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In a message dated 12/8/99 3:45:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

chestnutt@... writes:

<< why is it you feel you can AFFORD to have an attidude.? A bit cocky in

my opinion. >>

I am cocky, and I have every right to be. I have looks, success, and

intelligence. I am well loved by my peers and well respected. I don't believe

in false modesty.

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and you must have a LOT of time on your hands! Do you have any friends

inwhich you could talk to and leave this list to people that care for

one another?

I haven't said a word before but this is to much.

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In a message dated 12/8/99 10:49:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,

kyoxall@... writes:

<< and you must have a LOT of time on your hands! Do you have any friends

inwhich you could talk to and leave this list to people that care for

one another?

I haven't said a word before but this is to much. >>

Actually I don't have a lot of time, but I always enjoy a good debate, it

gets the blood pumping:)

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In a message dated 12/8/99 10:49:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,

kyoxall@... writes:

<< I haven't said a word before but this is to much >>

Oh, and it's 'too' honey, learn proper grammar.

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In a message dated 12/9/99 8:35:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,

His_pansy@... writes:

<< imput. http://www.troma.com >>

Input my friend, and yes, we had a part in some movies, so what...jealous?

There's nothing wrong with expecting people to have good language skills.

Joyce at least is relatively well spoken, I have to give her that much

credit. As for many of the rest of you, I would recommend some additional

schooling.

<<Mabee a GODASS

Yes i truely think so. You have IRRIATED>>

I mean, come on....if you can't even spell 'truly', 'maybe' or 'irritated' I

seriously must question your mental capacity.

-MicHeLLe

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In a message dated 12/25/99 11:37:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kikipuppy@... writes:

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YES. Thank you. I just joined quite a few of the lists she was on, and

hesitated to post, almost left. I am happy to hear the lists can get to

work. Are these lists all moderated by the same folks? >>

You can't ban me, I didn't break any rules. My lifestyle was the one which

was insulted. Ban me again and there will be legal issues. Now it is the

priciple of the thing.

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In a message dated 12/25/99 11:37:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kikipuppy@... writes:

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YES. Thank you. I just joined quite a few of the lists she was on, and

hesitated to post, almost left. I am happy to hear the lists can get to

work. Are these lists all moderated by the same folks? >>

By the way, this is a lie. The only other list I am on is the allergy list.

Get your facts straight.

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In a message dated 12/25/99 11:37:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kikipuppy@... writes:

<< YES. Thank you. I just joined quite a few of the lists she was on, and

hesitated to post, almost left. I am happy to hear the lists can get to

work. Are these lists all moderated by the same folks? >>

People need to dramatize things obviously

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In a message dated 12/26/99 1:28:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kikipuppy@... writes:

<< Is everyone on this list to fight or to get healthy? >>

I don't appreciate being lied about or slandered. i have just as much of a

right to be here as anyone. I'm perfectly willing to be civil but I am NOT

going to be insulted. I took the time out to wish everyone a good holiday in

hopes that everyone would chill out. In return I get booted. Very open minded

of you all. No, I don't look like you....I am not one of you. I have the guts

to express myself and be different. I shared my web site knowing full well

some of you would take it as an opportunity to insult me personally, but the

fact is, I am secure enough with myself to do so. None of you have shared

anything, you hide behind computer screens because it is safe.....I know you

only through your ugly words. Intolerance is a sad, sad part of life

unfortunately. All great thinkers throughout history have been persecuted for

being radical, and are often only appreciated in retrospect. I am happy with

my path....I do what I love. I successfully have dealt wth Candida for years

and I am healthy, in shape, and happy. I joined this list to talk to others

who maintain a healthy lifestyle in regards to this problem, and instead I

get sermons and insults, salesmen and close-minded people. Remember, I have

maintained my health for 10 years now in spite of this problem. If you would

all rather just hope and pray it will go away instead of listening to someone

who lived it, that is your decision. Personally, I think it's rather silly

and short sighted to throw an opportunity to learn away just beause you feel

the need to push religion on others. I didn't come in here preaching everyone

to get a tattoo, why should I have to be preached to about jesus. You can't

fault my logic here.

-MicHeLLe

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Thank you Mark. Myra

MicHELLe

From: " Mark Fonda " <markfonda@...>

MicHELLe (DarlingDemoniac, FemDomSoc) has been banned from the list for

repeatedly breaking netiquette rule #3:

Language and Flaming - Posting extremely foul or abusive language aimed at a

fellow list member is forbidden. This includes obscenities, verbal

harassment or comments that would prove offensive based on race, religion,

sex, age or sexual orientation..

Have a great holiday season!

Regards,

Mark (co-moderator)

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YES. Thank you. I just joined quite a few of the lists she was on, and

hesitated to post, almost left. I am happy to hear the lists can get to

work. Are these lists all moderated by the same folks?

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> From: " Mark Fonda " <markfonda@...>

>

> MicHELLe (DarlingDemoniac, FemDomSoc) has been banned from the list for

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Isn't great to have a doctor that truly listens to you. I have only been

with my rhuematologist for 2 years but he has made all the difference.

Joe in Arizona

[ ] MY joint/muscle/tenderpoint pain and treatment

> I have been with the same wonderful rheumatologist for over ten years now.

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I figured you weren't suggesting I had it, but dang, if the ear

issues don't sound familiar!

You know, I've been telling people I'm not doing so badly, that

whatever I've got isn't interfering that much in my life, and I'm

not really hurting that bad. I actually feel guilty sometimes when

people are discussing how much pain they are in, and how badly they

feel.

My husband and I go to a counsellor every two weeks. Partly to work

around my ADD (which is pretty darn bad in itself), and partly

because we have some issues that we feel can be cleared up pretty

easily with some counselling. In any case, I had told her how my

husband treats me like I'm being a baby, or worse, faking it for

attention (like I want that kind of attention), and she asked me

what problems, specifically, I was having in terms of pain,

mobility, fatigue, etc. I started ticking off the list...how I'm

really hurting for days after a walk around the block, how I try to

find ways NOT to pick up our 17-month-old, how I'm ready for a nap

by 10 am, even if I slept all night (which is rare), how I can't

ride the horses anymore, and that even sitting in the saddle hurts,

how I'm afraid that even if I could get on a horse (which on bad

days is doubtful), I'm afraid I couldn't get off, how stiff my hands

and wrists can be in the morning, etc. etc. etc., and I

realized...this is affecting me SO much more than I even imagined!

I've been living with this pain for so long, and the stiffness, and

it has come on so slowly, I don't even recognize how bad it actually

is. I'm not rolling on the floor in agony, but I'm uncomfortable

90% of the time, and when you have to take 800mg of Motrin at least

once a day almost daily, and lately the 800mg Motrin PLUS 500 mg

vicodin to kill enough of the discomfort to sleep at night (and the

last two nights it didn't go away completely, even with that),

something is seriously wrong.

We are also under stress because my husband isn't making enough to

pay the mortgage, and I'm terrified to start working again...I

honestly don't know if I can handle a full time job, right now.

At this point, I just want a rheumatologist...someone who

specializes in this kind of thing...to acknowledge that something is

wrong, and will help to work with me and figure out what it is. I'm

grateful to my gp...she's sure there is something going on (I think

she saw the quality of life issues before I did), and is keeping me

hopeful. I don't know what I'd do without her.

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> > Hmmmm....the ears sound a lot like what I have, but I don't

think I

> > have dry eyes. Dry mouth...oh yeah, especially at night, but

I've

> > attributed that to the plethora of medications I'm on, now. I've

> > got ADD, HT, arrhythmia, etc. etc. Add to that the vicodin and

> > ibuprophen I'm practically taking like candy at this

point....yikes.

> >

> > Well, I see Dr. Jerk in two weeks, and a little over a week after

> > that I get to see a rheumy who is supposedly one of the best. He

> > specializes in lupus, but I figure if he can't figure out what's

> > going on, or refer me to someone who can, no one can.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I figured you weren't suggesting I had it, but dang, if the ear

issues don't sound familiar!

You know, I've been telling people I'm not doing so badly, that

whatever I've got isn't interfering that much in my life, and I'm

not really hurting that bad. I actually feel guilty sometimes when

people are discussing how much pain they are in, and how badly they

feel.

My husband and I go to a counsellor every two weeks. Partly to work

around my ADD (which is pretty darn bad in itself), and partly

because we have some issues that we feel can be cleared up pretty

easily with some counselling. In any case, I had told her how my

husband treats me like I'm being a baby, or worse, faking it for

attention (like I want that kind of attention), and she asked me

what problems, specifically, I was having in terms of pain,

mobility, fatigue, etc. I started ticking off the list...how I'm

really hurting for days after a walk around the block, how I try to

find ways NOT to pick up our 17-month-old, how I'm ready for a nap

by 10 am, even if I slept all night (which is rare), how I can't

ride the horses anymore, and that even sitting in the saddle hurts,

how I'm afraid that even if I could get on a horse (which on bad

days is doubtful), I'm afraid I couldn't get off, how stiff my hands

and wrists can be in the morning, etc. etc. etc., and I

realized...this is affecting me SO much more than I even imagined!

I've been living with this pain for so long, and the stiffness, and

it has come on so slowly, I don't even recognize how bad it actually

is. I'm not rolling on the floor in agony, but I'm uncomfortable

90% of the time, and when you have to take 800mg of Motrin at least

once a day almost daily, and lately the 800mg Motrin PLUS 500 mg

vicodin to kill enough of the discomfort to sleep at night (and the

last two nights it didn't go away completely, even with that),

something is seriously wrong.

We are also under stress because my husband isn't making enough to

pay the mortgage, and I'm terrified to start working again...I

honestly don't know if I can handle a full time job, right now.

At this point, I just want a rheumatologist...someone who

specializes in this kind of thing...to acknowledge that something is

wrong, and will help to work with me and figure out what it is. I'm

grateful to my gp...she's sure there is something going on (I think

she saw the quality of life issues before I did), and is keeping me

hopeful. I don't know what I'd do without her.

>

> >

> >

> > Hmmmm....the ears sound a lot like what I have, but I don't

think I

> > have dry eyes. Dry mouth...oh yeah, especially at night, but

I've

> > attributed that to the plethora of medications I'm on, now. I've

> > got ADD, HT, arrhythmia, etc. etc. Add to that the vicodin and

> > ibuprophen I'm practically taking like candy at this

point....yikes.

> >

> > Well, I see Dr. Jerk in two weeks, and a little over a week after

> > that I get to see a rheumy who is supposedly one of the best. He

> > specializes in lupus, but I figure if he can't figure out what's

> > going on, or refer me to someone who can, no one can.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Wow, , that IS a lot to have to go through. The stress of

life is hard enough. Then to throw this on top of it all, it's down

right back breaking. Then, when your family makes accusations like

that, well, that's just out right HEART breaking. My family did the

same thing, though not to the extent. Then, when they saw how much

I was falling apart in front of their eyes, in spite of my trying to

put on a strong front, they realized something was very very wrong.

Until I looked back and evaluated my life before and after RA, I

wasn't aware to the extent that it affected my life. I had to take

stock of where I am and where I want to be. I know I have to take

pauses through out the day, but I just incorporated that into my

daily functions, when possible. You are not being a baby over

this. Never, NEVER let anyone tell you otherwise.

I understand where you are coming from with the working, too. I

haven't given up my full time job, yet. I take off as many days as

I can when we are not busy. That is the only reason I have been

able to continue. When I have time off, I think about how much

sense it makes to stop working, but I can't afford it. Too many

debts to pay off. So that stress doesn't help either. I know what

it's like to not know if you will be able to make the mortgage

payment. That is an additional stress we don't need in our lives.

I hope things get better for you soon. I will keep you in my

prayers along with your family. Keep us up to date on your

appointments, ok?....Marina

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Wow, , that IS a lot to have to go through. The stress of

life is hard enough. Then to throw this on top of it all, it's down

right back breaking. Then, when your family makes accusations like

that, well, that's just out right HEART breaking. My family did the

same thing, though not to the extent. Then, when they saw how much

I was falling apart in front of their eyes, in spite of my trying to

put on a strong front, they realized something was very very wrong.

Until I looked back and evaluated my life before and after RA, I

wasn't aware to the extent that it affected my life. I had to take

stock of where I am and where I want to be. I know I have to take

pauses through out the day, but I just incorporated that into my

daily functions, when possible. You are not being a baby over

this. Never, NEVER let anyone tell you otherwise.

I understand where you are coming from with the working, too. I

haven't given up my full time job, yet. I take off as many days as

I can when we are not busy. That is the only reason I have been

able to continue. When I have time off, I think about how much

sense it makes to stop working, but I can't afford it. Too many

debts to pay off. So that stress doesn't help either. I know what

it's like to not know if you will be able to make the mortgage

payment. That is an additional stress we don't need in our lives.

I hope things get better for you soon. I will keep you in my

prayers along with your family. Keep us up to date on your

appointments, ok?....Marina

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I am so sorry that all this is happening to you! I will pray for you

and I'm hoping that the spinal tap will give some conclusive

answers!!! My Neurologist here is pathetic(not even board certified)

My Neurologist in Wyoming is a Godsend!!!! You are definitely with

the right doc it sounds like! I am so sorry about the mom vs. hubby

situation though, that surely doesn't help you in that regard. I

often think why oh why can't we all just get along? I sure hope that

this all can get resolved for you really really soon! Hang in there

and know that we are all here and pulling for you!!!! Take care and

God Bless!!!! XXX's Kim

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I am so sorry that all this is happening to you! I will pray for you

and I'm hoping that the spinal tap will give some conclusive

answers!!! My Neurologist here is pathetic(not even board certified)

My Neurologist in Wyoming is a Godsend!!!! You are definitely with

the right doc it sounds like! I am so sorry about the mom vs. hubby

situation though, that surely doesn't help you in that regard. I

often think why oh why can't we all just get along? I sure hope that

this all can get resolved for you really really soon! Hang in there

and know that we are all here and pulling for you!!!! Take care and

God Bless!!!! XXX's Kim

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