Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 celery and a *small* amount of 100% natural peanut butter and not the name brand stuff get 100% natural peanut butter since it has no sugar/syrup added to it. It is real oily. Also put out cheese trays with olives/pickles on it and peperoni but no crackers. Regards, crystal Harry or , I need some advice please. We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the Ancient One... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 this is wayne. I have tryed the lantis insulin but for some reason it put my sugar too low for a long enough time that I really do not want to try again. besides I have been insulin dependant for twenty years and this is the first time that I had any problems now laset week I also experianced low blood sugar readings so my doctor al tered my insulins slightly different and it is now coming into a jmanagable level. friends wayne wayne message for you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne, no matter what you do, or have to do, or how > you have > to > > do > > > > it, > > > > > what medications you use, keep your pre meal sugar 80 and > your two > > > hour > > > > post > > > > > meal sugar 120 or less. If you do that, I can guarantee > that your > > > > diabetic > > > > > complications will reduce and you can live a long and > productive > > life. > > > > There > > > > > is no reason Wayne for you to have to have so much torture > from > the > > > > > diabetes. You can do it Wayne, just use some of the > information we > > are > > > > > sharing with you on list. I know you have read our > information, I > > know > > > > you > > > > > know that what we are saying works, you see our blood work > and > blood > > > > sugar > > > > > results by low carbing, so please, consider doing it > Wayne. I > recall > > > > reading > > > > > a post from you that stated you would not eat like a > rabbit, > > implying > > > > that > > > > > low carbing was not for you. However Wayne, whatever you > are doing > > now > > > > is > > > > > 100% not working. You are always in/out of the hospital, > medical > > staff > > > > at > > > > > your house, you lost your leg, have had kidney problems, > your > health > > > is > > > > > quickly declining, etc. All this is a result of not using > modern > > > > techniques > > > > > and strategies to fight diabetes. There is no reason you > have to > > > > experience > > > > > this type of difficulty with your diabetes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please consider changing your ways and letting us here > help > you. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > your life we want to help you spare Wayne. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't care if no one else will be this frank with > you, I > will > > be > > > > > Wayne. I care about you and want you to live a productive > life. > I've > > > > seen > > > > > nothing but health declineing posts from you and it is > scareing > me. > > > You > > > > are > > > > > quickly heading to the grave and don't have to at all. Let > me be > > > > blunt... > > > > > stop being stubborn, you know what we are saying is true, > just > > > consider > > > > > doing it and changing Wayne. I am shooting from the hip to > you > Wayne > > > > because > > > > > I care about your health and I can see you dieing in the > next 2 > > years > > > if > > > > you > > > > > don't change immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are on older insulins that are not effective and > you need > to > > > get > > > > on > > > > > lantus and humalog to help with the carbs, learn how to > carb > count, > > > and > > > > > stop letting this diabetes rule your life, you can start > to rule > it > > > via > > > > > modern techniques and medications and reverse the onset of > the > > > > complications > > > > > you are starting to have. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your thoughts on my email to you, > I'd like > to > > > > know > > > > > what you think. Again, I'm not trying to upset you, I'm > trying to > > > offer > > > > some > > > > > friendly encouragement. I'm extremely serious when I say > within > the > > > next > > > > 2 > > > > > years you could die and I base this hunch off the onset of > > > complications > > > > you > > > > > are having simply from not controlling your blood sugars. > I am > > certain > > > > you > > > > > try Wayne, it is just the medications and strategies you > are using > > are > > > > from > > > > > 1970 and no longer are effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not get upset at me for posting this to you, > I care > > > about > > > > you. > > > > > If you don't want to get our help, that is ok I guess but > I just > > could > > > > not > > > > > sit by and see a fellow human suffering and heading > towards an > early > > > > grave > > > > > without speaking up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Fruit salad is always a nice treat. Nuts, lots of them. Apples and bananas and that all time favorite donuts. crystal > Harry or , > I need some advice please. > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School for > the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some snack > type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies for the > non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with cream > cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the Ancient > One... > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Harry since I do confuse easily please be patient with me. In my attempt to try a Dr. Atkins style diet I am keeping carbs low low low. Still when I see you suggest bananas and peanuts I shudder. My own Dr. just mentioned bananas and I don't think that is the route to go based on what I've seen on this list. Also peanuts are not nuts, but legumes. Rita > Fruit salad is always a nice treat. Nuts, lots of them. Apples and bananas > and that all time favorite donuts. > crystal > > > > Harry or , > > I need some advice please. > > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School for > > the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some snack > > type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies for the > > non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with cream > > cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the Ancient > > One... > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Okay folks, Just about the time I think I have an inkling of what is going on here I find I must have wandered off into the Ozone Layer. Doughnuts for treats? Bananas? The nuts make some sense to me. If we have doughnuts why not brownies? I obviously need a little help here. The confused Ancient One... Re: crystal Fruit salad is always a nice treat. Nuts, lots of them. Apples and bananas and that all time favorite donuts. crystal > Harry or , > I need some advice please. > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School > for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some > snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies > for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with > cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the > Ancient One... > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 you could make some deviled eggs, not very many carbs, nuts like, walnuts, almonds, pecans, etc, celery, cabbage, cheese of just about any kind, pork skins have no carbs, cucumbers, radishes, broccoli, natural peanut butter, the kind like you use to get in that box of stuff that welfare would give you each month for being poor. make some bacon and mix it up in some cream cheese and put it on celery, or use the filling for a deviled egg in the celery, cream cheese on a slice of cucumber is also good, tuna salad on celery will work, also, take some fresh veggies like bell peppers, cabbage, broccoli, garlic and onion and chop it real fine and mix with some cream cheese and add some bacon bits, makes a wonderful spread for other things like, cucumber slices, celery sticks, piece of romaine letis or ice burg letis, etc. go easy with onions how ever, onions have more carbs then you would think. most fruit is high in carbs. avocados are another low carb veggie, high in fat but not carbs. so use a avocado and other green veggies and cream cheese and make a spread for celery or cucumbers. and just pretend it is what ever you wish it to be. crystal > > > > Harry or , > > I need some advice please. > > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School for > > the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some snack > > type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies for the > > non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with cream > > cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the Ancient > > One... > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 manageable level Wayne menaing a pre meal sugar of 80 and a 2 hour post meal reading of 120 or less, right? I think not. Regards, wayne message for you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne, no matter what you do, or have to do, or how > > you have > > to > > > do > > > > > it, > > > > > > what medications you use, keep your pre meal sugar 80 and > > your two > > > > hour > > > > > post > > > > > > meal sugar 120 or less. If you do that, I can guarantee > > that your > > > > > diabetic > > > > > > complications will reduce and you can live a long and > > productive > > > life. > > > > > There > > > > > > is no reason Wayne for you to have to have so much torture > > from > > the > > > > > > diabetes. You can do it Wayne, just use some of the > > information we > > > are > > > > > > sharing with you on list. I know you have read our > > information, I > > > know > > > > > you > > > > > > know that what we are saying works, you see our blood work > > and > > blood > > > > > sugar > > > > > > results by low carbing, so please, consider doing it > > Wayne. I > > recall > > > > > reading > > > > > > a post from you that stated you would not eat like a > > rabbit, > > > implying > > > > > that > > > > > > low carbing was not for you. However Wayne, whatever you > > are doing > > > now > > > > > is > > > > > > 100% not working. You are always in/out of the hospital, > > medical > > > staff > > > > > at > > > > > > your house, you lost your leg, have had kidney problems, > > your > > health > > > > is > > > > > > quickly declining, etc. All this is a result of not using > > modern > > > > > techniques > > > > > > and strategies to fight diabetes. There is no reason you > > have to > > > > > experience > > > > > > this type of difficulty with your diabetes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please consider changing your ways and letting us here > > help > > you. > > > > It > > > > > is > > > > > > your life we want to help you spare Wayne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't care if no one else will be this frank with > > you, I > > will > > > be > > > > > > Wayne. I care about you and want you to live a productive > > life. > > I've > > > > > seen > > > > > > nothing but health declineing posts from you and it is > > scareing > > me. > > > > You > > > > > are > > > > > > quickly heading to the grave and don't have to at all. Let > > me be > > > > > blunt... > > > > > > stop being stubborn, you know what we are saying is true, > > just > > > > consider > > > > > > doing it and changing Wayne. I am shooting from the hip to > > you > > Wayne > > > > > because > > > > > > I care about your health and I can see you dieing in the > > next 2 > > > years > > > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > don't change immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are on older insulins that are not effective and > > you need > > to > > > > get > > > > > on > > > > > > lantus and humalog to help with the carbs, learn how to > > carb > > count, > > > > and > > > > > > stop letting this diabetes rule your life, you can start > > to rule > > it > > > > via > > > > > > modern techniques and medications and reverse the onset of > > the > > > > > complications > > > > > > you are starting to have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your thoughts on my email to you, > > I'd like > > to > > > > > know > > > > > > what you think. Again, I'm not trying to upset you, I'm > > trying to > > > > offer > > > > > some > > > > > > friendly encouragement. I'm extremely serious when I say > > within > > the > > > > next > > > > > 2 > > > > > > years you could die and I base this hunch off the onset of > > > > complications > > > > > you > > > > > > are having simply from not controlling your blood sugars. > > I am > > > certain > > > > > you > > > > > > try Wayne, it is just the medications and strategies you > > are using > > > are > > > > > from > > > > > > 1970 and no longer are effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not get upset at me for posting this to you, > > I care > > > > about > > > > > you. > > > > > > If you don't want to get our help, that is ok I guess but > > I just > > > could > > > > > not > > > > > > sit by and see a fellow human suffering and heading > > towards an > > early > > > > > grave > > > > > > without speaking up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think harry was drinking or something *smile*. Harry, he was asking what to feed diabetics at the event not non diabetics. I think Harry thought you were asking what to feed non diabetics. Regards, crystal > > > > Harry or , > > I need some advice please. > > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School > > for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some > > > snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies > > for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with > > cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the > > Ancient One... > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Speaking of being 67 years old, at the age I am now my great grandmother lived for forty more years. If that is to be my life, I want those years to be comfortable and as healthy and productive as I can make them. I am only 65 and have or may have much more living to do. This afternoon I am to be evaluated for some balance rehab. I am suspecting it may be related to my low potassium readings of the past 8 or 9 months. Rita > I think harry was drinking or something *smile*. Harry, he was asking what > to feed diabetics at the event not non diabetics. I think Harry thought you > were asking what to feed non diabetics. > > > Regards, > > crystal > > > > > > > Harry or , > > > I need some advice please. > > > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School > > > for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some > > > > > snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies > > > for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with > > > cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the > > > Ancient One... > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 So did I graduate in 60! Rita > Now, this makes some sense. I thought I was losing my mind. We have a > mixture of Diabetic and non Diabetic " kids " . These are the " kids " who > went to school with me and I graduated in 1960. > What about the bananas? > Thanks, The Ancient One... > > > Re: crystal > > > Are all the kids showing up for this shindig diabetic? > Donuts are for those kids who are not diabetic. > crystal > > > > > > > Harry or , > > > I need some advice please. > > > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School > > > for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with > > > some > > > > > snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some > > > brownies for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the > > > celery with cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? > > > Thanks, the Ancient One... > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hey! ancient one! I just read the E-mail which said you graduated in 1960! I graduated the same year and dont feel ancient! Bananas and donuts are not good snacks! Re: crystal Fruit salad is always a nice treat. Nuts, lots of them. Apples and bananas and that all time favorite donuts. crystal > Harry or , > I need some advice please. > We are hosting a reunion for folks who attended the Oklahoma School > for the Blind this weekend and I have been tasked to come up with some > snack type deserts for folks to munch on. We are making some brownies > for the non-diabetic types. You had earlier suggested the celery with > cream cheese. What other suggestions can you give me? Thanks, the > Ancient One... > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Congratulations!, Crystal, Lowering your glucose levels takes time and practice. It took me around three months before I mastered carb counting and medication dosing. I am on insulin injections, so I don't know if a person being on oral medications makes any difference or not on the amount of time it takes to master carb consumption and glucose level control. I do know that no matter how much time and effort it takes, it takes that amount of time to do it. Also, I equate carbohydrate withdrawal with alcohol withdrawal. Your body does not like to do without it, but once it gets use to doing without it, it feels much better. Crystal > > > Hi , Harry and all, > I have two questions. > Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. > The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated > 113. > How would one determine what is correct? > Second question. > We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? > Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of > weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 I agree Harry. I would put money down that you would not need insulin injections if you were carb counting and testing sugars. I believe you would have been fine on oral medications had you been instructed what you know today. Regards, Crystal > > > Hi , Harry and all, > I have two questions. > Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. > The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated 113. > How would one determine what is correct? > Second question. > We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? > Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of > weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 excellent! I'm so glad she is finally seeing results. BTW you will feel like you are low sugared even at 80 to 120 range since the body is so used to running high sugars. It is a common physical condition, don't recall a name, but when you get sugars under control, you will feel like you have a low blood sugar in the range of 80 to 120 since you were running the 200 range and possibly worse. However, after about 3 to 5 days, that goes away. Regards, Crystal > > > Hi , Harry and all, > I have two questions. > Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. > The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated > 113. > How would one determine what is correct? > Second question. > We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? > Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of > weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Harry, Interesting that you should use the alcohol analogy. Perhaps that is why I am so determined to see Crystal through this phase. You see, I was an acute alcoholic for more than twenty years. I consumed more than a quart of hard liquor each day and could not get out of bed in the morning without a " little boost " . Now, I do have an interesting little story about my kicking the habit. Some missionaries came over to our home in 1990 and began talking with us. Each time they came they would ask if there was anything they could do to help our house. Finally, after several months of this my wife said " Yes, there is something, could you pray for my husband who is an alcoholic? " They gave me a blessing. We talked for a moment or so afterwards and I went into the kitchen to finish the glass of wine I was consuming before they arrived. I put the glass to my lips and stopped. The contents no longer smelled or tasted good to me and I poured it out. I lost all desire for alcohol and, believe it or not, never had one minute's worth of withdrawal problems. Hmm, wonder what happened? The Ancient One... Re: Crystal Congratulations!, Crystal, Lowering your glucose levels takes time and practice. It took me around three months before I mastered carb counting and medication dosing. I am on insulin injections, so I don't know if a person being on oral medications makes any difference or not on the amount of time it takes to master carb consumption and glucose level control. I do know that no matter how much time and effort it takes, it takes that amount of time to do it. Also, I equate carbohydrate withdrawal with alcohol withdrawal. Your body does not like to do without it, but once it gets use to doing without it, it feels much better. Crystal > > > Hi , Harry and all, > I have two questions. > Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. > The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated > 113. > How would one determine what is correct? > Second question. > We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? > Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of > weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 same thing happened to a family member of mine. Interesting. Regards, Crystal > > > > > > Hi , Harry and all, > > I have two questions. > > Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. > > The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated > > 113. > > How would one determine what is correct? > > Second question. > > We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? > > Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of > > weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Good going, Crystal! Keep at it, girl! Re: Crystal each meter has about a 10% difference in testing results so that is normal really. Not certain about the oral medication, Harry can help you with that one. Glad to hear her sugars are getting under better control! Just check her sugar 2 hours past eating and if it is not 120 or less, then cut some of her carb grams back for that meal. If you get her carbs down and her sugars running 120 or less 2 hours past eating, you may not need any oral meds. Regards, Crystal Hi , Harry and all, I have two questions. Crystal has a Glucometer Elite and an Ultra One Touch. The Glucometer indicated a reading of 99 while the Ultra indicated 113. How would one determine what is correct? Second question. We (the doctor and Crystal) discussed Actos. How does it work? Crystal's readings are consistantly lower than they were a couple of weeks ago - YEA! Thanks. The Ancient One...e --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 all I can say is what are the carbs? It doesn't matter the foods you eat as long as you pay attention to the carbs. There is no reason to eat special foods as a diabetic since now you are watching carbs. Special foods meaning meal replacements for diabetics *wink* HTH Regards, a question re very low blood pressure. > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I've a friend with very low blood pressure. Her Dr. told her is > > > > was > > > > > > a question of old age. This makes me furious. I know age may > > > > certainly be one factor and a real one too, but generally speaking > > > > > and without worrying about giving medical advice, please tell what > > > > > you know about this condition in general. She is being monitored > > > > by > > > > > > a visiting home nurse who says ask your Dr. and he simply says if > > > > you pass out go to the ER. I am a friend and not a family member, > > > > > but medicine after all is a business and I think the customer has > > > > > the right > > > to > > > > some concrete answers and not a pat on the head. I am so angry. > > > > Rita BTW, she will not change Dr.s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 , Yes you are saying this to harp on us. (smile) If you didn't harp we probably wouldn't listen. (just like my kids) Crystal is doing well at church camp this week and I am really glad to see that. She had a 68 this morning and that is GREAT... It is great because she is continuing her regiment without my prodding - YEA!! Thanks, the Ancient One... Re: Crystal ya, the meter is the best weapon in this battle so keep on keeping on. you guys are doing great. Just cut back carbs to get her 120 or less in the afternoons. Have you limited her meals to a set amount of carbs? I.E breakfast/lunch/dinner 30 grams each for a total of 90 grams a day? Or, for example, 15 grams per meal breakfast/lunch/dinner for a total of 45 grams a day etc. If you get those constants in place, those constants will help you iron out those high afternoon readings etc. The more constants you can get in place, the easier it is to get that sugar in target range. I'm not sharing this to harp on ya, you guys are doing great! This is just suggestive advice is all. Regards, My input > > > Hello, My name is Pm. I have been type II for a number of years > and didn't > know it for awhile before I past out several times, etc. I tried > several > oral medications but am now just taking Actos and Glucatrol when I > need it. > I think I take care of this disease quite well. I can tell when my > sugar > begins to drop low because I will became weak and shaky and know > when it is > hi because I start itching and feel pretty bad too! I love my new > meter > Accucheck with Voicemate. It agree with the listener who that was > kind > enough to write me back and tell me she likes it too! I don't think > I'd go > back. Lifescan served me well for many years but I got tired of the > thing > saying not enough blood and this one is much easier to set, etc. > Hope I > have helped some one! Have a very nice day and may God bless all of > you and > bring you peace that passes all understanding and may his glorious > light > shine upon you and may He give you peace! Pam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 , Bacon, sausage or ham does not have any carbs. Carbs are found in most white foods, anything made with flour even it it is not white and is found in some vegetables. I can send you a list of carbs as an attachment to your private e-mail if you would like. Re: Crystal Ancient one, can you give us an example of a good, low or no-carb meal? For example, for breakfast do you cut out all meat such as sausage or bacon or ham? Thanks, cv Crystal > > > > > > > Hey All! > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back on > > > the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly consistent > > > in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one of the > > > Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon blood > > > sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. > > > Well, I guess youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, > > > about two or so months? > > > When we started Crystal was running in the high 400s and now look > where > > > we are. > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! > > > The Ancient One... > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Wow! What great news about Crystal! Keep at it girl! Crystal Hey All! Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high 400s and now look where we are. Count them carbs! It really does work! The Ancient One... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hey , So fruit is pretty much a no-no? I like to eat a lot of fresh fruit in the summer such as watermelon, muskmelon, strawberries, and so on. Will I need to cut them from my diet or try and figure them in as carbs? LyndaAt 10:31 PM 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >and one more... how about a lunch example... > >bad lunch > >2 slices of bread 30 grams >ham and cheese and mustard for the bread 0 grams >1 medium apple 30 grams >1 small bag of chips 30 grams > >total carbs 90 hello high sugar! now lets re-work this itno a low carb >alternative > >eat the sandwhich open faced and only 1 slice of bread 15 grams > >pitch the apple and eat sugar free jello 0 grams > >pitch the potato chips and eat pork rines which have 0 grams > > >total carbs for this meal 15 grams hello good sugar! > >Regards, > > Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All! > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back >on > > > > > > > the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly >consistent > > > > > > > in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one of the > > > > > > > Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon blood > > > > > > > sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. > > > > > > > Well, I guess youall were correct. We have been doing this for > > what, > > > > > > > about two or so months? > > > > > > > When we started Crystal was running in the high 400s and now >look > > > > > where > > > > > > > we are. > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! > > > > > > > The Ancient One... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 I don't eat fruit nor fruit juice. You can get all the same exact nutrients from vegetables as you do from fruit. And I am not kidding that is medical fact. Fruit and fruit juice is deadly. If you can, or are up to it, I say cut them. In 1 medium apple it is 30 grams of carbs, 1 cup of any cut up melon is 30 grams of carbs, etc. very very potent. In addition to this, they are very difficult to accurately measure since apples, melon, etc. are all different shapes and density. I suppose you could eat some fruit if you want but it would average about 30 grams of carbs, based on what you eat and how much you eat, which is half your meal. If you want to eat some fruit, let me know what kind and I can look at some carb grams on calorieking.com for you or the USDA database. Also check out dean's carb list as well. Like I said, main thing is fruit is very high carb and very difficult to measure carb grams. Think of strawberries. All differently shaped etc. Yes, if you can accurately come up with a way to measure the fruit you could in theory count it as carbs in your diet and cover it with H. I just don't fool with it since I can get all the nutrients from veggies and they really can spike your sugar and so forth. Regards, Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All! > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back > >on > > > > > > > > the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly > >consistent > > > > > > > > in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one of the > > > > > > > > Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon blood > > > > > > > > sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. > > > > > > > > Well, I guess youall were correct. We have been doing this for > > > what, > > > > > > > > about two or so months? > > > > > > > > When we started Crystal was running in the high 400s and now > >look > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > we are. > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! > > > > > > > > The Ancient One... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Fruits and fruit juices are on the no no list for diabetics.This includes all mellons, too. I eat a couple of strawberries cut up on my salad to add some different flavor, but that is about it for me as far as fruits are concerned. I avoid them mostly. If the food is white it is also a no no. This includes milk and potatoes. Count those carbs. If you like I can send you the carb counting guide file. Re: Crystal > Hey , > > So fruit is pretty much a no-no? I like to eat a lot of fresh fruit in the > summer such as watermelon, muskmelon, strawberries, and so on. Will I need > to cut them from my diet or try and figure them in as carbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Lynda, Well, Great Value frozen strawberries have 12 carbs in 3/4 cup. I don't think we have a counter large enough to hold the number of carbs in a ripe, delicious, sweet, cold and crisp piece of watermelon. Could we interest you in some tasty cauliflower? What if it were dipped in some Jalapeno cheese dip? Cy, the Ancient One... Re: Crystal Hey , So fruit is pretty much a no-no? I like to eat a lot of fresh fruit in the summer such as watermelon, muskmelon, strawberries, and so on. Will I need to cut them from my diet or try and figure them in as carbs? LyndaAt 10:31 PM 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >and one more... how about a lunch example... > >bad lunch > >2 slices of bread 30 grams >ham and cheese and mustard for the bread 0 grams >1 medium apple 30 grams >1 small bag of chips 30 grams > >total carbs 90 hello high sugar! now lets re-work this itno a low carb >alternative > >eat the sandwhich open faced and only 1 slice of bread 15 grams > >pitch the apple and eat sugar free jello 0 grams > >pitch the potato chips and eat pork rines which have 0 grams > > >total carbs for this meal 15 grams hello good sugar! > >Regards, > > Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All! > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem > > > > > > > - low blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start > > > > > > > cutting back >on > > > > > > > the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly >consistent > > > > > > > in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one of the > > > > > > > Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I > > > > > > > guess youall were correct. We have been doing this for > > what, > > > > > > > about two or so months? > > > > > > > When we started Crystal was running in the high 400s and > > > > > > > now >look > > > > > where > > > > > > > we are. > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! > > > > > > > The Ancient One... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 5/22/2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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