Re: Pain Meds - What Works???

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

It is all very variable on the individual > some people react well to

opiates while others do not. Opiates will give you an eventual tolerance and

people become dependent on opiates but this is not the same as addiction. As to

whether it is a normal reaction or not depends o whether it worked or not

for you. You may need to take more if they work with your meds until your body

is used to this amount or you may need a lower dose or a milder opiate. Maybe

you do not need any narcotic at all. Do not be afraid to discuss this with

your doctor.

Hope this helps. I had to turn to opiates years ago and am now on a high

dosage of a 12 hour very potent opiate. Some of these meds like Duragesic

patches or Oxycontin 12 hour time released doses are for opiate tolerant

patients.

Percocet is a prn med ( for 4-6 hours but may be too strong a choice, you

may react better on a hydrocodeine like Lorcet or Lortab ( which come in 5. 7.5

and 10 milligrams) or even with a tylenol with codeine. Or you may not be an

opiate tolerant person at all. Yes it is hit or miss unfortunately. Keep the

hope up and all I can say is that it is better to live pain free than to be

in needless pain. Many people fear becoming dependent but diabetics are

dependent on insulin and if you have a thyroid problem you also need daily meds

(

both autoimmune diseases in nature, ironically so do not let a social stigma

alone keep you in pain.

Peace,

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

It is all very variable on the individual > some people react well to

opiates while others do not. Opiates will give you an eventual tolerance and

people become dependent on opiates but this is not the same as addiction. As to

whether it is a normal reaction or not depends o whether it worked or not

for you. You may need to take more if they work with your meds until your body

is used to this amount or you may need a lower dose or a milder opiate. Maybe

you do not need any narcotic at all. Do not be afraid to discuss this with

your doctor.

Hope this helps. I had to turn to opiates years ago and am now on a high

dosage of a 12 hour very potent opiate. Some of these meds like Duragesic

patches or Oxycontin 12 hour time released doses are for opiate tolerant

patients.

Percocet is a prn med ( for 4-6 hours but may be too strong a choice, you

may react better on a hydrocodeine like Lorcet or Lortab ( which come in 5. 7.5

and 10 milligrams) or even with a tylenol with codeine. Or you may not be an

opiate tolerant person at all. Yes it is hit or miss unfortunately. Keep the

hope up and all I can say is that it is better to live pain free than to be

in needless pain. Many people fear becoming dependent but diabetics are

dependent on insulin and if you have a thyroid problem you also need daily meds

(

both autoimmune diseases in nature, ironically so do not let a social stigma

alone keep you in pain.

Peace,

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

,

I don't have RA, but do have a great deal of pain similar to it from

Dercum's Disease and Fibro. I take Ultram as needed, which is

usually 2 tablets at dinner and 2 tablets at bedtime. I also take

Diclofenac as an anti-inflammatory, and Remeron which helps me

sleep. I started running a fever yesterday afternoon, but right

after I took the Diclofenac at dinner and the Ultram, I started

feeling better, and actually felt good enough to play with our

grandchildren for awhile last night (a 5-year old and 2-year old

triplets.) Of course, I'm sore this morning, but it was worth it!

I understand your frustration as it took several tries before we

found the right combination for me. I can't take anything with

codeine in it either, and had an allergic reaction to Bextra.

I hope you can get some relief soon,

Judi

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I don't have RA, but do have a great deal of pain similar to it from

Dercum's Disease and Fibro. I take Ultram as needed, which is

usually 2 tablets at dinner and 2 tablets at bedtime. I also take

Diclofenac as an anti-inflammatory, and Remeron which helps me

sleep. I started running a fever yesterday afternoon, but right

after I took the Diclofenac at dinner and the Ultram, I started

feeling better, and actually felt good enough to play with our

grandchildren for awhile last night (a 5-year old and 2-year old

triplets.) Of course, I'm sore this morning, but it was worth it!

I understand your frustration as it took several tries before we

found the right combination for me. I can't take anything with

codeine in it either, and had an allergic reaction to Bextra.

I hope you can get some relief soon,

Judi

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

With narcotics, especially short-acting formulations, the " start low, go

slow " motto applies. You can try splitting the pill and spreading out the

time in-between doses, and, often, you will get used to it. But, typically,

for chronic pain, sustained-release formulations (like OxyContin or the

Duragesic patch) are better than short-acting meds like Percocet.

If you need round-the-clock-relief, sustained-release meds will usually be

more convenient and more effective. You'll achieve a steady-state of the

drug in your system rather than the highs and lows of a short-acting med.

You can use the short-acting med for breakthrough pain.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Pain Meds - What Works???

>

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control, and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I was prescribed Tylenol

> 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I took one pill at

> midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a " normal " reaction or if

> it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

With narcotics, especially short-acting formulations, the " start low, go

slow " motto applies. You can try splitting the pill and spreading out the

time in-between doses, and, often, you will get used to it. But, typically,

for chronic pain, sustained-release formulations (like OxyContin or the

Duragesic patch) are better than short-acting meds like Percocet.

If you need round-the-clock-relief, sustained-release meds will usually be

more convenient and more effective. You'll achieve a steady-state of the

drug in your system rather than the highs and lows of a short-acting med.

You can use the short-acting med for breakthrough pain.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Pain Meds - What Works???

>

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control, and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I was prescribed Tylenol

> 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I took one pill at

> midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a " normal " reaction or if

> it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I take an anti-inflammatory........not sure which one

as I am on a drug study and I take Darvocet for

pain.......i know alot of people says it does nothing

for them but for the most part, it does help me.

There are days that nothing seems to help

tho..........I do think Percocet does have than

hangover type feeling.........codeine affects me that

way...........

anyway good luck with the meds and hope you will be

feeling better soon

Hugs

Pat

--- ltlmisscrankypants

<ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control,

> and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug

> combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I

> was prescribed Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver

> spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a

> prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I

> took one pill at midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt

> like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a

> bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of

> taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a

> " normal " reaction or if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain

> management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the

> right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi :

I take an anti-inflammatory........not sure which one

as I am on a drug study and I take Darvocet for

pain.......i know alot of people says it does nothing

for them but for the most part, it does help me.

There are days that nothing seems to help

tho..........I do think Percocet does have than

hangover type feeling.........codeine affects me that

way...........

anyway good luck with the meds and hope you will be

feeling better soon

Hugs

Pat

--- ltlmisscrankypants

<ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control,

> and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug

> combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I

> was prescribed Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver

> spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a

> prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I

> took one pill at midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt

> like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a

> bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of

> taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a

> " normal " reaction or if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain

> management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the

> right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I hope that you get some relief soon,

hugs Tawny

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control, and am still

having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug combination 3 weeks

ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I was prescribed

Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver spasm reaction to

them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a prescription for

Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I took one pill at

midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt like I was hung-

over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a bite to eat

with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of taking another dose

of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a " normal " reaction or

if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the right

combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I hope that you get some relief soon,

hugs Tawny

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control, and am still

having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug combination 3 weeks

ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I was prescribed

Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver spasm reaction to

them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a prescription for

Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I took one pill at

midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt like I was hung-

over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a bite to eat

with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of taking another dose

of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a " normal " reaction or

if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the right

combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I am sorry you are in so much pain right now. I have

RA and Fibro, and for pain, I take Ultracet, usually

one or two in the morning and two at night, and then

during the night also if needed. It does not take

away the pain, but does take the edge off so I can

function. There are times when I think I need

something stronger, but until I really do, I am going

to stick with the Ultracet. Also, sometimes just

being able to get a good night's sleep can do a lot of

the pain level, and maybe you can discuss a light

sleeping aid with your doctor too. I take Trazadone,

and have also taken Elavil in the past, and this helps

me to get to sleep. I sometimes wake up with pain and

have to take Ultracet, but on the whole I am able to

return to sleep fairly soon. Let us know how you are

doing - take care - hope this helps

Kathe in CA

--- ltlmisscrankypants

<ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control,

> and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug

> combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I

> was prescribed Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver

> spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a

> prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I

> took one pill at midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt

> like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a

> bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of

> taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a

> " normal " reaction or if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain

> management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the

> right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi :

I am sorry you are in so much pain right now. I have

RA and Fibro, and for pain, I take Ultracet, usually

one or two in the morning and two at night, and then

during the night also if needed. It does not take

away the pain, but does take the edge off so I can

function. There are times when I think I need

something stronger, but until I really do, I am going

to stick with the Ultracet. Also, sometimes just

being able to get a good night's sleep can do a lot of

the pain level, and maybe you can discuss a light

sleeping aid with your doctor too. I take Trazadone,

and have also taken Elavil in the past, and this helps

me to get to sleep. I sometimes wake up with pain and

have to take Ultracet, but on the whole I am able to

return to sleep fairly soon. Let us know how you are

doing - take care - hope this helps

Kathe in CA

--- ltlmisscrankypants

<ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am totally frustrated!

>

> I desperately am trying to get my RA under control,

> and am still having

> quite a bit of pain. I started on a new drug

> combination 3 weeks ago,

> and am still waiting for it to take full effect. I

> was prescribed Tylenol 3's

> with Codeine for pain, but had a bile duct/liver

> spasm reaction to them

> and cannot take them anymore. I received a

> prescription for Percocet

> yesterday, and took my first dose last night. I

> took one pill at midnight,

> and was still laying in bed at 3pm today. I felt

> like I was hung-over and

> other than getting up to use the bathroom and have a

> bite to eat with

> my meds, couldn't think clearly. I am leary of

> taking another dose of

> the Percocet because I don't know if this is a

> " normal " reaction or if it's

> just that I am not used to taking it.

>

> What do most of you take for your RA pain

> management? I am finding

> that it's hit and miss with the meds. Finding the

> right combination is

> tricky and can take some time.

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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