Re: Something for Dan *WEG*

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>Is this the brochure for heaven?

Only for you in this life. Beware the next one!

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>uhh, is there a URL associated with this article?>I see nothing but blank screen after the :

No URL. It was something that was synchronistically sent to me by my sister in an email. If you have your email set to not include imbedded pictures or something like that, that might be why you can't see anything.

Blissings,

Sam

Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung

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as far as a woman having to love a man to be whole. No more so than a man must love a woman.

Reminds me of the saying, "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." Whooo!

Blissings,

Sam

If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking. -- Denis WaitleyIt is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -- AristotleThe goal of an argument should be progress, not victory. -- Author unknownAccept complete responsibility both for understanding and for being understood. -- He's a blockhead who wants a proof of what he can't perceive; And he's a fool who tries to make such a blockhead believe. -- Blake

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( Ray just came in , looked over my shoulder and told me to cut it out and put it on the refrigerator) fat chance.

Toni

Priceless, Toni!!

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Dear Sam,

Is this the brochure for heaven?

Best,

Dan

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> Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 02:19:17 EST

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This is an actual 1955 Good Housekeeping article - 50 years ago...

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uhh, is there a URL associated with this article?

I see nothing but blank screen after the :

" This is an actual 1955 Good Housekeeping article - 50 years ago... "

peace,

tracy

((I know, there a " setting " somewhere that I don't

have " set " to view this sort of thing ... but it might

be easier to navigate to the " article " - address, if such

a thing exists))

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Dear Sam and Dan,

Not funny. This is what I was taught and i swallowed hook line and sinker.

I used to have a fit when the baby spit up on me, because i had just changed and made myself 'beautiful' for the returning hero who had been out in the cruel world. And then, I had to meet my master at the door smelly!!

Actually this is how my mother treated my father . We were not even allowed to read the evening paper before him so it would be pristine. And we had to "leave him in peace to read it.My father changed his own shoes,washed, took of his suit jacket and put on his "smoking jacket" before he settled down for the evening. My mother always dressed for dinner too, and so did I until I revolted.

Now about "master of the house...my father may have thought so, but I thought it was a toss-up.

Old it is, but that was the culture then. The infighting waited for later that night.

In my early marriage, I questioned, I disagreed if I felt like it, but never until after dinner was served. master of the house indeed....I did always allow him to think so when the kids were around or other people.

Quieting the kids ( three under three was never on the program And later the girls did take off his combat boots when he came back from flying. Didn't hurt them a bit.

Sure a good wife knows her place, right there next to him! The war taught women how to get along without the "man of the house". things were never the same after that.

Life has really been a change for us who grew up in the 40's.

Dan, don't you wish we could go back there? HA. And as far as a woman having to love a man to be whole. No more so than a man must love a woman. Without love, no one is whole.

This is all some fairytale if you actually imagine peace and joy were in every house just because the "wife knew her place" Ever heard of the "fifth column"? Not only in war, but even in the family.

I do agree though that important decisions have to hammered out alone, to keep a united front for the kids. No playing one off against the other. And it is easier to say "father knows best in that case. But I will be heard first.

Neither my father, grandfather or husband ever complained about a "boring day" Now talking to small children all day......

A wife has every right to question her husband . What nonsense is that. The 40's weren't n days.

The real man learned to change with the times as did his wife.

( Ray just came in , looked over my shoulder and told me to cut it out and put it on the refrigerator) fat chance.

Toni

Something for Dan *WEG*

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This is an actual 1955 Good Housekeeping article - 50 years ago...

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Dear Toni,

Not funny? Wasn't joking.

Things were pretty bad, yes, they always are, but sometimes worse than others.

Best,

Dan

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Dear Sam and Dan,

Not funny. This is what I was taught and i swallowed hook line and sinker.

I used to have a fit when the baby spit up on me, because i had just changed and made myself 'beautiful' for the returning hero who had been out in the cruel world. And then, I had to meet my master at the door smelly!!

Actually this is how my mother treated my father . We were not even allowed to read the evening paper before him so it would be pristine. And we had to "leave him in peace to read it.My father changed his own shoes,washed, took of his suit jacket and put on his "smoking jacket" before he settled down for the evening. My mother always dressed for dinner too, and so did I until I revolted.

Now about "master of the house...my father may have thought so, but I thought it was a toss-up.

Old it is, but that was the culture then. The infighting waited for later that night.

In my early marriage, I questioned, I disagreed if I felt like it, but never until after dinner was served. master of the house indeed....I did always allow him to think so when the kids were around or other people.

Quieting the kids ( three under three was never on the program And later the girls did take off his combat boots when he came back from flying. Didn't hurt them a bit.

Sure a good wife knows her place, right there next to him! The war taught women how to get along without the "man of the house". things were never the same after that.

Life has really been a change for us who grew up in the 40's.

Dan, don't you wish we could go back there? HA. And as far as a woman having to love a man to be whole. No more so than a man must love a woman. Without love, no one is whole.

This is all some fairytale if you actually imagine peace and joy were in every house just because the "wife knew her place" Ever heard of the "fifth column"? Not only in war, but even in the family.

I do agree though that important decisions have to hammered out alone, to keep a united front for the kids. No playing one off against the other. And it is easier to say "father knows best in that case. But I will be heard first.

Neither my father, grandfather or husband ever complained about a "boring day" Now talking to small children all day......

A wife has every right to question her husband . What nonsense is that. The 40's weren't n days.

The real man learned to change with the times as did his wife.

( Ray just came in , looked over my shoulder and told me to cut it out and put it on the refrigerator) fat chance.

Toni

Something for Dan *WEG*

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This is an actual 1955 Good Housekeeping article - 50 years ago...

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Hi Guys,

Could you PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE delete all but essentials when replying to a message? This thing Sam sent takes forever to download (OK, I have a slow computer, this may be rectified in the not-too-distant future) - and at least 3 of you have sent it back, complete with headers, footers and everyone else's "me-too's". May I remind you that in Europe we pay PER MINUTE for online time?

Thank you

fa

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Dear Dan,

Dan, it was 'funny peculiar", not" funny ha ha," and I referred to myself not you.

You weren't but I was being ironic because women nowadays think my generation of women were nuts...sometimes it looks like we were. The idea of the male as "lord and master" doesn't strike your funny bone or your sense of irony ?. You disappoint me. Maybe you would like the Japanese custom better? In those days wives had to kneel and bow when their husband's came home. They served dinner but were not allowed to eat until the man was finished.

How do I know this is true? A lovely old Japanese lady, the widow of a physician explained it to me, at dinner, while she served her adult son, his French wife and us...and wouldn't eat with us...in 1967!!!( The professor' (Mejii University) was married, is married to a French cousin of mine who met her husband in Europe and married him ( before she ever got to Tokyo...what a cultural shock that was for her!) The French were never that nuts..about their husbands. She also became a university professor there( Tokyo) and still had to kow tow to him!!!! in 1967. ( Macarthur didn't change as much as he thought of the Japanese culture)

You live at the wrong time, my friend and/or in the wrong place.

Toni

Something for Dan *WEG*

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This is an actual 1955 Good Housekeeping article - 50 years ago...

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Dear fa,

I am guilty, I think. Sorry. It won't happen again. But we must have some clue so the receiver of the answer will know what it referred to.

much love,I hope this doesn't take more than a minute.

Toni

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From: fa

Hi Guys,

Could you PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE delete all but essentials when replying to a message? This thing Sam sent takes forever to download (OK, I have a slow computer, this may be rectified in the not-too-distant future) - and at least 3 of you have sent it back, complete with headers, footers and everyone else's "me-too's". May I remind you that in Europe we pay PER MINUTE for online time?

Thank you

fa