Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 One thing about the hinge: I've never seen one like this one a door or window. I don't know what it's called but there are interlacing 'loops' from one end to the other with a narrow pin or wire running through them. Might it be a piano hinge? piano hinge n. A long narrow hinge with a pin running the entire length of its joint. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Blissings, Sam Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Re: 's dream symbol Is this the coin? http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=102619313 & size=m N: I guess . . . which is to say it's the correct disign. The only one I've ever seen was silver looking around the outside edge. I bought it for my grandson in Oz last fall. It's a 1 euro coin from Italy. A coin is a circle, of course. The hinging makes me imagine a door, the ability to open up to what's behind or beyond the coin. Perhaps the hinging in the middle suggests two doorways, a choice to be made. Bruce N: Yes. That strikes me as 'good thinking' and indeed it proved to be so in that I didn't at first recognize that the coin had the da vinci design on it until I reflected for a while. Then I connected it with a similar design in a circle which appears on one of my symbol books. After I posted my question, it occured to me there were similarities to the alchemical figure of the (???) Self (???) rising from the tomb as an androginous figure, i.e. divided down the center. Yet there was no real reason in the dream itself to suppose male/female opposites were referred to . . . One thing about the hinge: I've never seen one like this one a door or window. I don't know what it's called but there are interlacing 'loops' from one end to the other with a narrow pin or wire running through them. I thought it might be called 'a jeweler's' hinge, for some reason, but find no varification for that . It was as if the coin could be folded almost like a butterfly . . . I appreciate your thoughts one this image, Bruce. Blessings, > > I had a very archetypal dream symbol this morning and would like to read any thoughts anyone might have. > > Before me was a large euro coin vertically hinged down the center. After a bit I remembered that the coin design which most impressed me was Leonardo da Vinci's man posed in the shape of a pentagram. > > Does anyone have thoughts on the symbolism of this image? > > Blessings, > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering. " H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Re: Re: 's dream symbol In a message dated 3/15/2006 7:03:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, nancysmith_1@... writes: One thing about the hinge: I've never seen one like this one a door or window. I don't know what it's called but there are interlacing 'loops' from one end to the other with a narrow pin or wire running through them. Might it be a piano hinge? piano hinge n. A long narrow hinge with a pin running the entire length of its joint. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. N: Yah, Sam. That seems to be the ticket: http://images.google.com/images?q=piano+hinge & svnum=10 & hl=en & lr= & safe=off & start=\ 0 & sa=N Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I'm a little peeved here, my apologies to the good folks here, but when I posted something about my dreams, which were meaningful to me, all I got was " you need to to visit a dream anaylsist " or " this forum is not a good way to dicuss dreams " ...etc..why is it now everybody seems to be helpful this the current dream topic by somebody else? Re: Re: 's dream symbol > > > In a message dated 3/15/2006 7:03:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, > nancysmith_1@... writes: > One thing about the hinge: I've never seen one like this one a door or > window. I don't know what it's called but there are interlacing 'loops' > from one end to the other with a narrow pin or wire running through them. > Might it be a piano hinge? > > piano hinge > n. > A long narrow hinge with a pin running the entire length of its joint. > > The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition > copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by > Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. > > N: Yah, Sam. That seems to be the ticket: > > http://images.google.com/images?q=piano+hinge & svnum=10 & hl=en & lr= & safe=off & st art=0 & sa=N > > Thanks! > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , 1.Coin currency in the market place - your exchange with others- 2.notion of value= feelings (what is most valuable to you and at what cost) 3.Acceptance - and all it entails vis in the actual exchange of the coin for whateveritisyoubuy. 4.giving and what is involved in that vis attitude to giving in the exchange of money for goods/service/....? 5.the symbol itself is the five pointed star 'A' pluss 'T' 6.Alchemists notions of squaring the Circle. 7.The content of a circle and the notion of balance. 9.All are Europa bound- Europe and Euro and the son of her Leonardo himself. The rape of her by the god of rape- Zeus himself (well as a bull in her case!) Sure just some out of the air stuff.... F. > Is this the coin? > > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=102619313 & size=m > > It's a 1 euro coin from Italy. A coin is a circle, of course. The > hinging makes me imagine a door, the ability to open up to what's > behind or beyond the coin. Perhaps the hinging in the middle suggests > two doorways, a choice to be made. > > Bruce > > > > I had a very archetypal dream symbol this morning and would > like to read any thoughts anyone might have. > > Before me was a large > euro coin vertically hinged down the center. After a bit I remembered > that the coin design which most impressed me was Leonardo da Vinci's > man posed in the shape of a pentagram. > > Does anyone have thoughts > on the symbolism of this image? > > Blessings, > > > > > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 >Another thought on the hinge, Payment "hinges on?" Blissings, Sam Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Re: Re: 's dream symbol > > > In a message dated 3/15/2006 7:03:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, > nancysmith_1@... writes: > One thing about the hinge: I've never seen one like this one a door or > window. I don't know what it's called but there are interlacing 'loops' > from one end to the other with a narrow pin or wire running through them. > Might it be a piano hinge? > > piano hinge > n. > A long narrow hinge with a pin running the entire length of its joint. > > The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition > copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by > Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. > > N: Yah, Sam. That seems to be the ticket: > > http://images.google.com/images?q=piano+hinge & svnum=10 & hl=en & lr= & safe=off & st art=0 & sa=N > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Re: Re: 's dream symbol , 1.Coin currency in the market place - your exchange with others- 2.notion of value= feelings (what is most valuable to you and at what cost) 3.Acceptance - and all it entails vis in the actual exchange of the coin for whateveritisyoubuy. 4.giving and what is involved in that vis attitude to giving in the exchange of money for goods/service/....? 5.the symbol itself is the five pointed star 'A' pluss 'T' 6.Alchemists notions of squaring the Circle. 7.The content of a circle and the notion of balance. 9.All are Europa bound- Europe and Euro and the son of her Leonardo himself. The rape of her by the god of rape- Zeus himself (well as a bull in her case!) Sure just some out of the air stuff.... F. N: Thanks, Stephan. These are good. I hadn't really thought of this coin as 'money' because I've never bought anything with the Euro. However this morning I woke with a dream of US paper money in different denominations so I'll give that aspect more thought. The Europa myth will also receive more consideration. It would draw the male female aspect in. Might you say a bit more about #s 5 and 6? They certainly sound pertinent; I'm just not sure I 'catch your drift'. Blessings, > Is this the coin? > > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=102619313 & size=m > > It's a 1 euro coin from Italy. A coin is a circle, of course. The > hinging makes me imagine a door, the ability to open up to what's > behind or beyond the coin. Perhaps the hinging in the middle suggests > two doorways, a choice to be made. > > Bruce > > > > I had a very archetypal dream symbol this morning and would > like to read any thoughts anyone might have. > > Before me was a large > euro coin vertically hinged down the center. After a bit I remembered > that the coin design which most impressed me was Leonardo da Vinci's > man posed in the shape of a pentagram. > > Does anyone have thoughts > on the symbolism of this image? > > Blessings, > > > > > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 >The center of the circle is at the navel, while the square is lower, at the sex organs. Here's an article where Place indicates that Leonardo used specific ratios to indicate that at the level of sexuality, we are centered in the physical, the square. When we are centered in the circle, the spiritual, we find the center to be the navel. He also describes how to draw lines that divide and bisect, etc, in order to describe the quincunx, the archetypal symbol for sacredness found in all cultures. If you're interested in more: Click here: Leonardo on the Tarot http://thealchemicalegg.com/leotaroN.html Blissings, Sam Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 , Worked with young law breakers for years in the UK. Every group has a core- when its a clique its not too bad when its a gang its dangerious- clique=control with responsabitly but without power or consequence. gang=power without responsibility or consequence.. Two of the four Quadrats or decision making absent.. F. > -- > Hi Joe, > > could it be that the -dream had more elements of > archetype in it? > > some dreams grant access to realms wherein things can > be known and visions seen. some are straightforward > and relativley simple (as much as any aspect of > " the other world " can be considered 'simple') > > I re-read some of your January dream-posting(s) > and thought they were replied to fairly well. > I did'nt reply, but I had nothing much to add. > > if somebody said: > " this forum is not a good way to > dicuss dreams " > > ... I'd be peeved myself > > there *is* a bit of clique-ness that exists on > this list, which a person might expect to be > absent in such a setting ... but it seems to > be the nature of the beast > > (happens most other places as well ... > I'm pretty used to it) > > peace, > tracy > > > > > > > > > - In JUNG-FIRE , " Joe Matera " wrote: > > > I'm a little peeved here, my apologies to the good folks here, but > when I > posted something about my dreams, which were meaningful to > me, all I got was > " you need to to visit a dream anaylsist " or " this > forum is not a good way to > dicuss dreams " ...etc..why is it now > everybody seems to be helpful this the > current dream topic by > somebody else? > > > > > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 5.the symbol itself is the five pointed star 'A' pluss 'T' The five points go back (among other places to the ancient Celts) The holly leaf with its five points as re-stated by Graves in the White Goddess- implies the five points of man- as depicted in the coin.. The sign of the goats head is also of this ilk and now been demonised by subsequent religion to be evil. with the five pointed star kinda upsidedown. The five pointed stare is the image has the figue of the human spread eagle. Vulnerable indeed.. 6.Alchemists notions of squaring the Circle. see below- this is indeed a mystery and one that seems to lead to the ultimate both in design and outcome... > I think that the idea of " squaring the circle " is definitely worth > consideration. Looking at the original drawing: > > http://tinyurl.com/kotsj > > the circle and square are so prominent. I'm struck by the fact that > the circle and the square don't share a common center, the center of > the square is lower than the center of the circle. Has the square > descended from the circle? > > Bruce > > > > >> From: jdstephenflynn@... > >> 6.Alchemists notions of squaring the Circle. > > > N: Thanks, Stephan. These are good... > > > > Might you say a bit more about #s 5 and 6? They certainly sound > > pertinent; I'm just not sure I 'catch your drift'. > > > > > > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Wow. I never noticed that before. Maybe it's related to the chakras? The center of the circle is at the navel, while the square is lower, at the sex organs. Also, in the square, the man's figure forms a cross, in the circle a pentagram.Very interesting!Thank you!Eve I think that the idea of "squaring the circle" is definitely worthconsideration. Looking at the original drawing:http://tinyurl.com/kotsjthe circle and square are so prominent. I'm struck by the fact thatthe circle and the square don't share a common center, the center ofthe square is lower than the center of the circle. Has the squaredescended from the circle? Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts. - Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Eve And seeing the square is masuline and the circle feminine... F. > Wow. I never noticed that before. Maybe it's related to the chakras? > The center of the circle is at the navel, while the square is lower, > at the sex organs. > > Also, in the square, the man's figure forms a cross, in the circle a > pentagram. > > Very interesting! > > Thank you! > > Eve > > > > > > I think that the idea of " squaring the circle " is definitely worth > > consideration. Looking at the original drawing: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/kotsj > > > > the circle and square are so prominent. I'm struck by the fact that > > the circle and the square don't share a common center, the center of > > the square is lower than the center of the circle. Has the square > > descended from the circle? > > Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own > hearts. - Albert Einstein > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.