Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Risk linked to some painkillers creates dilemma Houston Chronicle 04/17/2005 Apr. 17-- Lacy, 74, sweats through exercise classes two times a week to strengthen muscles and ease the pain in his lower back and knees. But it's not enough, so the Houston resident depends on a prescription pain drug, knowing it may pose a risk to his cardiovascular health. " I'm living in tolerable pain. I think without (Celebrex) it would be intolerable pain, " Lacy said. " So it's worth the risk, for now. " For Lacy and millions of other Americans suffering from arthritis and other disorders, choosing a painkiller seems more risky each day. Nearly all of the most popular prescription and over-the-counter pain pills are now seemingly suspect, with wonder drugs Vioxx and Bextra off the market altogether. The recent cascade of bad news about pain pills is not only creating concern and confusion among consumers, it's frustrating doctors -- including some who say sweeping federal regulatory action is not strongly supported by scientific data. " It's really hard. There are people who are like, 'I can't get out of bed without this. What am I supposed to do?' " said Dr. Smart, director of advanced heart failure and cardiac transplant at the Texas Heart Institute at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital. " What I'm telling them is, if you can do without it, do without it. The less, the better. Because I do think there is a risk. " On April 7, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration -- smarting from criticism for allowing the arthritis drug Vioxx to stay on the market four years after safety concerns arose -- asked Bextra maker Pfizer to withdraw its drug. Cautionary informationAt the same time, the FDA announced it will require stronger warnings about possible risk of heart attacks and strokes on Celebrex, the only selective COX-2 inhibitor still available to consumers. In addition, it wants the makers of older non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, or NSAIDs, such as Aleve and Advil, to include prominent cautionary information. When COX-2 inhibitors came on the market, people were excited because the new pain drugs promised relief without irritating the stomach (as can aspirin) or damaging the liver (as can Tylenol in high doses). COX-2 drugs were " selective " in that they suppressed an enzyme linked to pain mediation, cyclooxygenase-2, while leaving an enzyme that protects the stomach lining, cyclooxygenase-1, alone. (Older NSAIDS naproxen and ibuprofen don't distinguish between COX-1 and COX-2 and suppress both.) As it turns out, the two enzymes balanced each other out regarding at least one important function in the body. Studies now show that Vioxx, which is the most selective about tuning down pain, inadvertently turned up the dial on clotting -- a cause of heart attacks and stroke. Research on an intravenous form of Bextra given to coronary artery bypass patients showed a similar threat, and FDA officials reasoned that risk likely extended to all Bextra users. Studies on Celebrex have been mixed, experts say. That drug is probably less risky because it's not as specific, or selective, in suppressing cyclooxygenase-1 or -2. But federal regulators want to see more long-term study data, and they want the public to be aware of potential problems with older NSAIDS as well. That stance is troubling to some physicians. " These drugs (NSAIDs) have been on the market for decades. It is highly questionable that they have significant cardiovascular effects, except perhaps in older patients, " said Houston orthopedic surgeon Dr. Watters. Dr. Marcus, a rheumatologist with Baylor College of Medicine, thinks the FDA's call for warning labels on all NSAIDS " is unwarranted by the evidence. Also, it may turn some people toward alternatives (such as herbs), which are unregulated. People don't realize they're hazardous also. ... The FDA's really unsound recommendation is based on desire to protect their rear-ends. " General internist Muntz, a team physician for the Houston Astros and the Houston Rockets who also sees older orthopedic patients, said he is taking into account his patients' risk factors for heart disease when he prescribes pain medicine. Those with normal cholesterol, who are nonsmokers and don't have a significant family history of heart trouble, " I'd be comfortable putting them on, or leaving them on the COX-2 drugs or using the COX-1s without much concern, " he said. Although some people swear by Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex, a strong psychological component may also be at work. According to , a pharmacist and a professor at the University of Houston's College of Pharmacy, large clinical trials have not shown those drugs to have more pain-relieving power than older NSAIDs such as Aleve and Advil. " There's never been anything to say they are more effective, " said. " So the big question is, where am I going to take my risk? On the stomach? Or the heart? " PAIN PILLS AT A GLANCE: Available, with strong warnings about heart and gastrointestinal risks: -- Celebrex: New-generation NSAID, possibly associated with increased risk of cardiovascular problems. FDA said benefits outweigh potential risks in properly selected patients. Drug maker Pfizer has agreed to undertake a large study of Celebrex's effects on the heart. -- Naproxen: sold as Naprosyn, Aleve and other names. Older-generation NSAID. May be mildly protective of the heart in certain patients. -- Ibuprofen: sold as Motrin, Advil and other names. Older-generation NSAID. Off the market: -- Vioxx -- Bextra Still OK: -- Acetaminophen: sold as Tylenol and other names. -- Aspirin ----- To see more of the Houston Chronicle, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.HoustonChronicle.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 I strongly disagree with the statements below. I don't care what their clinical trials showed. I know what is true for me. The first drug I took for my RA was Aleve. I started it before diagnosis, and then the rheumy told me to continue on it. It didn't really touch my pain, and also gave me a bleeding ulcer. I finally went on Bextra, which was extremely effective in relieving my pain. Several times I stopped taking it for 4-5 days to see if how I could do without it. Each time, the pain came back. I switched to salsalate, which didn't relieve the RA pain and also caused stomach pain. I went back to Bextra, but then they yanked it off the market. I'm now on Celebrex, which does a decent job of relieving the pain, but not as well as Bextra did. It seems to also be increasing my blood glucose, which is not good, since I have diabetes. There is just no comparison between the effectiveness of Bextra and the other NSAIDs that I've tried. I don't understand why they keep saying that the -2's are not more effective than the older NSAIDs. For me, they certainly are (with the exception of Vioxx). What works for one person doesn't always work for someone else. Now we have fewer choices. Sue On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, at 07:13 PM, a wrote: > Although some people swear by Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex, a strong > psychological component may also be at work. According to , > a pharmacist and a professor at the University of Houston's College of > Pharmacy, large clinical trials have not shown those drugs to have more > pain-relieving power than older NSAIDs such as Aleve and Advil. > > " There's never been anything to say they are more effective, " > said. " So the big question is, where am I going to take my risk? On the > stomach? Or the heart? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 I strongly disagree with the statements below. I don't care what their clinical trials showed. I know what is true for me. The first drug I took for my RA was Aleve. I started it before diagnosis, and then the rheumy told me to continue on it. It didn't really touch my pain, and also gave me a bleeding ulcer. I finally went on Bextra, which was extremely effective in relieving my pain. Several times I stopped taking it for 4-5 days to see if how I could do without it. Each time, the pain came back. I switched to salsalate, which didn't relieve the RA pain and also caused stomach pain. I went back to Bextra, but then they yanked it off the market. I'm now on Celebrex, which does a decent job of relieving the pain, but not as well as Bextra did. It seems to also be increasing my blood glucose, which is not good, since I have diabetes. There is just no comparison between the effectiveness of Bextra and the other NSAIDs that I've tried. I don't understand why they keep saying that the -2's are not more effective than the older NSAIDs. For me, they certainly are (with the exception of Vioxx). What works for one person doesn't always work for someone else. Now we have fewer choices. Sue On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, at 07:13 PM, a wrote: > Although some people swear by Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex, a strong > psychological component may also be at work. According to , > a pharmacist and a professor at the University of Houston's College of > Pharmacy, large clinical trials have not shown those drugs to have more > pain-relieving power than older NSAIDs such as Aleve and Advil. > > " There's never been anything to say they are more effective, " > said. " So the big question is, where am I going to take my risk? On the > stomach? Or the heart? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 You're not alone in your feelings Sue. It's terrible to find something that helps only to have it taken away. a On May 11, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Sue wrote: > I strongly disagree with the statements below. I don't care what their > clinical trials showed. I know what is true for me. The first drug I > took for my RA was Aleve. I started it before diagnosis, and then the > rheumy told me to continue on it. It didn't really touch my pain, and > also gave me a bleeding ulcer. I finally went on Bextra, which was > extremely effective in relieving my pain. Several times I stopped > taking it for 4-5 days to see if how I could do without it. Each time, > the pain came back. I switched to salsalate, which didn't relieve the > RA pain and also caused stomach pain. I went back to Bextra, but then > they yanked it off the market. I'm now on Celebrex, which does a > decent > job of relieving the pain, but not as well as Bextra did. It seems to > also be increasing my blood glucose, which is not good, since I have > diabetes. > > There is just no comparison between the effectiveness of Bextra and > the > other NSAIDs that I've tried. I don't understand why they keep saying > that the -2's are not more effective than the older NSAIDs. For me, > they certainly are (with the exception of Vioxx). What works for one > person doesn't always work for someone else. Now we have fewer > choices. > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 You're not alone in your feelings Sue. It's terrible to find something that helps only to have it taken away. a On May 11, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Sue wrote: > I strongly disagree with the statements below. I don't care what their > clinical trials showed. I know what is true for me. The first drug I > took for my RA was Aleve. I started it before diagnosis, and then the > rheumy told me to continue on it. It didn't really touch my pain, and > also gave me a bleeding ulcer. I finally went on Bextra, which was > extremely effective in relieving my pain. Several times I stopped > taking it for 4-5 days to see if how I could do without it. Each time, > the pain came back. I switched to salsalate, which didn't relieve the > RA pain and also caused stomach pain. I went back to Bextra, but then > they yanked it off the market. I'm now on Celebrex, which does a > decent > job of relieving the pain, but not as well as Bextra did. It seems to > also be increasing my blood glucose, which is not good, since I have > diabetes. > > There is just no comparison between the effectiveness of Bextra and > the > other NSAIDs that I've tried. I don't understand why they keep saying > that the -2's are not more effective than the older NSAIDs. For me, > they certainly are (with the exception of Vioxx). What works for one > person doesn't always work for someone else. Now we have fewer > choices. > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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