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U wrote " Is it meaningful to speak of the

existence of something that can't be apprehended?"

Indeed it is because by asking the question you get

that answer that u might have to use another

instrument to find the answer! Read the Jung quote

again: The longest journey many of us have to

travel is from the head to the heart.

This is why I chose to use the word apprehend - it

gives a choice of finding out imho........

at least that is what I was trying to say! I put

the emphasis on speaking, a mental pursuit.

Perhaps i should have said 'only' apprehended!

Guess at 88 1/2 I am truly gettin' addlepated!

Forgive me!

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ao

Got it, thanks.

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Apprehend is such a great word!

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apprehend, v.

Pronunciation:  /æprɪˈhɛnd/

Etymology:  < French appréhende-r (15th cent. in Godefroy), < Latin

app-, adprehend-ĕre... (Show More)

 I. Physical.

 a. To lay hold upon, seize, with hands, teeth, etc. Also said of

fire, andfig. of trembling, fear, etc. Obs. or arch.

1572    J. Bossewell Wks. Armorie iii. f. 5,   A great quakyng and

tremblyng dyd apprehende hys hande.

1607    E. Topsell Hist. Fovre-footed Beastes 156   His

dogs‥apprehending the garments of passengers.

1613    Life I in Harl. Misc. (1793) 28   A fire began‥which

apprehending certain shops and warehouses, etc.

c1643    Maximes Unf. 8   Fury and affrightment apprehend the desperate.

1645    S. Rutherford Tryal & Trivmph of Faith (1845) 63   A lame hand

that cannot apprehend.

1843    E.  Sensation & Event 122   While those two lips his brow

did apprehend.

Thesaurus »

†b. transf. To seize upon, take down, in writing. fig. To seize upon

(points of a subject). Obs.

1611    T. Coryate Crudities sig. Nn5v,   I apprehended it [sc. an

epitaph] with my pen while the Preacher was in his pulpit.

1615    T.  Spirituall Nauigator 24 in Blacke Devill,   I will

onely apprehend so much, as may serue to exemplifie this dangerous

world.

 2. To seize (a person) in name of law, to arrest.

1548    N. Udall et al. tr. Erasmus Paraphr. New Test. I. vii. 1

(R.)   To fynde sum occasion‥to attache and apprehende him.

1642    D.  Naaman 44   ‥going like a Pursivant‥to

Damascus,

to apprehend the Saints there.

1768    W. Blackstone Comm. Laws Eng. IV. 287   A justice of the peace

cannot issue a warrant to apprehend a felon upon bare suspicion.

1855    T. B. Macaulay Hist. Eng. III. 328   Troops had been sent to

apprehend him.

†3. To seize upon for one's own, take possession of. Also fig. Obs.

a1522    G.  tr. Virgil Æneid (1960) xi. vii. 70   Ellis

quhar‥forto wend, Thar duellyng place for ay to apprehend.

1611    Bible (A.V.) Phil. iii. 12   If that I may apprehend that for

which also I am apprehended of Christ Iesus.

1652    M. Nedham tr. J. Selden Of Dominion of Sea 21   That Vacancies

are his who apprehend's them first by occupation.

†4. To seize or embrace (an offer or opportunity).

1586    T. Bowes tr. P. de la Primaudaye French Acad. I. 805   If we

apprehend not that great grace and mercy of the father offered to all.

a1631    J. Donne Βιαθανατος (1647) ii. vi. §5   If he

apprehend not,

an opportunity to escape.

1633    Bp. J. Hall Plaine Explic. Hard Texts ii. 56   His faith,

whereby he did firmely apprehend the‥aid of his eternall Father.

 II. Mental.

†5. gen. To learn, gain practical acquaintance with. Also absol. (The

earliest use in English; cf. French apprendre.) Obs.

a1398    J. Trevisa tr. Bartholomaeus Anglicus De Proprietatibus Rerum

(BL Add. 27944) (1975) I. ii.ii. 61   He‥holdeth in mynde‥withoute

forȜeting alle þat he apprehendith.

1531    T. Elyot Bk. named Gouernour iii. xiii. sig. ciij,   Therby

they prouoke many men to apprehende vertue.

a1680    S.  Genuine Remains (1759) I. 204   Children‥Improve

their nat'ral Talents without Care, And apprehend, before they are

aware.

 6. To become or be conscious by the senses of (any external impression).

a1634    W. Austin Devotionis Augustinianae Flamma (1635) 60   When

this Light shone in darkenesse, and our darkenesse, though it

apprehended, yet it comprehended it not.

1651    T. Hobbes Leviathan iii. xxxiv. 212   That caused Agar

supernaturally to apprehend a voice from heaven.

1855    A. Bain Senses & Intellect ii. i. 369   If I see‥two candle

flames, I apprehend them as different objects.

†7. To feel emotionally, be sensible of, feel the force of. Obs.

1592    T. Nashe Pierce Penilesse (Brit. Libr. copy) sig. I,

The‥soules of them that haue no power to apprehend such felicitie.

1607    B. Jonson Volpone ii. i. 61   Dead. Lord! how deepely Sir you

apprehend it.

1670    I. Walton Lives,   That [kindness] was so gratefully

apprehended by M. Hooker.

 8. To lay hold of with the intellect:

 a. to perceive the existence of, recognize, see.

1577    T. Vautrollier tr. M. Luther Comm. Epist. to Galathians (new

ed.) f. 5,   Who so doth not understand or apprehend this

righteousness in afflictions and terrors of conscience.

1623    C.  Feminine Monarchie (rev. ed.) Pref. sig. A2,   There

is not halfe that worth in Mee, Which I haue apprehended in a Bee.

1743    J.  Serm. vii. 184   We shall apprehend reason to

conclude, that‥they were not so very young.

1872    R. Browning Fifine lxxi. 7   Each man‥avails him of what worth

He apprehends in you.

 b. to catch the meaning or idea of; to understand.

1631    T. Heywood Londons Jus Honorarium 279   As soone known as

showne, and apprehended as read.

1755    B.  Mag. Arts & Sci. i. xiii. 87   This is all so plain,

that I can't but apprehend it.

1849    T. B. Macaulay Hist. Eng. I. 463   The nature of the long

contest between the Stuarts and their parliaments, was indeed very

imperfectly apprehended by foreign statesmen.

1871    C. Davies Metric Syst. ii. 24   To apprehend distinctly the

signification of a number, two things are necessary.

 c. absol. or with subord. clause.

1600    Shakespeare Much Ado about Nothing ii. i. 73   Cosin you

apprehend passing shrewdly.

1655    T. Stanley Hist. Philos. I. i. 92   Periander‥immediately

apprehended that he advised him to put the most eminent in the City to

death.

1712    R. Steele Spectator No. 532. â‹2,   I cannot apprehend where

lyes the trifling in all this.

1785    T. Reid Ess. Intellect. Powers i. i,   No one can explain by a

Logical Definition what it is to think, to apprehend.

 9.

a. To understand (a thing to be so and so); to conceive, consider,

view, take (it) as.

1639    T. Fuller Hist. Holy Warre iv. ix. 183   They apprehended it a

great courtesie done unto them.

1736    J. Wesley Wks. (1830) I. 100,   I apprehended myself to be near

death.

1858    W. E. Gladstone Homer III. 393   The eternal laws, such as the

heroic age apprehended them.

b. absol. or with subord. clause.

1631    B. Jonson Bartholmew Fayre i. iv. 44 in Wks. II,   If hee

apprehend you flout him, once, he will flie at you.

1775    J. Lyon in J. Sparks Corr. Amer. Revol. (1853) I. 101,   I

apprehend that secrecy is as necessary now as ever it was.

1839    H. Hallam Introd. Lit. Europe iv. vi. 462   In general, I

apprehend, the later French critics, have given the preference to

Racine.

10. To anticipate, look forward to, expect (mostly things adverse).

a1616    Shakespeare Measure for Measure (1623) iv. ii. 144   A man

that apprehends death no more dreadfully, but as a drunken sleepe.

1749    H. Fielding Tom  I. iii. iii. 168   A triumphant

Question, to which he had apprehended no Answer.

1879    A. W. Tourgée Fool's Errand ii. 11   Love had taught her with

unerring accuracy to apprehend the evil which impended.

 11. To anticipate with fear or dread; to be fearful concerning; to fear.

Thesaurus »

 a. with obj.

1609    Shakespeare Troilus & Cressida iii. ii. 71   O let my Lady

apprehend no feare.

1643    Sir T. Browne Relig. Medici i. §54   Which makes me much

apprehend the ends of those honest Worthies.

1702    Eng. Theophrastus 53   He apprehends every breath of air as

much as if it were a Hurricane.

1832    H. eau Hill & Valley xiii. 125   No one‥could

think‥that

any further violence was to be apprehended.

 b. with subord. clause. To be apprehensive, to fear.

1740–61    M. Delany Autobiogr. & Corr. (1861) III. 210,   I don't

apprehend that even the Bath could hurt her.

1863    N. Hawthorne Our Old Home I. 193,   I sometimes apprehend that

our institutions may perish.

apprehend, v.

Second edition, 1989; online version June 2011.

<http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/9799>; accessed 29 June 2011. Earlier

version first published in New English Dictionary, 1885

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> U wrote " Is it meaningful to speak of the existence of something that can't

be apprehended? "

>

> Indeed it is because by asking the question you get that answer that u might

have to use another instrument to find the answer! Read the Jung quote again:

The longest journey many of us have to travel is from the head to the heart.

>

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