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Hi Debbie,

There really are other ways.

Do you have a Chinese health centre in your vicinity. I am certain that they would gladly advise you if possible. Acupuncture is also an excellent way to counteract pain and as for myself, I use a simple magnetic bracelet which works through the blood stream. Whenever I get a pain for any reason at all, I just wear it for a few days and get quite exceptional results. The only onerous thing about it is that you need to drink at least six glasses of water a day. Willow water is the best as it contains natural salacin, but any spring water is OK.

All the best.

Larry

I read the messages posted here, often.... But I am needing some guidness with my husbands emotional rollercoaster..First the pain comes( he takes LORATAB) for pain which does not take all the pain away...then comes the tears (he is on daily casadex)and 4 month HT injection(Eligard)last gotten was in July..psa level was 5.6 in March(coming down from 274 and in July it is 6.8..Went to a cancer doctor for a first visit there since seeing uroligist since March..He was very rude when husband asked for script for pain pills..No explanation for the anger..so now husband is thinking of not returning to cancer center... I have suggested maybe its time to try something else for pain?? is there?? I have read that radiation usually does not work on someone with lots of mets.(spot on lower spin, pelvic,etc) he says his pain is in his legs....The cancer doctor is trying to push that husbands pain in legs is from a prior injury to back in 1995..a new bone scan is being done next month..should we wait for those results before pushing for something else??? I just hope someone in this group can give me suggestions...thank you for your time it took to readThere are just two rules for this group 1 No Spam 2 Be kind to othersPlease recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at other options. Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking replyTry to change the title if the content requires it

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-Wow! Debbie, This sounds serious. I never had to take anything more

than Alleve.

Perhaps a new Physician is in order.

-- In ProstateCancerSupport , " Debbie "

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>

> I read the messages posted here, often.... But I am needing some

> guidness with my husbands emotional rollercoaster..First the pain

comes

> ( he takes LORATAB) for pain which does not take all the pain

> away...then comes the tears (he is on daily casadex)and 4 month HT

> injection(Eligard)last gotten was in July..psa level was 5.6 in

March

> (coming down from 274 and in July it is 6.8..Went to a cancer

doctor

> for a first visit there since seeing uroligist since March..He was

> very rude when husband asked for script for pain pills..No

explanation

> for the anger..so now husband is thinking of not returning to

cancer

> center... I have suggested maybe its time to try something else

for

> pain?? is there?? I have read that radiation usually does not

work on

> someone with lots of mets.(spot on lower spin, pelvic,etc) he says

his

> pain is in his legs....The cancer doctor is trying to push that

> husbands pain in legs is from a prior injury to back in 1995..a

new

> bone scan is being done next month..should we wait for those

results

> before pushing for something else??? I just hope someone in this

group

> can give me suggestions...thank you for your time it took to read

>

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I think your husband should see an oncologist. Pain is not the specialty of a urologist. If he doesn't get the support he needs from the oncologist for the pain then he should seek out a pain/palliative care physician. Even if leg injury is a prior injury it is still painful.

Kathy

-----Original Message-----From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of DebbieSent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:14 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Emotional Help

I read the messages posted here, often.... But I am needing some guidness with my husbands emotional rollercoaster..First the pain comes( he takes LORATAB) for pain which does not take all the pain away...then comes the tears (he is on daily casadex)and 4 month HT injection(Eligard)last gotten was in July..psa level was 5.6 in March(coming down from 274 and in July it is 6.8..Went to a cancer doctor for a first visit there since seeing uroligist since March..He was very rude when husband asked for script for pain pills..No explanation for the anger..so now husband is thinking of not returning to cancer center... I have suggested maybe its time to try something else for pain?? is there?? I have read that radiation usually does not work on someone with lots of mets.(spot on lower spin, pelvic,etc) he says his pain is in his legs....The cancer doctor is trying to push that husbands pain in legs is from a prior injury to back in 1995..a new bone scan is being done next month..should we wait for those results before pushing for something else??? I just hope someone in this group can give me suggestions...thank you for your time it took to read

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<snip> " Went to a cancer doctor for a first visit there since seeing

uroligist since March..He was

very rude when husband asked for script for pain pills..No explanation for

the anger..so now husband is thinking of not returning to cancer center... I

have suggested maybe its time to try something else for pain?? " <snip>

Hi Debbie.

The reaction you got is being gotten by patients in many doctor's offices in

the U.S. Doctors are fearful of prescribing pain medications because they

might be accused of contributing to the patient's abuse of pain killers.

This has become more prevalent since the media frenzy over Rush Limbaugh " s

alleged drug abuse. Some doctors have been jailed and fined for prescribing

what was construed to be aiding an abuser obtain excessive amounts of drugs.

I have Arthritis and frequent the lists devoted to that disease and the

participants are having the same problem you mentioned. The consensus is,

one must try to find a doctor, perhaps a Medical Oncologist, or a pain

clinic where the doctors are expert in relieving many kinds of pain. It has

become another instance where the people who have need are being deprived by

the people who abuse. Modern medicine can and should treat pain regardless

of it's origin. The swig of whiskey and bullet between the teeth method is

no longer acceptable.

I hope things get better for you and your husband. Talk to the doctors. They

are not Gods. Tell them you are the ones in charge and do not leave without

some answers. Dr. Strum once said, " MD does not mean Medical Diety. "

All my best.

2601

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

Emotional Help

>I read the messages posted here, often.... But I am needing some

> guidness with my husbands emotional rollercoaster..First the pain comes

> ( he takes LORATAB) for pain which does not take all the pain

> away...then comes the tears (he is on daily casadex)and 4 month HT

> injection(Eligard)last gotten was in July..psa level was 5.6 in March

> (coming down from 274 and in July it is 6.8..Went to a cancer doctor

> for a first visit there since seeing uroligist since March..He was

> very rude when husband asked for script for pain pills..No explanation

> for the anger..so now husband is thinking of not returning to cancer

> center... I have suggested maybe its time to try something else for

> pain?? is there?? I have read that radiation usually does not work on

> someone with lots of mets.(spot on lower spin, pelvic,etc) he says his

> pain is in his legs....The cancer doctor is trying to push that

> husbands pain in legs is from a prior injury to back in 1995..a new

> bone scan is being done next month..should we wait for those results

> before pushing for something else??? I just hope someone in this group

> can give me suggestions...thank you for your time it took to read

>

>

>

>

>

>

> There are just two rules for this group

> 1 No Spam

> 2 Be kind to others

>

> Please recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs

> different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some

> men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not

> choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we

> cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at

> other options.

>

> Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking reply

> Try to change the title if the content requires it

>

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> I think your husband should see an oncologist. Pain is not the

specialty

> of a urologist. If he doesn't get the support he needs from the

> oncologist for the pain then he should seek out a pain/palliative

care

> physician. Even if leg injury is a prior injury it is still painful.

>

> Kathy

>

>Kathy....... it was an oncologist(cancer doctor) we saw recently that

gave him such a hard time when requesting pain pills...This is where I

am worried that he will not return............... Would mets " settle "

in weak spots from prior injury?

>

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