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Hi Rita.

Hey, I got a great idea. Lets do it on list. How about we all start posting

foods we like and we can look up the carb info online. Someone on the list

keep a master text file or word doc of the foods and carb grams as we post

them and over time, we can have a great text file/word doc for blind

diabetics! So, lets start, what types of foods do people want to know carb

grams for? I'd suggest to keep all posts about this in this thread and don't

start a new thread on it. Reason? So we can easily track/keep record of the

foods and carb grams. Who on list wants to keep the text file for us?

counting carbs is vital

> Hello Listers,

>

> For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital also.

> So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

>

> Rita

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Oh this would be great! Will it then be in plain text? My computer

skills are so so limited. Not too bright I guess.

Rita

> Hi Rita.

>

> Hey, I got a great idea. Lets do it on list. How about we all start posting

> foods we like and we can look up the carb info online. Someone on the list

> keep a master text file or word doc of the foods and carb grams as we post

> them and over time, we can have a great text file/word doc for blind

> diabetics! So, lets start, what types of foods do people want to know carb

> grams for? I'd suggest to keep all posts about this in this thread and don't

> start a new thread on it. Reason? So we can easily track/keep record of the

> foods and carb grams. Who on list wants to keep the text file for us?

>

>

>

> counting carbs is vital

>

>

> > Hello Listers,

> >

> > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital also.

> > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> >

> > Rita

> >

>

>

>

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I would keep a master list, but I am going out of town on a cruise for a

couple of weeks. So I hope some body does keep a master list. Keep this

message thread going.

counting carbs is vital

>

>

> > Hello Listers,

> >

> > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital also.

> > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> >

> > Rita

> >

>

>

>

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sure, we can make it in a text file, carb grams.txt, or some such file that

will be in plain text so you can read it.

counting carbs is vital

> >

> >

> > > Hello Listers,

> > >

> > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

also.

> > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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hey np Harry. You are lucky to be going on a cruise. Have fun! I'm certain

you will.

counting carbs is vital

> >

> >

> > > Hello Listers,

> > >

> > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

also.

> > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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caulflower

broccoli

spinach

strawberries

whipping cream

I am doing pretty much the Atkins diet. I have about 25 carbs a day.

Rita and Thanks!

> Hi Rita.

>

> Hey, I got a great idea. Lets do it on list. How about we all start posting

> foods we like and we can look up the carb info online. Someone on the list

> keep a master text file or word doc of the foods and carb grams as we post

> them and over time, we can have a great text file/word doc for blind

> diabetics! So, lets start, what types of foods do people want to know carb

> grams for? I'd suggest to keep all posts about this in this thread and don't

> start a new thread on it. Reason? So we can easily track/keep record of the

> foods and carb grams. Who on list wants to keep the text file for us?

>

>

>

> counting carbs is vital

>

>

> > Hello Listers,

> >

> > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital also.

> > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> >

> > Rita

> >

>

>

>

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Thank you Harry!

Rita Tell us all about it when you get back please. Smile.

> I would keep a master list, but I am going out of town on a cruise for a

> couple of weeks. So I hope some body does keep a master list. Keep this

> message thread going.

> counting carbs is vital

> >

> >

> > > Hello Listers,

> > >

> > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital also.

> > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Aren't these htings listed in the text file I sent to you from the USDA?

Dean

counting carbs is vital

> >

> >

> > > Hello Listers,

> > >

> > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

also.

> > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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The ones I got from you seemed to be in some kind of spreadsheet format, but

I may be wrong about this. After several attempts I was able to convert the

file you sent into a plain text format without all those columns and rows.

It takes a lot of trial and error to read the carb count and the named food.

It would be nice to have a named food followed by the amount and the carb

count all on one line. If not on one line, at least the named food followed

on the next line by the amount of this food and the carb count and not all

that other stuff like protein, minerals, fat, and .etc..

IMO

counting carbs is vital

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello Listers,

> > > >

> > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> also.

> > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > >

> > > > Rita

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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ah, that's right. Dean did send a carb count text file to several so come to

think of it, there probably isn't a reason to do this on list. Dean, perhaps

paste in all the info from the text file into a new message and post it to

the list so the archives will have it for new comers to find. Perhaps make

the subject " complete list of foods and carb grams " or some such thing?

regards,

counting carbs is vital

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello Listers,

> > > >

> > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> also.

> > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > >

> > > > Rita

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I'll do that. I don't remember there being the number of proteins, etc. in

this text file, though. It was a little difficult to follow. Maybe I could

clean it up some and send it.

Dean

counting carbs is vital

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> > also.

> > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Dean and List,

Well Dean just now I do not recall if either I did not receive it, or did

not know how to access it, or did not realize then just how vital carb

counting is. However, perhaps you could either resend to myself or the

whole list.

I may need to discuss with someone how to open this on dos.

Thank you Dean.

Rita

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Right on Harry! Just my style. Now may I have this dance? lol!

Rita

> The ones I got from you seemed to be in some kind of spreadsheet format, but

> I may be wrong about this. After several attempts I was able to convert the

> file you sent into a plain text format without all those columns and rows.

> It takes a lot of trial and error to read the carb count and the named food.

> It would be nice to have a named food followed by the amount and the carb

> count all on one line. If not on one line, at least the named food followed

> on the next line by the amount of this food and the carb count and not all

> that other stuff like protein, minerals, fat, and .etc..

> IMO

> counting carbs is vital

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> > also.

> > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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harry, I am slowly making up such a list for the diabetic eeducation class I

am co-teaching with a doc. when it is done, I will put it in an E-mail to

the list as I don't think the list wil allow attachments. It may be a

couple more weeks, however.

Re: counting carbs is vital

The ones I got from you seemed to be in some kind of spreadsheet format, but

I may be wrong about this. After several attempts I was able to convert the

file you sent into a plain text format without all those columns and rows.

It takes a lot of trial and error to read the carb count and the named food.

It would be nice to have a named food followed by the amount and the carb

count all on one line. If not on one line, at least the named food followed

on the next line by the amount of this food and the carb count and not all

that other stuff like protein, minerals, fat, and .etc..

IMO

counting carbs is vital

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello Listers,

> > > >

> > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> also.

> > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > >

> > > > Rita

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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,

That would be great!

Put those students to work. I would imagine there are several of them that

are over weight and could learn how to do some carb counting. I will be

looking forward to seeing it posted in the next few weeks.

counting carbs is vital

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> > also.

> > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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ly, every student in the class is overweight-some of them grossly so!

there is, interestingly, a non-diabetic in the class who has a high rate of

diabetes in her family and she has joined the class to loose weight-and she

has lost 33 pounds in 4 months! Some people are more motivated than others.

(She is blind due to macular degeneration)

Re: counting carbs is vital

,

That would be great!

Put those students to work. I would imagine there are several of them that

are over weight and could learn how to do some carb counting. I will be

looking forward to seeing it posted in the next few weeks.

counting carbs is vital

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> > also.

> > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Oh Pat that would be wonderful and so easy to access. Thank you so much.

Yes, you are right about attachments. Not sure, but I think most of yahoo

does not permits attachments.

Rita

> harry, I am slowly making up such a list for the diabetic eeducation class I

> am co-teaching with a doc. when it is done, I will put it in an E-mail to

> the list as I don't think the list wil allow attachments. It may be a

> couple more weeks, however.

>

> Re: counting carbs is vital

>

>

> The ones I got from you seemed to be in some kind of spreadsheet format, but

> I may be wrong about this. After several attempts I was able to convert the

> file you sent into a plain text format without all those columns and rows.

> It takes a lot of trial and error to read the carb count and the named food.

> It would be nice to have a named food followed by the amount and the carb

> count all on one line. If not on one line, at least the named food followed

> on the next line by the amount of this food and the carb count and not all

> that other stuff like protein, minerals, fat, and .etc..

> IMO

> counting carbs is vital

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is vital

> > also.

> > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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hold off Pat. I have a database of foods/carb counts and am working on

getting a query developed that will extract the name of the food, portion

size, and then the carb grams. It will look like:

apple, 2 inch by 2 inch raw, 25

broccolis, 1 cup, 6

.....

this won't be done for a week or so but just wanted to let everyone know it

is coming.

regards,

counting carbs is vital

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is

vital

> > > also.

> > > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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JOY!!!

Sounds great. Thanks millions

Rita

> hold off Pat. I have a database of foods/carb counts and am working on

> getting a query developed that will extract the name of the food, portion

> size, and then the carb grams. It will look like:

>

> apple, 2 inch by 2 inch raw, 25

> broccolis, 1 cup, 6

> ....

>

> this won't be done for a week or so but just wanted to let everyone know it

> is coming.

>

> regards,

>

> counting carbs is vital

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is

> vital

> > > > also.

> > > > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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it will be huge and I'll probably have to split it up into several text

files and let folks d/l it from my web site.

regards,

counting carbs is vital

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is

> > vital

> > > > > also.

> > > > > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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I started redoing the list I sent. It will contain the item, some brand

names, the weight in grams, the serving size and the grams of carbs. After

working on it manually for a few hours last night I came up with a script so

JAWS can do most of the work for me. Itried it this morning before coming to

work. I am up to the foods starting with the letter " f " . maybe I will be

done by this weekend and will paste what I get into an e-mail. then everyone

can save it in whatever kind of file they want.

Dean

Re: counting carbs is vital

> Hi Dean and List,

>

> Well Dean just now I do not recall if either I did not receive it, or did

> not know how to access it, or did not realize then just how vital carb

> counting is. However, perhaps you could either resend to myself or the

> whole list.

> I may need to discuss with someone how to open this on dos.

>

> Thank you Dean.

>

> Rita

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, . That will save duplication-and save me from hours on the

computer as i don't have the knowledge to do it as quickly as you! Wish you

lived closer-I would pay to take lessons!

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hold off Pat. I have a database of foods/carb counts and am working on

getting a query developed that will extract the name of the food, portion

size, and then the carb grams. It will look like:

apple, 2 inch by 2 inch raw, 25

broccolis, 1 cup, 6

.....

this won't be done for a week or so but just wanted to let everyone know it

is coming.

regards,

counting carbs is vital

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Listers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For those of us who want to drop weight, counting caarbs is

vital

> > > also.

> > > > > > So why can we not find a carb counter in braille?

> > > > > > This is not a topic easily handled on tape.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Gee, you guys a re great with coming up with this list! thanks, Dean.

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I started redoing the list I sent. It will contain the item, some brand

names, the weight in grams, the serving size and the grams of carbs. After

working on it manually for a few hours last night I came up with a script so

JAWS can do most of the work for me. Itried it this morning before coming to

work. I am up to the foods starting with the letter " f " . maybe I will be

done by this weekend and will paste what I get into an e-mail. then everyone

can save it in whatever kind of file they want.

Dean

Re: counting carbs is vital

> Hi Dean and List,

>

> Well Dean just now I do not recall if either I did not receive it, or did

> not know how to access it, or did not realize then just how vital carb

> counting is. However, perhaps you could either resend to myself or the

> whole list.

> I may need to discuss with someone how to open this on dos.

>

> Thank you Dean.

>

> Rita

>

>

>

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Hi Dean.

Wow! that is some serious work man. Thanks a lot for doing this for us all I

am looking forward to seeing it.

regards,

Re: counting carbs is vital

>

>

> > Hi Dean and List,

> >

> > Well Dean just now I do not recall if either I did not receive it, or

did

> > not know how to access it, or did not realize then just how vital carb

> > counting is. However, perhaps you could either resend to myself or the

> > whole list.

> > I may need to discuss with someone how to open this on dos.

> >

> > Thank you Dean.

> >

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Wow!, I envy you computer programmer types!

Re: counting carbs is vital

>

>

> > Hi Dean and List,

> >

> > Well Dean just now I do not recall if either I did not receive it, or

did

> > not know how to access it, or did not realize then just how vital carb

> > counting is. However, perhaps you could either resend to myself or the

> > whole list.

> > I may need to discuss with someone how to open this on dos.

> >

> > Thank you Dean.

> >

> > Rita

> >

> >

> >

> >

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