriage and know that everyday together is a blessing and may your

> > love continue to grow " , blah, blah, blah. like nothing ever

> happened.

> > i'm sure she has it in her head that i'm the one that's being an a-

> hole.

> >

> > anyway, thanks again and i will be in touch and active on this

> board!

> > -christine

> >

>

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