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I know it is going to be that way when I apply that is one reason I haven't

already. My summer and fall was absolutely terrible. I am better at this time.

But still have to have my pain pills to get up and moving in the mornings. I am

so stiff and hurting when I wake up. I hate having coffee and a Percocet for

breakfast but at this point it is the only choice I have.

As I said before, my daughter has Down Syndrome. I have spent all my energy

begging for funds for her. she has finally been approved. But guess what? They

are out of money. Have to wait til more money is approved. :( We really got a

system going here in the good ole USA..........

I have know quite a few people that were terminally ill and there SSD be

approved the month after they die.

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- Hi all,

I'm struggling with this one too. I was denied the first time

too, I have yet to find someone I can count on to handle this. That

was good advice, doing it by yourself, those people are heartless. I

wish there were something set up to retrain those of us who might

still be productive if given the chance. Some states have vocational

rehab, but the hoops are almost as bad as disability.

When my career came to a halt we lost our butts. First my

insurance dropped me. It seems if you actually USE the health

insurance then you are a risk..go figure you might just need to use

it instead of just having to make the fat payments every month. We

lost everything except what we could carry. We had a nice new custom

home in Wyoming, a couple of nice trucks, mostly just a nice home

we'd worked hard for. We had to learn how to live on less than one

half of what we were used to. Thank God my wife has a career. We

took out tax return, sold our home, and bought a fixer upper with

down out of pocket. We refused to go back to a rental, we'd worked

too hard for too many years. We were able to roll that over and buy

this old farmstead. Still, the SS office could give a rat's a$$ if

we were on the street or not. This is America, we're not supposed to

have to live like that. You work hard your whole life, pay your

taxes, and for what? So they can tell me I don't qualify and then

send our tax dollars to Africa to educate folks over there to stop

screwing themselves to death (hiv) and to move where the food is. Or

they send the money someplace else where nobody has paid in a dime,

and hates America anyway. Wouldn't it be nice just once to be

treated like one of the good guys? Like hey, you've paid your dues,

you are an American, you want to BE an American, not just a resident

who wants access to our SSI, and welfare. Ok, I'll get off my soap

box now.

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Hi ,

First off, have you contacted an attorney? There is no cost out of pocket for a

SS attorney. They get a set limit and are paid by SS out of your back pay

settlement after the benefits are approved. I've never known anyone who got an

attorney who didn't win. SS wants you to dance. They want to see if you are

" really " disabled and they find this out by seeing how long you'll fight for

what is yours. Take the weight off your shoulders and call an attorney today!

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2 yrs to

get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

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- Hi all,

I'm struggling with this one too. I was denied the first time

too, I have yet to find someone I can count on to handle this. That

was good advice, doing it by yourself, those people are heartless. I

wish there were something set up to retrain those of us who might

still be productive if given the chance. Some states have vocational

rehab, but the hoops are almost as bad as disability.

When my career came to a halt we lost our butts. First my

insurance dropped me. It seems if you actually USE the health

insurance then you are a risk..go figure you might just need to use

it instead of just having to make the fat payments every month. We

lost everything except what we could carry. We had a nice new custom

home in Wyoming, a couple of nice trucks, mostly just a nice home

we'd worked hard for. We had to learn how to live on less than one

half of what we were used to. Thank God my wife has a career. We

took out tax return, sold our home, and bought a fixer upper with

down out of pocket. We refused to go back to a rental, we'd worked

too hard for too many years. We were able to roll that over and buy

this old farmstead. Still, the SS office could give a rat's a$$ if

we were on the street or not. This is America, we're not supposed to

have to live like that. You work hard your whole life, pay your

taxes, and for what? So they can tell me I don't qualify and then

send our tax dollars to Africa to educate folks over there to stop

screwing themselves to death (hiv) and to move where the food is. Or

they send the money someplace else where nobody has paid in a dime,

and hates America anyway. Wouldn't it be nice just once to be

treated like one of the good guys? Like hey, you've paid your dues,

you are an American, you want to BE an American, not just a resident

who wants access to our SSI, and welfare. Ok, I'll get off my soap

box now.

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The same exact thing happened to me, except my " advocate " was an attorney! Took

me 2 yrs and at the hearing level as well.

~Tommie

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I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

security where you get the forms.

I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

life.

You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

Service may know of someone who will do this. The

advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

are lawyers.

You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

disability advocate who does just that. Disability

and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

me thru the emotional aspect of this.

Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

your head under your arm go down fast without one of

these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

want to start by getting your medical records together

while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

discounted me for that.

Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

will be there with you.

It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

helpful, you can win this.

*¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

~StrykerMom~

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--- Mama Hubbard wrote:

> My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> Social Security

> Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> and what to do?

> I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> teeth.

> Jena

>

>

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Jena,

My son has Bipolar, Asthma and GERD. The reflux disorder! lol And he is being

tested for some other things to figure out what is causing his relentless

fatigue. He's being tested for Diabetes, Epstein Barr Virus, Mono and

Hypothyroidism. We think he could even have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I hope he

has none of it, or it is something that is curable or manageable. Don't want

Diabetes for him. I have it and it's no fun. Not to mention it's the silent

killing. We can deal with anything else although I want him to just be healthy.

~Tommie

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In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:58:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tommie_jones@... writes:

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2

yrs to get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

Oh how I wish I could get SSDI it sure would make life easier here...I did

read all the mails I have some sort of virus and its causing me a lot of

nausea which messes with my diabetes and my heart ads to the nausea...UGH I

would

rather have a broken foot then nausea it makes me feel so weak and ukkyi had

to go to the high school concert last night and I came home and slept 9

hours usually I sleep about 4 very late at night...I stayed home and raised

kids

we didn't want a sitter then I raised our granddaughter from her first breath

I thought I would go to work when she went to Jr high well I had my heart

attack/heart surgery when she was in 6th grade and there went my work history

so I cant even apply for SSD ..I could for ssi but that goes by household

income and my husband must work two jobs for all the medical bills and they

don't

consider what U pay ...I guess U mostly know the feeling it just seems worse

this time of year.

God bless and keep you all

Rose

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so true Jena, it's very sad.

~Tommie

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In a message dated 12/14/2006 9:39:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mamahubbard@... writes:

I ask the man that interviewed me just what were we suppose to do and he

told me to divorce my husband and live with him and my daughter would be

eligible for everything. What has our country gone to.!!!!!

I do have a cousin that worked some but never paid anything in. Guess you

could say he got paid under the table. And it took awhile but he is drawing a

small amount something like $400.00 a month. but he got Medicaid or Medicare

one for her health care.

Jena

I've been told that also Jena get divorced and you can get SSI until you

are 62 then you can apply against his SSRI and U can get medicaid until then

also then get medicare how sad is that

Rose

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I hope your judge wasn't as grumpy as mine. Just

before we went into the room where the judge

was....and I was terrified.....my advocate

said... " He's being an A** H*** today " . Just what I

needed. She told me how to behave and what not. He

did rattle me once and I forgot what I was

saying...and just said... " I don't know what you want

me to say. " I caught a sideways grin off of him.

Guess he figured I wasn't too coached. I won it..but

the wait for the verdict is a killer. *shudder*

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then ye picks yer target! "

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--- Tommie wrote:

> The same exact thing happened to me, except my

> " advocate " was an attorney! Took me 2 yrs and at the

> hearing level as well.

> ~Tommie

>

> Re: Social Security

>

>

> I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard

> but I

> knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> security where you get the forms.

>

> I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of

> my

> life.

>

> You do not pay them till you are paid. You get

> back

> pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for

> this

> and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

>

> First gave my kids a little vacation for holding

> down

> the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try

> to

> work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

>

> I advise you to start out looking for such an

> advocate

> who does all the paper work, stand up in front of

> the

> judge for you and all in all take you step by

> step.

> You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make

> darn

> sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> are lawyers.

>

> You can try something like Binder and Binder or

> find a

> disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there

> for

> me thru the emotional aspect of this.

>

> Your chances of winning disability unless you

> carry

> your head under your arm go down fast without one

> of

> these people. So do yourself a favor and start

> there

> and let them do the forms. Have some doctors

> opinions

> from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> want to start by getting your medical records

> together

> while you shop for your disability

> advocate/lawyer.

>

> I hope you find one that was as supportive and

> helpful

> as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> discounted me for that.

>

> Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just

> keep

> it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't

> stop

> at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> judge like I did, then you just do it. Your

> advocate

> will be there with you.

>

> It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers

> tend

> to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor

> is

> helpful, you can win this.

>

> *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

>

> ~StrykerMom~

>

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- Mama Hubbard

> wrote:

>

> > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply

> for

> > Social Security

> > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About

> how

> > and what to do?

> > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling

> eye

> > teeth.

> > Jena

> >

> >

>

> Lotacats >^.^<

> http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/549000

>

>

>

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Thanks Don, I learned all about those telephone interviews with my daughter.

I am going to talk with my Dr. at my next appt. We have several lawyers around

here that do nothing by SSD. My Mama got it the first go around. From what I

have heard she was very lucky.

Jena

Jena

~:~Jena~:~

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Jena, Here is one thing I know something about! First off you are going to

have to be patient because it will take some time but just don't give up!If

you have a disability situation they will send you to a social security

doctor who very often will turn you down forcing you to get written

documentationof your condition from your own doctor to submit at your

disability hearing.If you don't have a disability I'm not sure of what steps

you have to go through.In either case I think you will find that the people

at your local social security office are very kind and helpful if you go see

them in person .Forget about trying to get info over the phone if possible ,

The routine you have to go through to talk to the right person is so time

consuming you may as well just figure it is going to take at least acouple

of hours but is much faster in the long run. Lastly and this is very

important, ask around and get a good social securityattorney to help you

Don't just pick one out of the phone book if possible and also get one who

deal s largely in social security claims Don't just use the family attorney

say for example one who slso handles divorce cases or corporate law.Also the

right attorney absolutely gets no money up front!they get paid at the end

and ther e are stadardized fees yhat they charge that are paid only when

andi f you are all done.Try not to get discouraged if it takes some time

because you get paid retro actively from when you first applied an

dgenerally speaking you get a nice lump sum acouple of months after the

decision is made in your favor.Of course everybody has a different set of

circumstances but your attorney will explain it all to you step by step . I

hope this helps you get your benefits Good luck. Don in Michigan.

>

> I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

> knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> security where you get the forms.

>

> I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

> life.

>

> You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

> pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

> and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

> First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

> the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

> work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

>

> I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

> who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

> judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

> You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

> sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> are lawyers.

>

> You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

> disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

> me thru the emotional aspect of this.

>

> Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

> your head under your arm go down fast without one of

> these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

> and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

> from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> want to start by getting your medical records together

> while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

>

> I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

> as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> discounted me for that.

>

> Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

> it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

> at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

> will be there with you.

>

> It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

> to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

> helpful, you can win this.

>

> *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

>

> ~StrykerMom~

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- Mama Hubbard <mamahubbard@... <mamahubbard%40bellsouth.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> > Social Security

> > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> > and what to do?

> > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> > teeth.

> > Jena

> >

> >

>

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What SS office has told me is that once you apply you have to wait

six months before benefits start. You have to wait two years before

you can get medicare. I was on disabliity leave for six months and

when the Dr.s said that my disablity would last longer than a year,

then I went in and applied for benefits. That was a year ago. I'm

currently waiting for a hearing. If I win at my hearing, and the

judge decides to retro my benefits, then they would go back to June

2006. If the Judge decides not to retro my benefits,then they start

the month after his decision. If that happens, then the lawyers

and/or advocates don't get paid. They only get paid if your

benefits are retro. That is what my SS office has told me.

Hugs

Diane - Minnesota

> >

> > > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> > > Social Security

> > > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> > > and what to do?

> > > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> > > teeth.

> > > Jena

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Lotacats >^.^<

> > http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/549000

> >

> > __________________________________________________________

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> > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

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so how did you do it other than just internet. What is your disability?

Jena

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I had no trouble at all getting my ssdi but it only paid back payfor 6

mon.,not from the time time you were disabled,I don't know I guess if you have a

lawyer you get more but it takes more time so I just took mine and was very

thankful I got it so quick. I did everything over the internet and I had a copy

of all my medical records,but did'nt have to use them,in fact my back pay was

deposited about 2 wks before I knew I had been approved. Wishing you the best of

luck. Thanks

Don Goble wrote: Jena, Here is one thing I know something

about! First off you are going to

have to be patient because it will take some time but just don't give up!If

you have a disability situation they will send you to a social security

doctor who very often will turn you down forcing you to get written

documentationof your condition from your own doctor to submit at your

disability hearing.If you don't have a disability I'm not sure of what steps

you have to go through.In either case I think you will find that the people

at your local social security office are very kind and helpful if you go see

them in person .Forget about trying to get info over the phone if possible ,

The routine you have to go through to talk to the right person is so time

consuming you may as well just figure it is going to take at least acouple

of hours but is much faster in the long run. Lastly and this is very

important, ask around and get a good social securityattorney to help you

Don't just pick one out of the phone book if possible and also get one who

deal s largely in social security claims Don't just use the family attorney

say for example one who slso handles divorce cases or corporate law.Also the

right attorney absolutely gets no money up front!they get paid at the end

and ther e are stadardized fees yhat they charge that are paid only when

andi f you are all done.Try not to get discouraged if it takes some time

because you get paid retro actively from when you first applied an

dgenerally speaking you get a nice lump sum acouple of months after the

decision is made in your favor.Of course everybody has a different set of

circumstances but your attorney will explain it all to you step by step . I

hope this helps you get your benefits Good luck. Don in Michigan.

>

> I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

> knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> security where you get the forms.

>

> I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

> life.

>

> You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

> pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

> and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

> First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

> the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

> work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

>

> I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

> who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

> judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

> You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

> sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> are lawyers.

>

> You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

> disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

> me thru the emotional aspect of this.

>

> Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

> your head under your arm go down fast without one of

> these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

> and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

> from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> want to start by getting your medical records together

> while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

>

> I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

> as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> discounted me for that.

>

> Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

> it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

> at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

> will be there with you.

>

> It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

> to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

> helpful, you can win this.

>

> *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

>

> ~StrykerMom~

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- Mama Hubbard >

> wrote:

>

> > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> > Social Security

> > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> > and what to do?

> > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> > teeth.

> > Jena

> >

> >

>

> Lotacats >^.^<

> http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/549000

>

> __________________________________________________________

> Yahoo! Music Unlimited

> Access over 1 million songs.

> http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

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I filed mine online but after that my friend helped me handle getting the right

kind of papers filled out and all. It took me a total of 3 years and 4 months. I

got back pay though it came in handy in fixing my floors in my home. And I payed

all all my bills and got my teeth fixed with it. It is a hard battle for some

and for others it is not.

Hugs, Babs

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