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>is Machine jotted this down:

>> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people

> > with Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

And DeGraf responded:

>It's bullshit.

What she said.

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At 03:53 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, Parrish S. Knight wrote:

> >is Machine jotted this down:

> >> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people

> > > with Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

>

>And DeGraf responded:

> >It's bullshit.

>

>

>What she said.

>

>--Parrish

what they said

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is Machine wrote:

> Dear list members,

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> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people with

> Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

I think it is an excuse by some people that find themselves too

prejudiced to love one of us.

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> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people

> with Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

False. Many autistic people can love.

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Parrish,

Of course, you're going to ditto what said, you guys are in

love with each other.

:-)

there is no doubt that autistics have the same emotions as

non-autistics, we are not bricks. (, feel free to quote me -

" ...we are not bricks. -Camille)

People just don't want to hear how we express it, or can't understand

how it gets expressed or how we can't support a typical relationship

---in some cases.

Camille

> >is Machine jotted this down:

> >> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people

> > > with Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

>

> And DeGraf responded:

> >It's bullshit.

>

>

> What she said.

>

> --Parrish

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> I don't have normal emotions either. Mine are the emotions of a

> child, in many ways. If Camille meant that the range of autistic

> emotion is the same range as NT emotions, I would agree with that.

> Every emotion that is found in some normal people is found in

> autistics, but not in every autistic.

That's what I'd assumed she meant.

My emotions are probably not normal either, but I don't know how to

describe them.

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Camille wrote:

>there is no doubt that autistics have the same emotions as

>non-autistics, we are not bricks.

Well....although I hate to break up this lovely consensus,

I must say that I do not seem to have exactly the same

emotions as are considered " normal. " I certainly can and

do love, but missing from my emotional repertoire is the

kind of romantic/sentimental kind of love that is the

only kind of love some people consider " great " love.

That's why being part of a couple never worked for me.

I can't generate the proper emotion, much less express

them adequately.

Jane

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jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:

>At 03:53 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, Parrish S. Knight wrote:

>

>

>>>is Machine jotted this down:

>>>

>>>

>>>> What do you aspies think about the stuff being said about people

>>>>

>>>>

>>> > with Asperger's Syndrome being unable to love anybody?

>>>

>>>

>>And DeGraf responded:

>>

>>

>>>It's bullshit.

>>>

>>>

>>What she said.

>>

>>--Parrish

>>

>>

>

>what they said

>

>-jypsy

>

>

>

What they all said!

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Hi,

I guess that all autistics can have some shade of all the emotions. I

can't imagine one that doesn't have deep fondness, even if it is for

sound or color or math. My daughter has had tiny tints of jealousy,

but only barely. I have boat loads of jealousy and have had rage and

bitterness. I've had guilt. My daughter has had guilt. She has what

looks like supremely tender affection for some people, without

strings. Jimmy my retarded autistic friend has had terrible temper

fits, he's on drugs now, probably the wrong ones, but he is a ward of

the state, basically. He says he loves me. He says he loves his

mother and kisses her (sort of) on the cheek. He get's happy and

probably sad, although I don't think he's ever told anyone.

No one can know what someone else is thinking, so I'm just guessing

that we all have the same kinds of set ups for love and hate and envy

and pride, etc.

I used to think that my ex didn't love his kids, but I think now that

he just doesn't have any way to express it in the way that is normally

expected.

Jane, are you sure that the capacity isn't there, but just the

realities of what other's expect sort of never gives it a chance to

develop? Like if you could design the perfect person (which is

impossible) don't you think you could feel romantic love for that one,

so long as there was also the right conditions.

Like maybe could be deliriously happy with someone who would

live 10 miles away and visit him whenever he decided he wanted to see

her, or only communicate by writing, or who sleeps during the day and

is up at night and who adores his cats...?

I might be able to trust a man and get into a relationship if I could

have the perfect conditions, but it's not going to happen.

This is not to put anyone on the spot and make them admit that my

theory applies to xem.

My boss and I have had some good conversations (the man with AS). He

said he has NO feelings for animals and that he makes himself pat the

dog, because it's the right thing to do. It looks stiff. Now me, I'm

all sappy over their dog. Nose to nose, hoping he'll lick my face,

talking baby talk to him.

His wife has created barriers to my boss showing love, it's like it's

never right to her (can't exactly blame her). He loves his kids. I

can see that. He has no friends, friendly acquaintences, but no friends.

Camille

> >there is no doubt that autistics have the same emotions as

> >non-autistics, we are not bricks.

>

> Well....although I hate to break up this lovely consensus,

> I must say that I do not seem to have exactly the same

> emotions as are considered " normal. " I certainly can and

> do love, but missing from my emotional repertoire is the

> kind of romantic/sentimental kind of love that is the

> only kind of love some people consider " great " love.

> That's why being part of a couple never worked for me.

> I can't generate the proper emotion, much less express

> them adequately.

>

> Jane

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