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Hello , I am in Australia, but I do know there are several

people in this group and in the bronchfriends group, who attend the

Mayo Clinic.

I get newsletters from the MAYO, they have a wonderful name for their

work in heart , lung and mental health.

So you should get some responses from either groups.

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Any suggestion what antibiotics in the drug menuI should take now? My primary doc is clueless, on Fridays, myrespirologist won't work. Appreciate any suggestions.

Karin..I've found that Azythro didn't do much to help me either. Right now I'm on a 10 day regime of Ceftin..2xs/day..then I'll be starting Augmentin for another 10 days.

A couple years back I was on Doxycycline, like Marsha, for 14 days..skipped a week, then on Erythomyacin, like Marsha, for 14 days..skipped another week. I was on that regime for 3 mos. It really helped.

I hope you find the right med combo to help you.

Sandie in MD

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Dear Karin, Your respirologist should be following what bacteria is growing in your sputum cultures. Its important in order to make treatment decisions when doctors are choosing antibiotics. My infectious disease specialist uses my previous cultures as a guideline. As soon as an infection is brewing he always wants a new culture done and I also have another one done about a week post IVs (I'm on IV antibiotics every month). He treats based on previous cultures, because my new cultures tends to take weeks to process and often grow two or three or more different kinds of bacterias. Have you seen Dr. Tullis yet or one of the other bronch/CF doctors. If yes, perhaps calling the clinic at St. Mike's might provide you with more answers. My family doctor puts a call into my ID specialist whenever he is unsure. When my ID specialist is unavailable one of his colleagues is covering and they just call up for my chart and look at cultures and my GP

and the ID doctor has a discussion.Can your GP do likewise? If your respirologist is unavailable perhaps speaking to one of his colleagues. Does it work the same way? I assume one of the other specialists would have access to your chart. Whatever you do if your lungs are getting worse you need to see a doctor because infections that are not properly treated can lead to further lung damage. if worse comes to worse perhaps going to the ER at St. Mike's due to the hospital having the adult bronchiectass and CF clinic or going to your regular hospital. Hoping you are soon feeling much better. Hugs:0) Liz Pre-Lung Transplant Journey - For updates please visit my carepage and leave a message. Thank you! :o) carepages.com name:

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Karin..

A doctor is only as good as he is to your well being and care. He maybe ' all that ' ..but it doesn't sound, to me, as if he has your BEST interest ..as his patient..in check.

It sounds like you've got your plate full..but still, get a doctor who's gonna be there for you when you need him. What area do you live in?

Sandie in MD

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I take Doxycyclin 3 days per week; the following week I take Erythromycin

for 3 days, then back to Doxy. the following week and so on alternating

drugs three days per week plus postural drainage every day. Mucous will

always be a problem with bronchiectasis. You have to get rid of it

otherwise it sits in little puddles in your lungs and infections develop.

I have been on this regimen for 6 months and feel my illness is under

control now. Not to say I don't cough during the day as I do, but I don't

have attacks like I used to have and I don't feel kind of sick all the time

like I used to feel. But if I skip the postural drainage for a day or two I

start to feel under the weather.

Marsha/NYC

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I live in the burbs. To take a sputum sample to the downtown hospital

lab takes 2 hours. Then what? I had asked Dr. Balter many times what

I should do between the twice yearly appointments. He said for my

primary doctor to call him. My family phys. does, but Dr. Balter is

never available. When Dr. Balter (Mt. Sinai) is not in the office, no

one has access to my chart.

I had planned to switch over to St.Mike's but haven't been well enough

even to bother to go there. It's 1 1/2 h by public transportation.

Some years ago I happened to be getting sick while in the city, I

walked into Dr.Balter's office, he said I should have called he

doesn't run a walk in clinic. I turned around to leave saying fine, I

will go to the ER. He then said, o.k. sit down, I'll squeeze you in.

He is a highly thought of respirologist. He is on the phone

throughout the day giving advice to other respirologists about hard to

treat cases. He's a professor, lecturer at the U of T. He has a

fellowship of this and that, he had his resp. training in the US. I

also found out that he's more interested in Asthma patients.

When he sees me on scheduled appointments, I am fine, I do almost as

well as a healthy person on the spirometer I guess it's called. My

bronchiectasis is minimal as he says. But throughout the 40 years it

has spread from the lower lobe to the right middle lobe.

I also have mitral valve prolapse due to untreated infections.

Someitmes it's better to live in a smaller city, get better treatment

I think. I need to take antibiotics abt. 3 times a year. For 3 years

now it's been Avelox and Azithromycin, isn't there another antibiotic

I can take or is this it. Mycobacteria has never shown on my

bronchoscopy, I have streptococcus pneumonia b.--that showed up in

Dec. 2005. I am part of a study, as if that's going to help me.

Karin

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> Dear Karin,

>

> Your respirologist should be following what bacteria is growing in

your sputum cultures. Its important in order to make treatment

decisions when doctors are choosing antibiotics. My infectious disease

specialist uses my previous cultures as a guideline.

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Thanks Sandie, I made a note of the three drugs I haven't taken yet.

I will see what the doc says. I did ask the pharmacist what other

doctors prescribe for chest infections, he mentioned the ones I have

been on in the past and the present azithromycin and avelox. The

avelox made me dizzy and nocious. The azithromycin worked. But 3

days later I was sick again. In the past I was on cipro, erithromycin

(sp) and some I can't remember. Too many years,

Karin

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> In a message dated 1/30/2007 10:36:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> karin_44@... writes:

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> Any suggestion what antibiotics in the drug menu

> I should take now? My primary doc is clueless, on Fridays, my

> respirologist won't work. Appreciate any suggestions.

>

>

>

> Karin..I've found that Azythro didn't do much to help me either.

Right now

> I'm on a 10 day regime of Ceftin..2xs/day..then I'll be starting

Augmentin for

> another 10 days.

> A couple years back I was on Doxycycline, like Marsha, for 14

days..skipped

> a week, then on Erythomyacin, like Marsha, for 14 days..skipped

another week.

> I was on that regime for 3 mos. It really helped.

> I hope you find the right med combo to help you.

> Sandie in MD

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>

>

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> Unless You're Willing to help

> Them Up

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thanks Marsha for replying, I wrote down the dox, I did take

Erythromycin some 15 years ago, don't think they will work. I will

check online if Dox is available in Canada

Karin

>

> I take Doxycyclin 3 days per week; the following week I take

Erythromycin

> for 3 days, then back to Doxy. the following week and so on alternating

> drugs three days per week plus postural drainage every day. Mucous will

> always be a problem with bronchiectasis. You have to get rid of it

> otherwise it sits in little puddles in your lungs and infections

develop.

>

> I have been on this regimen for 6 months and feel my illness is under

> control now. Not to say I don't cough during the day as I do, but I

don't

> have attacks like I used to have and I don't feel kind of sick all

the time

> like I used to feel. But if I skip the postural drainage for a day

or two I

> start to feel under the weather.

>

> Marsha/NYC

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Levaquin is just about the only antibiotic that works on my lung infections. I had one in January also with the horrible cough and digusting phlem. I am now free of both.Eileen_FL

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Hi,I had a lung infection early January. For 10 days I went on Avelox. When finished, January 14, I was so sick, chestpain, coughing up weirdcoloured phlegm, the usual. Back to my general practitioner, heprescibed Azithromycin. Now that I am done with the azithromycin, Istill have a croopy kind of cough. Cough up weird stuff. Back to thedoctor this Friday. Any suggestion what antibiotics in the drug menuI should take now? My primary doc is clueless, on Fridays, myrespirologist won't work. Appreciate any suggestions. Karin

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Dear Karin, Regardless of being well during appointments with Dr. Balter and in spite of his being in high demand you deserve better care. I guess my doctors have me a bit spoiled, because the infectious disease specialists are always available even when my ID speciliats is not and my chart is available. Even in the middle of the night a family or ER doctor can contact them. Granted, the respirology dept in Halifax hasn't been helpful, but ID has and I think patients deserve this kind of care. Its what being a doctor is all about. Is the nearest hospital helpful? Perhaps try the local ER if your GP isn't available. I found the best care to be at Toronto General for inpatients when compared to St. Mike's. However the St. Mike's clinic is very helpful. Hugs:0) LizKarin wrote: I live in the burbs. To take a sputum sample to the downtown hospitallab takes 2 hours. Then what? I had asked Dr. Balter many times whatI should do between the twice yearly appointments. He said for myprimary doctor to call him. My family phys. does, but Dr. Balter isnever available. When Dr. Balter (Mt. Sinai) is not in the office, noone has access to my chart. I had planned to switch over to St.Mike's but haven't been well enougheven to bother to go there. It's 1 1/2 h by public transportation. Some years ago I happened to be getting

sick while in the city, Iwalked into Dr.Balter's office, he said I should have called hedoesn't run a walk in clinic. I turned around to leave saying fine, Iwill go to the ER. He then said, o.k. sit down, I'll squeeze you in.He is a highly thought of respirologist. He is on the phonethroughout the day giving advice to other respirologists about hard totreat cases. He's a professor, lecturer at the U of T. He has afellowship of this and that, he had his resp. training in the US. Ialso found out that he's more interested in Asthma patients. When he sees me on scheduled appointments, I am fine, I do almost aswell as a healthy person on the spirometer I guess it's called. Mybronchiectasis is minimal as he says. But throughout the 40 years ithas spread from the lower lobe to the right middle lobe. I also have mitral valve prolapse due to untreated infections. Someitmes it's better to live in a smaller city, get

better treatmentI think. I need to take antibiotics abt. 3 times a year. For 3 yearsnow it's been Avelox and Azithromycin, isn't there another antibioticI can take or is this it. Mycobacteria has never shown on mybronchoscopy, I have streptococcus pneumonia b.--that showed up inDec. 2005. I am part of a study, as if that's going to help me.Karin>> Dear Karin,> > Your respirologist should be following what bacteria is growing inyour sputum cultures. Its important in order to make treatmentdecisions when doctors are choosing antibiotics. My infectious diseasespecialist uses my previous cultures as a guideline. Pre-Lung Transplant Journey - For updates please visit my carepage and leave a message. Thank you! :o) carepages.com name: maryelizabethholt Please watch: Live Life Then Give Life! - UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz33i6prkuQ. "Don't take your organs to Heaven, heaven knows we need them here."

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Dear Karin, Sandie gives you great advice. We care. You deserve so much better. There are better doctors. By better they keep their patient's interests at heart and are available for consultations even in between appointments. Hoping you are soon feeling much better! :o) Hugs:0) LizSunniesback55@... wrote: Karin.. A doctor is only as good as he is to your well being and care. He maybe ' all that ' ..but it doesn't sound, to me, as if he has your BEST interest ..as his patient..in check. It sounds like you've got your plate full..but still, get a doctor who's gonna be there for you when you need him.

What area do you live in? Sandie in MD The real art of conversation is to not only say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting momentPre-Lung Transplant Journey - For updates please visit my carepage and leave a message. Thank you! :o) carepages.com name: maryelizabethholt Please watch: Live Life Then Give Life! - UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz33i6prkuQ. "Don't take your organs to Heaven, heaven knows we need them here."

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Dear Karin, Its available in Canada, because I've had to take it before, but the doctors really need to be using your sputum cultures as a guideline. This is according to my ID specialist in Halifax. Hugs:0) LIzKarin wrote: thanks Marsha for replying, I wrote down the dox, I did takeErythromycin some 15 years ago, don't think they will work. I willcheck online if Dox is available in

CanadaKarin>> I take Doxycyclin 3 days per week; the following week I takeErythromycin> for 3 days, then back to Doxy. the following week and so on alternating> drugs three days per week plus postural drainage every day. Mucous will> always be a problem with bronchiectasis. You have to get rid of it> otherwise it sits in little puddles in your lungs and infectionsdevelop.> > I have been on this regimen for 6 months and feel my illness is under> control now. Not to say I don't cough during the day as I do, but Idon't> have attacks like I used to have and I don't feel kind of sick allthe time> like I used to feel. But if I skip the postural drainage for a dayor two I> start to feel under the

weather.> > Marsha/NYC>Pre-Lung Transplant Journey - For updates please visit my carepage and leave a message. Thank you! :o) carepages.com name: maryelizabethholt Please watch: Live Life Then Give Life! - UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz33i6prkuQ. "Don't take your organs to Heaven, heaven knows we need them here."

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Hi, thanks to everyone re antibiotics. My doctors do rotate them, but

I have become immune to all except the zithromax. Levaquin was

another one I took some years ago. I will just have to wait and see

till my Friday appointment witth the general practitioner.

Here is a list of antibiotics I have tanken in the last 40 years.

Tetracycline

Gentamicin

Ciprofloxacin

Amoxicillin

Ampicillin

Erythromycin

Azithromycin

Clarithromycin

Thanks, Karin

>

> Levaquin is just about the only antibiotic that works on my lung

infections. I had one in January also with the horrible cough and

digusting phlem. I am now free of both.

>

> Eileen_FL

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>Hi Karin, welcome to tha " god don,t let this be an infection " clan.

I am allergic to all meds oint blank,

I have been on all you have, gentamiacin being the last,

The silly nurse was told to give the last bag to me double slow cos ,

its something that cannot be hurried, people have heart attacks etc.

She was running late on the ward and cut many corners, another sister

came in a reminded her about my drip, and the correct drip rate etc,

when the sister left the girl came over looked at her watch and said to

me and another, god these things are slow, and Iv,e seen the do it a

lot faster.

She came over and began to fiddle, a youger nurse watched and reminded

her what had been said, while the conversation took place, I wasn,t

watching her, but as she left my room, I could feel my heart my head

and then couldn,t move or speak, I was going to die.

I was just so lucky the young nurse was empting a drainage bag, she saw

that I had pulled the drip out of my arm and was passed out.

I found myself being resusced, and with people trying everythin, I went

down again and had to be zapped back.

I had died.

I was sent to Coronary care and kept 2 days more, visited by many staff

asking heaps of ??????

I came home ill, and well since have had a string of new complaints.

I had to have a big op, and the anaesthesist tried to get more info on

what had happened a year before.

Do you know nothing had been recorded in my chart, what caused me to

die, nor that 3 witnessed me yank the whole lot down and out of my arm.

I had my GP look to what they had sent him, and yes , I had died , eve

of coming home, yes I had managed to get the drip out and that, it was

me getting it out when I did, that really saved my life and the fact

the Jnr nurse was in the room.

No one would have known for hrs.

I am allergic to all meds as I have stated, and so do the totally and

all natural meds, and not another infection 12 years later.

Of the lot I think its better to take a slower acting drug than a short

quich dose if you hava high allergy rate.

Sorry Gendamiacin would have been my choice, but only with me having

total control.

I do have total control now over all my probs, cos truly no one will

risk anything, and neither will I.

I have died 4 times since cos of allergies to the simplest of meds.

So very vigilant with my total regime.

Hope you can keep well, and that something like Sandie suggests can

work for you.

I do know the dilemma, I just am so positive now, I rarely worry or

panic, unless I find out someone I have been with has something really

bad, and then I doule all I do, naturally.

Hugs Sandy

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Hi ,

My bronchiectasis is mild in comparison to your health problems. Due

to age, my other body parts are wearing out. More things to deal

with. Just different.

Here's the link about the latest about ER's in Ontario. I hate having

to sit in an uncomfortable chair for 7, 8 or 9 hours. With 40 others

who are mostly coughing, sneezing. I have a few matters to deal with

in Toronto, when I turn 65, I will move to a smaller town 3 hours away

from here. My Mt.Sinai respirologist is all for it, better air

quality. He has two colleagues for me to see there. It's in

borough,Ont. I was staying near borough, broke my wrist,

waiting time in the little local hospital, 5 minutes. That would be

unheard of in TO.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/01/25/er-waits.html?ref=rss

This will give you an update in re to ER's in TO,

thanks for the many advice, I really appreciate the group

Kain

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> I live in the burbs. To take a sputum sample to the downtown hospital

> lab takes 2 hours.

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Hi Gwen,

I had a bronchoscopy/lavage and a CT scan done around Dec. 2005.

Shortly after I received a call from a I.D. employee asking for my

permission to be included in a study. I said yes. The lab person

said I would not hear from the lab again, I would not get a report or

anything, she simply asked for my permission to release results from

the above tests. She said the rsults of the bronchoscopy/lavage

showed streptococcus pneumonaie bacteria. A 3 page report re the

study was faxed to me to be signed. I later told my respirologist

about it. He was furious. This lab person was not supposed to call

me without his permission. He said he'd take care of it. The lab

employee is no longer there. She was near retirement, I don't know

whether she was transferred to a different department, ot fired?

From what I understand the strep.p.b. is the same as the flesh eating

disease or toxic shock syndrome as it's called now. I am petrified of

infections.

links to the study

http://microbiology.mtsinai.on.ca/tibdn/education/links.asp

http://microbiology.mtsinai.on.ca/tibdn/studies/retrogas.asp

Karin

Karin

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who is conducting it?

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The first time I used it factive was like a miracle, I didn't cough for four days. The third time it didn't seem to work at all. The last time he gave me Cipro RonKarin wrote: Hi,I had a lung infection early January. For 10 days I went on Avelox. When finished, January 14, I was so sick, chestpain, coughing up weirdcoloured phlegm, the usual. Back to my general practitioner, heprescibed Azithromycin. Now that I am done with the azithromycin,

Istill have a croopy kind of cough. Cough up weird stuff. Back to thedoctor this Friday. Any suggestion what antibiotics in the drug menuI should take now? My primary doc is clueless, on Fridays, myrespirologist won't work. Appreciate any suggestions. Karin

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If you have bronchiectasis it is important that you do cough otherwise the

puddles of mucous sit in your lungs and you develop infections and perhaps

pneumonias. Coughing is a fact of life with this disease. If I skip my

postural drainage for a day or two I start to not feel well and cough much more

than when I do keep the pd up. So my advice to you is to not try and stop the

cough.

Marsha

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Hi,

I have taken Cipro years ago, done with them. They work like sugar

pills for me.

I went on Avelox Jan 3 or 4th, chest infection still present Jan 14th,

started Azythromycin. I visit my GP this morning, more Avelox. I

coughed up nasty looking phlegm streaked w. blood last night.

I visit my GP this morning. Avelox, again. I delivered a sputum

sample to the hospital lab. Results won't be in till Monday af. What

is a person to do till then? No choice, except for Avelox.

I have a suspicion other than giving me leg cramps and general

malaise, the Avelox no longer works for me either.

I sent a question by email to the National Jewish H. Here's there reply.

Dear Karin:

There are a variety of antibiotics that MAY be helpful in bronchiectasis.

Some like to rotate antibiotics empirically while others prefer to

sample sputa to find out what types of microorganisms are present and

what antibiotics are most active versus those bugs (that is my

preference).

Other things that can be done for bronchiectasis include devices like

the Acapella Valve, inhaled hypertonic saline and inhaled steroids

like Advair.

You might try to see Dr. Ted Marras in Toronto; he's very

knowledgeable in this area.

Sincerely,

D. Iseman, M.D.

Professor of Medicine

National Jewish Medical and Research Center

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Administrative Assistant to Daley, MD,

Iseman, MD, and Reuben Cherniack, MD,

Mycobacterial and Respiratory Infections Division

National Jewish Medical and Research Center

1400 Street, J200-3

Denver, CO 80206

I made an appointment with the doctor recommended by National Jewish.

Appointment is July 9th.

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I was dx'd with bronchiectasis in 1962. I am a firm believer of

drinking lots of fluids and percussion. My son was shown how to do it

when he was still in his teens.

I have done my own percussion for years now, several times a day and

subsequently cough up the phlegm, sputum. About twice a year I cough

up blood mixed with sputum. The bloody sputum usually means I have a

major infection going on.

The cough that started in Janurary is a croupy cough, or like a

whooping type of a cough, very unusual, not the type of cough when I

cough up the phlegm. I still cough my regular cough to get the stuff

up. Back on Avelox for the next 10 days, let's see.

Karin

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> If you have bronchiectasis it is important that you do cough

otherwise the puddles of mucous sit in your lungs and you develop

infections and perhaps pneumonias. Coughing is a fact of life with

this disease. If I skip my postural drainage for a day or two I start

to not feel well and cough much more than when I do keep the pd up.

So my advice to you is to not try and stop the cough.

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Dear Karin, The post from National Jewish is helpful, however so sorry you have to wait until July 9th for your appointment. It seems to take forever sometimes, I know and that's frustrating when we feel unwell now and need answers today. Is Dr. Marras a respirologist? Thinking of you, Hugs:0) LizPre-Lung Transplant Journey - For updates please visit my carepage and leave a message. Thank you! :o) carepages.com name: maryelizabethholt Please watch: Live Life Then Give Life! - UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz33i6prkuQ.

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Here are two links explaining about percussion. I live alone, I just

bend over and pound the heck out of my chest. Seems to work, Karin

http://www.njc.org/disease-info/diseases/bronchiectasis/treatment.aspx?#clear

Techniques To Clear Mucus From the Lungs

If you produce a large amount of mucus your healthcare provider may

recommend techniques to help clear the mucus.

* Devices such as the Acapella DMTM, Acapella Choice®, or Flutter

Valve® may help clear mucus from your lungs. These are small devices

you exhale into.

* The Vest® is an inflatable vest that you put on. The vest shakes

your chest to help clear the mucus.

* Postural drainage and clapping, uses gravity to promote drainage

of mucus from the lungs.

Each technique can be prescribed and demonstrated by your healthcare

provider.

and

http://medinfo.ufl.edu/year1/bcs/clist/chest.html#PROPER

Percussion

Proper Technique

1. Hyperextend the middle finger of one hand and place the distal

interphalangeal joint firmly against the patient's chest.

2. With the end (not the pad) of the opposite middle finger, use a

quick flick of the wrist to strike first finger.

3. Categorize what you hear as normal, dull, or hyperresonant.

4. Practice your technique until you can consistantly produce a

" normal " percussion note on your (presumably normal) partner before

you work with patients.

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