Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Theresa, it occurred to me this morning, and I've no idea why it's taken my brain so long to figure this out, that insurance companies are also heavily invested in making sure that autism is not considered a treatable illness as well. What sorts of shenanigans do you suppose they've been up to? A bunch of thugs and cheats run this country. Liz > From: binstock@... > Reply-To: csb-autism-rx > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:41:59 -0700 (MST) > To: csb-autism-rx > Subject: Senator Grassley aide attacked > > Grassley and staff have been very active against abuses by pharmcos etc > (eg, 3-5). First article describes a physical attack on a Grassley aide. > Second article's url has not been located, but reporter's email address is > included with article. > > * * * * > > " Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot-1-inch > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > object believed to be a baseball bat. " (1) > > * * * * > > 1. FBI called in on Hill > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110805/news1.h tm> l > > FBI called in on Hill > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > > The FBI and Capitol Police are investigating the vicious attack of a top > Senate staffer at her home last week amid concerns that the assault might > be related to her work on the Finance Committee. > > Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot-1-inch > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > object believed to be a baseball bat. > > After she screamed to her family inside the house, the assailant fled. > DiSanto was transported to Inova Fair Oaks Hospital, where she was treated > for significant upper-body injuries. Nine staples were needed to close her > head wound. > > DiSanto, who declined to comment, has reported back to work. > > The attack and the possibility that it was motivated by congressional > business have made some people anxious on Capitol Hill. > > “This is of obvious concern to anyone working here,” a Senate staffer > said. “It’s very disconcerting when you worry about someone resorting to > violence. This could be intimidation, and you wonder whether it’s safe to > do your job.” > > The attack on DiSanto came two days before a bomb threat caused alarm at > an Iowa veterans home where Grassley was scheduled to appear. > > According to the Iowa Times Republican, an anonymous caller told a > switchboard operator Friday that a bomb would detonate in the center’s > cemetery shortly before 1 p.m. The threat was not in the area where > Grassley was scheduled to appear and later was deemed a false alarm. > Grassley made the visit to the center as planned. > > No evidence has surfaced that definitively points to DiSanto’s work on the > Finance Committee as the trigger for the attack, but sources say there are > a number of clues that suggest it could be. > > The assailant was trying to hide his identity, wearing a hood and black > gloves. He also did not make any demands before attacking the 49-year-old > staffer. A working assumption among investigators is that he was waiting > for her to arrive home. > > Sources say acts of violence in DiSanto’s neighborhood are rare. > > Grassley is known for his aggressive oversight of the public and private > sector. Over the past year, he has scrutinized healthcare fraud, > organ-donation procedures used by hospitals, drug-safety matters and the > use of nonprofit groups related to former lobbyist Jack Abramoff. > > In her line of work, DiSanto “doesn’t make a lot of friends,” an aide said. > > Grassley spokeswoman Jill Kozeny said federal and local law-enforcement > officials have not ruled out the possibility that the attack was > work-related. She said Grassley and DiSanto have discussed the incident. > > The only reason why the FBI is involved is because the assault may have > been work-related. > > There is no indication that the bomb threat and the DiSanto event are > related. > > Fairfax County police are treating the attack as an attempted homicide. > > Some Senate staffers said Capitol Police did not initially treat the > attack as work-related late last week. > > “We don’t do law enforcement, but that one was a really hard one to > swallow,” a Senate aide said. > > Capitol Police said they were deferring to Fairfax County police, who are > taking the lead on the probe. > > In response to the attack, Ken Cunningham, Grassley’s chief of staff, sent > an e-mail to Grassley employees urging them to report any suspicious > activity or incidents to the Senate sergeant at arms. Cunningham noted in > the e-mail that Grassley had asked the FBI to investigate. > > Grassley is one of Capitol Hill’s most vocal critics of the FBI. > > Capitol Police Chief Terrence Gainer said the unit is looking at the > possible relationship between the attack on DiSanto and her position at > the Capitol. > > “I think all the agents involved are looking into the motive,” he added. > > Gainer said three agencies conferred Friday and yesterday to discuss the > ongoing investigation. > > An FBI spokeswoman confirmed the agency is looking into the attack. > > Senate aides say they have been rattled by the incident, and some have > taken extra precautions after hearing of it. > > DiSanto has worked on the Hill for more than a decade. In July 2000, she > was identified by Fortune magazine as one of the “Power 30” in Washington > as the staff director for then-Senate Small Business Committee Chairman > Kit Bond (R-Mo.). She also worked for the House Committee on Economic and > Educational Opportunities in the mid 1990s. > > * * * * > > 2. Grassley Demands Answers on Safety of U.S. Experimental Drugs > > Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The head of the U.S. Senate committee that oversees > the Medicare and Medicaid health insurance programs is demanding to know > whether the government is doing enough to ensure safety during clinical > trials of experimental drugs. > > Citing what he called an ``alarming'' report by Bloomberg News, Senate > Finance Committee Chairman Grassley said federal agencies > responsible for the drug trials owe the American people a better > accounting of how the testing is conducted. > > A report in the December issue of Bloomberg Markets magazine found > conflicts of interest and lax oversight in the drug-testing industry. Over > the past 14 years, the article said, private companies have largely taken > over the job of conducting studies on experimental treatments, supplanting > universities. Scores of people have died or been injured, the article > said. > > ``Not only is this treatment of participating patients and their families > alarming, but it also undermines the credibility of the pharmaceutical > research and development process and places the value of new > pharmaceutical products in question,'' Grassley, an Iowa Republican, wrote > in a letter to the Health and Human Services Department's inspector > general. > > Grassley said Inspector General Levinson should quickly compile a > list of recommendations his office has made since 1995 and determine > whether the appropriate agencies are heeding them. The agencies include > HHS, the Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of > Health. > > ``We must take every possible step to ensure that our clinical trial > system is in fact the `gold standard' that we expect it to be,'' Grassley > said. He asked for a briefing by Levinson's staff ``at the earliest > opportunity.'' > > Tightening the Rules > > Grassley said Levinson's office should examine the role of so-called > institutional review boards that oversee the tests, with an eye toward > adopting tougher oversight. The largest, Western Institutional Review > Board of Olympia, Washington, is a for-profit company that oversees 17,000 > trials. > > Don White, a spokesman for Levinson, declined to say whether his boss has > received the letter. ``We are aware of Chairman Grassley's great interest > in this area,'' White said. ``We've obviously done work on this before and > already have work plans for the future.'' > > While Grassley's committee doesn't have direct jurisdiction over the FDA, > he said its oversight of Medicare and Medicaid makes him responsible for > ensuring medicines are safe. Grassley last year began an investigation of > the FDA's handling of drug- safety issues after the withdrawal of Merck & > Co.'s Vioxx painkiller. > > Industry-Sponsored Tests > > University medical faculties conducted 80 percent of industry-sponsored > drug tests in 1991, according to the New England Journal of Medicine. > Today, more than 75 percent of trials are done in doctors' offices or > private test centers such as those run by SFBC International Inc., > according to CenterWatch, a Boston-based compiler of clinical trial data. > > In many cases, the people who volunteer for the drug trials are no longer > protected by review boards at universities and now must rely on for-profit > review boards. Drugmakers pay for both the private testers and the boards > monitoring the trials, raising a potential conflict of interest, Grassley > said. > > Citing the Bloomberg article, Grassley wrote that test participants aren't > always adequately warned of the risks. > > ``Some are dying as a result of the trials,'' Grassley said. > > In Houston, the Fabre Research Clinic has been reviewed by an oversight > company set up by Louis Fabre, the owner of the clinic. In Miami, SFBC > International, which runs the largest private testing center in North > America, has used a review company owned by the wife of an SFBC executive. > > Shares of Miami-based SFBC dropped 26 percent after the Bloomberg report > was published Nov. 2. > > `Distortion of Our Work' > > SFBC Chairman Krinsky said last week the report was a ``severe > distortion of our work.'' She said the company complies with all > regulatory standards and never has been issued a warning letter by the FDA. > > A day after the Bloomberg report was published, Grassley said the FDA must > do more to oversee clinical trials. In response to his comments, the FDA > said last week in a statement that the agency ``is evolving our approach > to clinical trial oversight. The protection of patients' rights is a > fundamental focus.'' > > FDA spokeswoman Zawisza yesterday declined to comment on Grassley's > letter, saying she hasn't seen it. > > ``We do take very seriously our responsibility to protect people involved > in clinical trials,'' she said. > > The FDA also said it is examining its reporting rules and the other issues > raised by the article. > > Laboratory Rats > > Because experiments on laboratory rats can't reliably predict how a > chemical will affect people, human testing of new drugs is vital. Helped > by extensive clinical trials, drugmakers have developed antibiotics > capable of curing life-threatening infections and come up with > revolutionary treatments for diseases like cancer and AIDS over the years. > > ``The vast majority of clinical trials conducted in the United States meet > high ethical standards,'' the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of > America, a Washington-based trade group, said last week in a written > response to questions. ``The U.S. regulatory system is the world's gold > standard, and the Food and Drug Administration has the best product-safety > record.'' > > Ken , senior vice president for the trade group, said it would be > inappropriate to provide detailed comments until the group reviews the > practices in question. > > ``That review is now under way,'' he said. ``We are confident that our > member companies are committed to conducting all clinical trials to the > highest ethical standards.'' > > The organization's members include Pfizer Inc., Merck & Co. and & > . > > To contact the reporters on this story: > Hallam in Washington khallam@... > > * * * * > > 3. Philadelphia Inquirer Examines Grassley Investigations of FDA ... > According to the Inquirer , Grassley has said that pharmaceutical ... > Grassley said, " If it looks like I am going after the pharmaceutical > industry, ... > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27012 > > 4. Sen. Grassley Calls for Investigation Into Reports That Drug ... Senate > Finance Committee Chair Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday sent a letter to > US ... according to some doctors and pharmaceutical company executives, > ... > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=28875 > > 5. United States Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa > The pharmaceutical industry would no longer be able to gouge American ... > the doors to competition in the global pharmaceutical industry, " Grassley > said. ... > http://grassley.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.View & PressReleas > e_id=4874 > > * > > The material in this post is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest > in receiving the included information for research > and educational purposes.For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this > email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you > must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Liz, But at least they have a motive. Why are pediatricians so reluctant to admit there are way to biomedically treat autism and other developmental delays? You'd think they would want the extra business! It breaks my heart when I read about all of the corruption out there. I really hope that some of it is exaggerated. I have a close relative who works for a pharmaceutical company, and it disheartens me to hear so many people criticizing them all of the time. I really do believe in the bottom of my heart that 99% of the people in the pharmaco have good intentions. I think we need to hope this is the case, and remember that there are people at these companies devoting all of their time and effort and money to find cures for horrible diseases and letting us all live longer and healthier lives. They're out there right now looking for a way to protect us all from this Avian Flu. But in the back of their minds, they have to remember that even if their vaccine protects millions from dying they will inevitably have to fight million-dollar law suits because there will be some (hopefully) unforseen side effect. So they debate whether it is even in their best interests to save millions of people... Is this really the world we want? Let's keep perspective on this, please. Yes, I think that MMR and other vaccines are damaging our children. Yes, it's a travesty. If there are people who are really in on cover-up and are willfully neglecting the safety of our children, those people need to be punished. But I'm not willing to give up my doctors because of outrageous malpractice suits, I'm not willing to live without my life-saving daily medications because they've injured a few people, I'm not willing to go back in time and take away the vaccines that have saved billions of lives. I want to move forward. I want a less-litigious society, where a drug company can publicly admit to a mistake as soon as it is found, can say sorry and can be forgiven (no more cover-ups please!). I want to keep believing that most people have good intentions. Sorry all of this just rolled out of me. It's not very eloquent, but it's the way I feel. I know that a lot of you will have issues with this. Kerri > > Theresa, it occurred to me this morning, and I've no idea why it's taken my > brain so long to figure this out, that insurance companies are also heavily > invested in making sure that autism is not considered a treatable illness as > well. What sorts of shenanigans do you suppose they've been up to? > > A bunch of thugs and cheats run this country. > > Liz > > > From: binstock@p... > > Reply-To: csb-autism-rx > > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:41:59 -0700 (MST) > > To: csb-autism-rx > > Subject: Senator Grassley aide attacked > > > > Grassley and staff have been very active against abuses by pharmcos etc > > (eg, 3-5). First article describes a physical attack on a Grassley aide. > > Second article's url has not been located, but reporter's email address is > > included with article. > > > > * * * * > > > > " Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot- 1-inch > > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > > object believed to be a baseball bat. " (1) > > > > * * * * > > > > 1. FBI called in on Hill > > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > > > http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110805/ news1.h > tm> l > > > > FBI called in on Hill > > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > > > > The FBI and Capitol Police are investigating the vicious attack of a top > > Senate staffer at her home last week amid concerns that the assault might > > be related to her work on the Finance Committee. > > > > Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot- 1-inch > > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > > object believed to be a baseball bat. > > > > After she screamed to her family inside the house, the assailant fled. > > DiSanto was transported to Inova Fair Oaks Hospital, where she was treated > > for significant upper-body injuries. Nine staples were needed to close her > > head wound. > > > > DiSanto, who declined to comment, has reported back to work. > > > > The attack and the possibility that it was motivated by congressional > > business have made some people anxious on Capitol Hill. > > > > " This is of obvious concern to anyone working here, " a Senate staffer > > said. " It's very disconcerting when you worry about someone resorting to > > violence. This could be intimidation, and you wonder whether it's safe to > > do your job. " > > > > The attack on DiSanto came two days before a bomb threat caused alarm at > > an Iowa veterans home where Grassley was scheduled to appear. > > > > According to the Iowa Times Republican, an anonymous caller told a > > switchboard operator Friday that a bomb would detonate in the center's > > cemetery shortly before 1 p.m. The threat was not in the area where > > Grassley was scheduled to appear and later was deemed a false alarm. > > Grassley made the visit to the center as planned. > > > > No evidence has surfaced that definitively points to DiSanto's work on the > > Finance Committee as the trigger for the attack, but sources say there are > > a number of clues that suggest it could be. > > > > The assailant was trying to hide his identity, wearing a hood and black > > gloves. He also did not make any demands before attacking the 49- year-old > > staffer. A working assumption among investigators is that he was waiting > > for her to arrive home. > > > > Sources say acts of violence in DiSanto's neighborhood are rare. > > > > Grassley is known for his aggressive oversight of the public and private > > sector. Over the past year, he has scrutinized healthcare fraud, > > organ-donation procedures used by hospitals, drug-safety matters and the > > use of nonprofit groups related to former lobbyist Jack Abramoff. > > > > In her line of work, DiSanto " doesn't make a lot of friends, " an aide said. > > > > Grassley spokeswoman Jill Kozeny said federal and local law- enforcement > > officials have not ruled out the possibility that the attack was > > work-related. She said Grassley and DiSanto have discussed the incident. > > > > The only reason why the FBI is involved is because the assault may have > > been work-related. > > > > There is no indication that the bomb threat and the DiSanto event are > > related. > > > > Fairfax County police are treating the attack as an attempted homicide. > > > > Some Senate staffers said Capitol Police did not initially treat the > > attack as work-related late last week. > > > > " We don't do law enforcement, but that one was a really hard one to > > swallow, " a Senate aide said. > > > > Capitol Police said they were deferring to Fairfax County police, who are > > taking the lead on the probe. > > > > In response to the attack, Ken Cunningham, Grassley's chief of staff, sent > > an e-mail to Grassley employees urging them to report any suspicious > > activity or incidents to the Senate sergeant at arms. Cunningham noted in > > the e-mail that Grassley had asked the FBI to investigate. > > > > Grassley is one of Capitol Hill's most vocal critics of the FBI. > > > > Capitol Police Chief Terrence Gainer said the unit is looking at the > > possible relationship between the attack on DiSanto and her position at > > the Capitol. > > > > " I think all the agents involved are looking into the motive, " he added. > > > > Gainer said three agencies conferred Friday and yesterday to discuss the > > ongoing investigation. > > > > An FBI spokeswoman confirmed the agency is looking into the attack. > > > > Senate aides say they have been rattled by the incident, and some have > > taken extra precautions after hearing of it. > > > > DiSanto has worked on the Hill for more than a decade. In July 2000, she > > was identified by Fortune magazine as one of the " Power 30 " in Washington > > as the staff director for then-Senate Small Business Committee Chairman > > Kit Bond (R-Mo.). She also worked for the House Committee on Economic and > > Educational Opportunities in the mid 1990s. > > > > * * * * > > > > 2. Grassley Demands Answers on Safety of U.S. Experimental Drugs > > > > Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The head of the U.S. Senate committee that oversees > > the Medicare and Medicaid health insurance programs is demanding to know > > whether the government is doing enough to ensure safety during clinical > > trials of experimental drugs. > > > > Citing what he called an ``alarming'' report by Bloomberg News, Senate > > Finance Committee Chairman Grassley said federal agencies > > responsible for the drug trials owe the American people a better > > accounting of how the testing is conducted. > > > > A report in the December issue of Bloomberg Markets magazine found > > conflicts of interest and lax oversight in the drug-testing industry. Over > > the past 14 years, the article said, private companies have largely taken > > over the job of conducting studies on experimental treatments, supplanting > > universities. Scores of people have died or been injured, the article > > said. > > > > ``Not only is this treatment of participating patients and their families > > alarming, but it also undermines the credibility of the pharmaceutical > > research and development process and places the value of new > > pharmaceutical products in question,'' Grassley, an Iowa Republican, wrote > > in a letter to the Health and Human Services Department's inspector > > general. > > > > Grassley said Inspector General Levinson should quickly compile a > > list of recommendations his office has made since 1995 and determine > > whether the appropriate agencies are heeding them. The agencies include > > HHS, the Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of > > Health. > > > > ``We must take every possible step to ensure that our clinical trial > > system is in fact the `gold standard' that we expect it to be,'' Grassley > > said. He asked for a briefing by Levinson's staff ``at the earliest > > opportunity.'' > > > > Tightening the Rules > > > > Grassley said Levinson's office should examine the role of so- called > > institutional review boards that oversee the tests, with an eye toward > > adopting tougher oversight. The largest, Western Institutional Review > > Board of Olympia, Washington, is a for-profit company that oversees 17,000 > > trials. > > > > Don White, a spokesman for Levinson, declined to say whether his boss has > > received the letter. ``We are aware of Chairman Grassley's great interest > > in this area,'' White said. ``We've obviously done work on this before and > > already have work plans for the future.'' > > > > While Grassley's committee doesn't have direct jurisdiction over the FDA, > > he said its oversight of Medicare and Medicaid makes him responsible for > > ensuring medicines are safe. Grassley last year began an investigation of > > the FDA's handling of drug- safety issues after the withdrawal of Merck & > > Co.'s Vioxx painkiller. > > > > Industry-Sponsored Tests > > > > University medical faculties conducted 80 percent of industry- sponsored > > drug tests in 1991, according to the New England Journal of Medicine. > > Today, more than 75 percent of trials are done in doctors' offices or > > private test centers such as those run by SFBC International Inc., > > according to CenterWatch, a Boston-based compiler of clinical trial data. > > > > In many cases, the people who volunteer for the drug trials are no longer > > protected by review boards at universities and now must rely on for-profit > > review boards. Drugmakers pay for both the private testers and the boards > > monitoring the trials, raising a potential conflict of interest, Grassley > > said. > > > > Citing the Bloomberg article, Grassley wrote that test participants aren't > > always adequately warned of the risks. > > > > ``Some are dying as a result of the trials,'' Grassley said. > > > > In Houston, the Fabre Research Clinic has been reviewed by an oversight > > company set up by Louis Fabre, the owner of the clinic. In Miami, SFBC > > International, which runs the largest private testing center in North > > America, has used a review company owned by the wife of an SFBC executive. > > > > Shares of Miami-based SFBC dropped 26 percent after the Bloomberg report > > was published Nov. 2. > > > > `Distortion of Our Work' > > > > SFBC Chairman Krinsky said last week the report was a ``severe > > distortion of our work.'' She said the company complies with all > > regulatory standards and never has been issued a warning letter by the FDA. > > > > A day after the Bloomberg report was published, Grassley said the FDA must > > do more to oversee clinical trials. In response to his comments, the FDA > > said last week in a statement that the agency ``is evolving our approach > > to clinical trial oversight. The protection of patients' rights is a > > fundamental focus.'' > > > > FDA spokeswoman Zawisza yesterday declined to comment on Grassley's > > letter, saying she hasn't seen it. > > > > ``We do take very seriously our responsibility to protect people involved > > in clinical trials,'' she said. > > > > The FDA also said it is examining its reporting rules and the other issues > > raised by the article. > > > > Laboratory Rats > > > > Because experiments on laboratory rats can't reliably predict how a > > chemical will affect people, human testing of new drugs is vital. Helped > > by extensive clinical trials, drugmakers have developed antibiotics > > capable of curing life-threatening infections and come up with > > revolutionary treatments for diseases like cancer and AIDS over the years. > > > > ``The vast majority of clinical trials conducted in the United States meet > > high ethical standards,'' the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of > > America, a Washington-based trade group, said last week in a written > > response to questions. ``The U.S. regulatory system is the world's gold > > standard, and the Food and Drug Administration has the best product-safety > > record.'' > > > > Ken , senior vice president for the trade group, said it would be > > inappropriate to provide detailed comments until the group reviews the > > practices in question. > > > > ``That review is now under way,'' he said. ``We are confident that our > > member companies are committed to conducting all clinical trials to the > > highest ethical standards.'' > > > > The organization's members include Pfizer Inc., Merck & Co. and & > > . > > > > To contact the reporters on this story: > > Hallam in Washington khallam@b... > > > > * * * * > > > > 3. Philadelphia Inquirer Examines Grassley Investigations of FDA ... > > According to the Inquirer , Grassley has said that pharmaceutical ... > > Grassley said, " If it looks like I am going after the pharmaceutical > > industry, ... > > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27012 > > > > 4. Sen. Grassley Calls for Investigation Into Reports That Drug ... Senate > > Finance Committee Chair Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday sent a letter to > > US ... according to some doctors and pharmaceutical company executives, > > ... > > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=28875 > > > > 5. United States Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa > > The pharmaceutical industry would no longer be able to gouge American ... > > the doors to competition in the global pharmaceutical industry, " Grassley > > said. ... > > http://grassley.senate.gov/index.cfm? 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Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Liz, My spirit is deeply, profoundly saddened by the realization that iatrogenic toxins and environmental toxins are allowed because they induce a wide array of " low level " illnesses whose symptoms enhance sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. I've come to accept that Andy Wakefield's primary heresy dwells in the fact that he has dared to call attention to a connection between MV, vaccinal MV, and a range of inflammatory bowel conditions. Thus, he has been forced from his position and from his home - because his daring to stand tall has called attention to a possible link between an iatrogenic procedure and the sale of OTCs and pharmaceuticals that mask the MV-induced symptoms. I've come to accept that the reason the CDC and others continue to allow thimerosal injections is because those injections induce symptoms that enhance the sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. The pharmcos, the families who own them, and the avaricious but kowtowing politicians (eg, Frist) understand these relationships and know that a growing number of people are realizing the thuggery that is called modern medical science. Emilia DeSanto was a perfect target. She had several decades of experience and chose to work for one of the Senate's decent individuals. If the bat connected with her skull once or more, she will suffer from long-term effects likely to impair her effectiveness. From a Fristian point of view, that damage is helpful, as is the lesson her beating provides to others who dare stand forth. * * * * , it occurred to me this morning, and I've no idea why it's taken my brain so long to figure this out, that insurance companies are also heavily invested in making sure that autism is not considered a treatable illness as well. What sorts of shenanigans do you suppose they've been up to? A bunch of thugs and cheats run this country. Liz * * * * >Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot-1-inch > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > object believed to be a baseball bat. " (1) > > * * * * > > 1. FBI called in on Hill > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > 1. http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110805/news1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 No doubt that the vast majority of people who work at Big Pharma are trying to do good. I would never imply otherwise. The greed and corruption is at the top, where there are big profits to be made. I don't think it's wise for us to get into lawsuits and the more tangential political aspects of this, as we definitely disagree and it's not the place for it. What's needed is to build bridges for curing autism. There are certainly areas of agreement that all of us can work with. The need to fix the whole vaccine process is one of them. Liz > > Reply-To: csb-autism-rx > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:14:19 -0000 > To: csb-autism-rx > Subject: Re: Senator Grassley aide attacked > > Liz, > > But at least they have a motive. Why are pediatricians so reluctant > to admit there are way to biomedically treat autism and other > developmental delays? You'd think they would want the extra > business! > > It breaks my heart when I read about all of the corruption out > there. I really hope that some of it is exaggerated. I have a > close relative who works for a pharmaceutical company, and it > disheartens me to hear so many people criticizing them all of the > time. I really do believe in the bottom of my heart that 99% of the > people in the pharmaco have good intentions. I think we need to > hope this is the case, and remember that there are people at these > companies devoting all of their time and effort and money to find > cures for horrible diseases and letting us all live longer and > healthier lives. They're out there right now looking for a way to > protect us all from this Avian Flu. But in the back of their minds, > they have to remember that even if their vaccine protects millions > from dying they will inevitably have to fight million-dollar law > suits because there will be some (hopefully) unforseen side effect. > > So they debate whether it is even in their best interests to save > millions of people... > > Is this really the world we want? Let's keep perspective on this, > please. Yes, I think that MMR and other vaccines are damaging our > children. Yes, it's a travesty. If there are people who are really > in on cover-up and are willfully neglecting the safety of our > children, those people need to be punished. But I'm not willing to > give up my doctors because of outrageous malpractice suits, I'm not > willing to live without my life-saving daily medications because > they've injured a few people, I'm not willing to go back in time and > take away the vaccines that have saved billions of lives. I want to > move forward. I want a less-litigious society, where a drug company > can publicly admit to a mistake as soon as it is found, can say > sorry and can be forgiven (no more cover-ups please!). I want to > keep believing that most people have good intentions. > > Sorry all of this just rolled out of me. It's not very eloquent, > but it's the way I feel. I know that a lot of you will have issues > with this. > > Kerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Liz, My spirit is deeply, profoundly saddened by the realization that iatrogenic toxins and environmental toxins are allowed because they induce a wide array of " low level " illnesses whose symptoms enhance sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. I've come to accept that Andy Wakefield's primary heresy dwells in the fact that he has dared to call attention to a connection between MV, vaccinal MV, and a range of inflammatory bowel conditions. Thus, he has been forced from his position and from his home - because his daring to stand tall has called attention to a possible link between an iatrogenic procedure and the sale of OTCs and pharmaceuticals that mask the MV-induced symptoms. I've come to accept that the reason the CDC and others continue to allow thimerosal injections is because those injections induce symptoms that enhance the sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. The pharmcos, the families who own them, and the avaricious but kowtowing politicians (eg, Frist) understand these relationships and know that a growing number of people are realizing the thuggery that is called modern medical science. Emilia DeSanto was a perfect target. She had several decades of experience and chose to work for one of the Senate's decent individuals. If the bat connected with her skull once or more, she will suffer from long-term effects likely to impair her effectiveness. >From a Fristian point of view, that damage is helpful, as is the lesson her beating provides to others who dare stand forth. * * * * , it occurred to me this morning, and I've no idea why it's taken my brain so long to figure this out, that insurance companies are also heavily invested in making sure that autism is not considered a treatable illness as well. What sorts of shenanigans do you suppose they've been up to? A bunch of thugs and cheats run this country. Liz * * * * >Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about > 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot-1-inch > white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified > object believed to be a baseball bat. " (1) > > * * * * > > 1. FBI called in on Hill > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > 1. http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110805/news1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Liz, My spirit is deeply, profoundly saddened by the realization that iatrogenic toxins and environmental toxins are allowed because they induce a wide array of " low level " illnesses whose symptoms enhance sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. I've come to accept that Andy Wakefield's primary heresy dwells in the fact that he has dared to call attention to a connection between MV, vaccinal MV, and a range of inflammatory bowel conditions. Thus, he has been forced from his position and from his home - because his daring to stand tall has called attention to a possible link between an iatrogenic procedure and the sale of OTCs and pharmaceuticals that mask the MV-induced symptoms. I've come to accept that the reason the CDC and others continue to allow thimerosal injections is because those injections induce symptoms that enhance the sales of OTCs and pharmaceutical meds. The pharmcos, the families who own them, and the avaricious but kowtowing politicians (eg, Frist) understand these relationships and know that a growing number of people are realizing the thuggery that is called modern medical science. Emilia DeSanto was a perfect target. She had several decades of experience and chose to work for one of the Senate's decent individuals. If the bat connected with her skull once or more, she will suffer from long-term effects likely to impair her effectiveness. From a Fristian point of view, that damage is helpful, as is the lesson her beating provides to others who dare stand forth. * * * * , it occurred to me this morning, and I've no idea why it's taken my brain so long to figure this out, that insurance companies are also heavily invested in making sure that autism is not considered a treatable illness as well. What sorts of shenanigans do you suppose they've been up to? A bunch of thugs and cheats run this country. Liz * * * * >Emilia DiSanto, chief investigator for committee Chairman Chuck Grassley > (R-Iowa), arrived at her suburban Virginia home after work Wednesday about 6:30 p.m. As she was unloading belongings from her car, a 6-foot-1-inch white man dressed in black struck her repeatedly with an unidentified object believed to be a baseball bat. " (1) > > * * * * > > 1. FBI called in on Hill > By Bob Cusack and Jackie Kucinich > 1. http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110805/news1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 When I had a physical for life ins. a few years ago a nurse came to my house. I saw her list a family history of mental illness because my dad suffers Alztheimers. I said that it was NOT a mental disease and a mercury problem, much like the problem many young kids are having[ I told her nothing about R.] She stated " they havent come out with that yet " The ins. industry does not want to pay for the pharma. industries blunders. I don't blame them.However, We need to force them to pay so they will give us all the data they have. When you hit people in the pocket, they co-operate. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Liz, You're right it's not the place. Sorry - I've just read one too many posts that imply the whole pharmaceutical industry is evil. And I also wanted to say that my post was not at all directed at you or your comments. Just the first paragraph. After that, I got off on a whole different topic. Didn't mean to imply that I was " arguing " with you or anything. Kerri > > No doubt that the vast majority of people who work at Big Pharma are trying > to do good. I would never imply otherwise. The greed and corruption is at > the top, where there are big profits to be made. > > I don't think it's wise for us to get into lawsuits and the more tangential > political aspects of this, as we definitely disagree and it's not the place > for it. What's needed is to build bridges for curing autism. There are > certainly areas of agreement that all of us can work with. > > The need to fix the whole vaccine process is one of them. > > Liz > > > From: " Jeff " <kerripat@c...> > > Reply-To: csb-autism-rx > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:14:19 -0000 > > To: csb-autism-rx > > Subject: Re: Senator Grassley aide attacked > > > > Liz, > > > > But at least they have a motive. Why are pediatricians so reluctant > > to admit there are way to biomedically treat autism and other > > developmental delays? You'd think they would want the extra > > business! > > > > It breaks my heart when I read about all of the corruption out > > there. I really hope that some of it is exaggerated. I have a > > close relative who works for a pharmaceutical company, and it > > disheartens me to hear so many people criticizing them all of the > > time. I really do believe in the bottom of my heart that 99% of the > > people in the pharmaco have good intentions. I think we need to > > hope this is the case, and remember that there are people at these > > companies devoting all of their time and effort and money to find > > cures for horrible diseases and letting us all live longer and > > healthier lives. They're out there right now looking for a way to > > protect us all from this Avian Flu. But in the back of their minds, > > they have to remember that even if their vaccine protects millions > > from dying they will inevitably have to fight million-dollar law > > suits because there will be some (hopefully) unforseen side effect. > > > > So they debate whether it is even in their best interests to save > > millions of people... > > > > Is this really the world we want? Let's keep perspective on this, > > please. Yes, I think that MMR and other vaccines are damaging our > > children. Yes, it's a travesty. If there are people who are really > > in on cover-up and are willfully neglecting the safety of our > > children, those people need to be punished. But I'm not willing to > > give up my doctors because of outrageous malpractice suits, I'm not > > willing to live without my life-saving daily medications because > > they've injured a few people, I'm not willing to go back in time and > > take away the vaccines that have saved billions of lives. I want to > > move forward. I want a less-litigious society, where a drug company > > can publicly admit to a mistake as soon as it is found, can say > > sorry and can be forgiven (no more cover-ups please!). I want to > > keep believing that most people have good intentions. > > > > Sorry all of this just rolled out of me. It's not very eloquent, > > but it's the way I feel. I know that a lot of you will have issues > > with this. > > > > Kerri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 No offense taken at all, nor apology necessary. I was mostly telling myself not to get into it, to be honest! It's sad that there are so many people who've been in the pharmecuetical industry for years who are leaving because they're disillusioned. Liz > Liz, > > You're right it's not the place. Sorry - I've just read one too > many posts that imply the whole pharmaceutical industry is evil. > > And I also wanted to say that my post was not at all directed at you > or your comments. Just the first paragraph. After that, I got off > on a whole different topic. Didn't mean to imply that I > was " arguing " with you or anything. > > Kerri > > > > > > No doubt that the vast majority of people who work at Big Pharma > are trying > > to do good. I would never imply otherwise. The greed and > corruption is at > > the top, where there are big profits to be made. > > > > I don't think it's wise for us to get into lawsuits and the more > tangential > > political aspects of this, as we definitely disagree and it's not > the place > > for it. What's needed is to build bridges for curing autism. There > are > > certainly areas of agreement that all of us can work with. > > > > The need to fix the whole vaccine process is one of them. > > > > Liz > > > > > From: " Jeff " <kerripat@c...> > > > Reply-To: csb-autism-rx > > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:14:19 -0000 > > > To: csb-autism-rx > > > Subject: Re: Senator Grassley aide attacked > > > > > > Liz, > > > > > > But at least they have a motive. Why are pediatricians so > reluctant > > > to admit there are way to biomedically treat autism and other > > > developmental delays? You'd think they would want the extra > > > business! > > > > > > It breaks my heart when I read about all of the corruption out > > > there. I really hope that some of it is exaggerated. I have a > > > close relative who works for a pharmaceutical company, and it > > > disheartens me to hear so many people criticizing them all of the > > > time. I really do believe in the bottom of my heart that 99% of > the > > > people in the pharmaco have good intentions. I think we need to > > > hope this is the case, and remember that there are people at > these > > > companies devoting all of their time and effort and money to find > > > cures for horrible diseases and letting us all live longer and > > > healthier lives. They're out there right now looking for a way > to > > > protect us all from this Avian Flu. But in the back of their > minds, > > > they have to remember that even if their vaccine protects > millions > > > from dying they will inevitably have to fight million-dollar law > > > suits because there will be some (hopefully) unforseen side > effect. > > > > > > So they debate whether it is even in their best interests to save > > > millions of people... > > > > > > Is this really the world we want? Let's keep perspective on > this, > > > please. Yes, I think that MMR and other vaccines are damaging > our > > > children. Yes, it's a travesty. If there are people who are > really > > > in on cover-up and are willfully neglecting the safety of our > > > children, those people need to be punished. But I'm not willing > to > > > give up my doctors because of outrageous malpractice suits, I'm > not > > > willing to live without my life-saving daily medications because > > > they've injured a few people, I'm not willing to go back in time > and > > > take away the vaccines that have saved billions of lives. I > want to > > > move forward. I want a less-litigious society, where a drug > company > > > can publicly admit to a mistake as soon as it is found, can say > > > sorry and can be forgiven (no more cover-ups please!). I want to > > > keep believing that most people have good intentions. > > > > > > Sorry all of this just rolled out of me. It's not very eloquent, > > > but it's the way I feel. I know that a lot of you will have > issues > > > with this. > > > > > > Kerri > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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