Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Hi. Yup, that was me smiles. An a1c of 6 to 7 over time will cause diabetic complications. To look at this for a minute. An a1c of 5 means that the person's average bgs is 100 which in itself is elevated in theory. Elevated bgs levels lead to diabetic complications destroying the heart, kidneys, legs, eyes, etc. this is fact in all research. Certainly it could take 5, 10, 15, or 20 years YMMV but the fact is, it will cause them eventually. Some sooner, some late, some never (person may die naturally prior to the effects of the high bgs). However, that is a risk the diabetic should not fool with. It's like smoking cigarrettes... you could smoke 5 years, get cancer, or smoke your whole life and never get it YMMV. This is why folks shouldn't play around with smoking, you just don't know. It's better to be cautious. This is how it is with a1c readings from 6 to 7. and a1c of 6 to 7 means that a persons average bgs is 140 (think it was) or higher. There is a scale to determine a person's average bgs reading based on their a1c and will get that posted soon. carb intake and a1c > someone wrote: > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > 5.8 > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is the > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, the > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > xv > ic|xc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 You're right, Dumfy. However, if you run a A1C of 5.5 your average daily blood sugar is 90, according to all medical resources. So if you run a A1C of 6.0 your average dail BS is 130-so yu see how the h igher the A1C, the higher the average A1C. carb intake and a1c someone wrote: patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of 5.8 to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is the key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, the type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is making best use of it, and many other possible factors. xv ic|xc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 ok folks. here is the chart I finally tracked down listing what an a1c reading tells as your average bgs. You may want to hold onto thsi info: 13 330 (380) 12 300 (345) 11 270 (310) 10 240 (275) 9 210 (240) 8 180 (205) 7 150 (170) 6 120 (135) 5 90 (100) 4 60 ( 65) BTW the average bgs reading of a normal human is 82 to 83. carb intake and a1c > > > someone wrote: > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > 5.8 > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is the > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, the > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > xv > ic|xc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Thanks, . Where did you get this info? Re: carb intake and a1c ok folks. here is the chart I finally tracked down listing what an a1c reading tells as your average bgs. You may want to hold onto thsi info: 13 330 (380) 12 300 (345) 11 270 (310) 10 240 (275) 9 210 (240) 8 180 (205) 7 150 (170) 6 120 (135) 5 90 (100) 4 60 ( 65) BTW the average bgs reading of a normal human is 82 to 83. carb intake and a1c > > > someone wrote: > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > 5.8 > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is the > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, the > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > xv > ic|xc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 From a diabetic educator/endo. carb intake and a1c > > > > > > someone wrote: > > > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > > 5.8 > > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is > the > > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, > the > > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > > > xv > > ic|xc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 It might be helpful to read this one again! carb intake and a1c > > > > someone wrote: > > > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > > 5.8 > > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is > the > > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, > the > > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > > > xv > > ic|xc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 I recommend you save this message for future reference! carb intake and a1c > > > > > > someone wrote: > > > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > > 5.8 > > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level problems > > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is > the > > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, > the > > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > > > xv > > ic|xc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 what's the formular for converting all of this into imperial measurements? Have''' a nice day. and stay away from girls who serve French champagne! carb intake and a1c > > > > > > > someone wrote: > > > > > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. Those > > > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages of > > > 5.8 > > > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > > > > > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level > problems > > > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, is > > the > > > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is a > > > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat a > > > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on exercise, > > the > > > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one is > > > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > > > > > xv > > > ic|xc > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 I do not know the formula, but if one is good at mathematics and algebra, I think one could be devised, since the chart below reflects actual glucose readings on a daily basis, I think, with obtained A1C readings on a three month basis. In other words the chart reflects field studies of actual data about real people with glucose readings and A1C readings. It is apparent from looking at the chart that the relationship of A1C readings and glucose levels is not a strictly linear one, but one that some some variability acording to the ranges reported. carb intake and a1c > > > > > > > > > > someone wrote: > > > > > > > > patients run a1c of 4.2 to 5.0 which is what a normal human runs. > Those > > > > using a modified Atkins/Bernstein approach typically run a1c averages > of > > > > 5.8 > > > > to 6.8 which over time, will lead to diabetic complications. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know this and especially how do you know at what level > > problems > > > > will surely appear? The level of glycation, which the a1c measures, > is > > > the > > > > key; especially what prevents it and promotes it's reversal. There is > a > > > > great range in responces to carbs, especially for the t2. One can eat > a > > > > higher level and still have an a1c below 5, it all depends on > exercise, > > > the > > > > type of carbs, the amount of insulin production remaining and how one > is > > > > making best use of it, and many other possible factors. > > > > > > > > xv > > > > ic|xc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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