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Hi ,

I'm one who has gotten 'cured'. YIPPEE! I've been absolutely pain free

for the past 5-6 months.

I tried everything imaginable over a 10 year course. You name it, I've

done it.

what worked for me finally was using the Estrace (Estradiol) and not the

Premarin,(CCE) tho I hear some of the gals say it helps. (both are

considered Estrogens, tho made up of different 'types' of estrogen. I

definitely prefer the Estrace, but that's me... haha..

I also added a Testosterone cream This took a total time frame of about

6 months, but WORKED for me and that (T) with the Estrace, totally

rebuilt the tissue. sorry gals, but I feel like I'm repeating myself so

often, but I guess we always have 'newbies' who aren't aware. Hope this

helps.

I probably went thru about 8-10 doctors, and I basically ended up

telling my gyne.doctor what " I " wanted to try and he went along with it,

the dermatologist just kept saying yeast, but I honestly feel that was

secondary and the treatments for yeast just aggravated the initial

condition. One of those things where the cure is worse than the

disease. ha ha..

Personally I'm scared to death of Steroids, that's what really did me

in, but it was definitely a case of overuse for me. Tho there is

definitely a place for them for short term.

I've never heard of Betameth??? and from what I've heard via the list

is that the Crisco is great for pain relief, tho I've never tried it. I

have used the s baby diaper rash cream though and it did give

some good relief for a flare up, it does have zinc in it which is good

for skin healing. anyway, my .02 cents worth. Warmest, Dee~

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Hi ,

I'm using Temovate and Premarin in the morning, and at night I use the

Temovate and a compounded 2% Testosterone cream. Tomorrow I will be

replacing the Premarin with the compounded .01% Estradiol beta 17 cream.

I've used the Temovate for only two days now, and it's not causing the

severe burning that the steroid cream Psorcon caused me. I will be using

the Temovate for five more days, for a total of two weeks on steroid cream.

Eventually, I will be on a maintenance dosage of Estradiol and Testosterone.

I've only just started these creams, so I don't know yet how they will work

for me. I'm the one who was diagnosed by a dermatologist after my OBGYN,

nurse practitioner, and urologist all said in error that I didn't have LS

because it wasn't white. My dermatologist said it looks like a classic

case, but I have not had a biopsy to confirm this.

Take Care,

McConkey

QUESTIONS

> From: cmyers@...

>

> For those of you with Lichen - what have you

> tried?

>

> What works for you....and what doesn't?

>

> Have you been able to clear it up and stop

> treatment?

>

> Are you treated by a dermatologist or other doc?

>

> I'm trying to compile a list of options before

> I agree to a treatment! I was diagnosed with

> Lichen Simplex by my GYN (biopsy). At times

> it has almost disappeared....now its at its worst

> We've tried Betameth (sp?) creme and vaseline

> and crisco.....now she gave me Premarin

> (o.625 mg) Vaginal Creme but I haven't talked

> myself into trying it yet!

>

> cmyers@...

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  • 6 years later...

I really don't buy the few months opinion. I don't feel bad other

than some pain.

---

Manley

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page

http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html

Jim Manley's Photo Retouching Page

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> there are many possibilities for cancers like yours.

>

> If one thing doesn't work you just need to try another. No reason to

> give up.

>

> If you only have a few months I would think that you should be

> making a

> list of all the things you want to do before you die and then check

> them off as you get them done. I just bought a kayak so I could use it

> before I got too old and sore to take it to the river and paddle.

> It is

> great and I actually feel better after I go out. Tired but happy.

>

> What have you been putting off doing? Now is the time. Do it?

>

> Kathy Meade

>

> > --- Re: Questions

> >

> > Date: Wed, August 23, 2006 4:16 pm

> > To: ProstateCancerSupport

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I hear all these stories about people with high PSAs & mine was only

> > 7 but my cancer is very advanced (5+4=9). It seems that my PSA

> should

> > be a lot higher.

> >

> > My doc said that if my cancer responds to treatment I might have 6

> > years. If it doesn't then he said a few months. Other than pain once

> > in a while I feel fine. If I am going to die in a few months it

> seems

> > like I should be slowing down & feeling sick or something.

> >

> > BTW, I am taking Cassodex (50 mg). The internet says I should take

> > 150 & start the shots at the same time. I am confused by what my

> > doctor is doing.

> >

> > Any opinions as to how good Cassodex is?

> > ---

> > Manley

> > Albuquerque, New Mexico

> >

> > Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page

> > http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html

> >

> > Jim Manley's Photo Retouching Page

> > http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley

> >

> >

> >

> > > I was diagnosed in Feb 2005, PSA 220, Gleasons 8/7

> > > Went on Lupron/Casodex and my scores decreased to below 1

> > > After 6 months they began increasing again, dropped Casodex,

> they went

> > > down for 4 months. Went back on Casodex, back up to 54.

> > >

> > > My Oncologist is recommeding Taxotere/Predisone to begin Spetember

> > > 5th.

> > >

> > > Thougths?

> > >

> > > www.flhw.org

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I would like to tell you a little true story.

Several years ago a light aircraft ditched in the Irish sea, a wild sea at the best of times. Of course a Mayday was sent and one of the passengers crawled out onto a wing tip.

This type of aircraft would normally sink within ten minutes at the most but it was two hours before a search aircraft arrived and winched the surviving passenger to safety. The plane sank a minute later.

I see two things in this account.

First, never give up and second you aint going nowhere till your time is up.

Enjoy the rest of your life.

Larry

I really don't buy the few months opinion. I don't feel bad other than some pain.--- ManleyAlbuquerque, New MexicoJim Manley's Photoshop Elements Pagehttp://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.htmlJim Manley's Photo Retouching Pagehttp://web.mac.com/jamespmanley

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Very good Larry. I see your point.

I am praying that the Lord Jesus will heal me.

---

Manley

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page

http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html

Jim Manley's Photo Retouching Page

http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley

> Hi ,

> I would like to tell you a little true story.

> Several years ago a light aircraft ditched in the Irish sea, a wild

> sea at the best of times. Of course a Mayday was sent and one of

> the passengers crawled out onto a wing tip.

> This type of aircraft would normally sink within ten minutes at the

> most but it was two hours before a search aircraft arrived and

> winched the surviving passenger to safety. The plane sank a minute

> later.

> I see two things in this account.

> First, never give up and second you aint going nowhere till your

> time is up.

> Enjoy the rest of your life.

>

> Larry

>

> In a message dated 24/08/2006 04:28:14 GMT Standard Time,

> listmonger@... writes:

> I really don't buy the few months opinion. I don't feel bad other

> than some pain.

> ---

> Manley

> Albuquerque, New Mexico

>

> Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page

> http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html

>

> Jim Manley's Photo Retouching Page

> http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley

>

>

>

>

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  • 4 weeks later...

I need some info on my dad. He has been going for test

and we just

found out on friday he has prostate cancer. He is in

stage 4, 70 years

old. He has been losing alot of weight. The cancer has

spread through

his entire bones includin skull, back, pelvic, head,

shoulders and

basically all over. He had 14 biopsies done and 3 came

back

cancerous. His psa count is 450. So the doctor told

him the only

options he has is the hormone shot and pill everyday.

Which is a 50/50

chance and if that does not work then it will have to

be chemo which

will destroy his body. The dr said if he opted for no

treatment he has

about 6 months. The doctor said he has widespread

skeletal metastases

all due from prostate. The question we have now is

will this hormone

procedure work or not. What do you think his overall

chances are if

any. I see him in so much pain and alls he wants to do

is sleep.

Please help me with any info anyone can supply. Thank

you very much. Also I would like to add about 2 years

ago he had a heart attack and a stenth put in. He has

been fine up until this prostate thing.

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So sorry to hear about your father. I am

not in any position to give you any advice on how best to proceed, and there

are very few men with advanced prostate cancer who post on this List, although

Donna Pogliano posted a very good piece of advice to a member battling advanced

disease yesterday – have a look at her message ( go to message 9184 at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ProstateCancerSupport/messages)

There are also Mailing

Lists where the focus is on advanced prostate cancer and hormone therapies and

I know that the men on those sites will help you all they can. You might

join http://www.prostatepointers.org/mailman/listinfo/chb

a List where men discuss hormone blockade options and http://www.groups.prostate-help.org/grsubsc.htm where you will see that

there is a specific List for men with Advanced Disease.

Below are some links for

men with advanced disease you might find helpful

http://prostate-cancer.org/resource/advancedprostatecancerhandbook.html

This is an excellent handbook that you can order free of charge entitled Living with Advanced Prostate Cancer

When PSA Rises During Hormone Therapy

http://www.ustoo.com/Experienced_Relapse.asp

One of the US-TOO sites which also has excellent advice on pain management

http://patient.cancerconsultants.com/prostate_cancer_news.aspx?id=32365

Details of a chemotherapy treatment with Taxotere that has proved a useful

management tool

I hope this helps some. Please don’t

think that all is lost. There is a wonderful man by the name of Ric Masten who

is in his eight year of treatment following a very bad diagnosis of advanced

prostate cancer. His battle is graphically described in his website at http://www.ric-masten.net/Prostate.Series.html

All the best,

Terry

Herbert in Melbourne, Australia

Diagnosed ‘96: Age

54: Stage T2b: PSA 7.2: Gleason 3+3=6: No treatment. August '06 PSA 27.4

My site is at www.yananow.net

As a

physician, I am painfully aware that most of the decisions we make with regard

to prostate cancer are made with inadequate data: Dr

“Snuffy” Myers.

From: ProstateCancerSupport

[mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ]

On Behalf Of phil ballard jr

Sent: 20 September 2006 04:36 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: questions

I need

some info on my dad. He has been going for test

and we just

found out on friday he has prostate cancer. He is in

stage 4, 70 years

old. He has been losing alot of weight. The cancer has

spread through

his entire bones includin skull, back, pelvic, head,

shoulders and

basically all over. He had 14 biopsies done and 3 came

back

cancerous. His psa count is 450. So the doctor told

him the only

options he has is the hormone shot and pill everyday.

Which is a 50/50

chance and if that does not work then it will have to

be chemo which

will destroy his body. The dr said if he opted for no

treatment he has

about 6 months. The doctor said he has widespread

skeletal metastases

all due from prostate. The question we have now is

will this hormone

procedure work or not. What do you think his overall

chances are if

any. I see him in so much pain and alls he wants to do

is sleep.

Please help me with any info anyone can supply. Thank

you very much. Also I would like to add about 2 years

ago he had a heart attack and a stenth put in. He has

been fine up until this prostate thing.

__________________________________________________

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I am advanced with Gleason 9 & I am getting the shot & Casodex.

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God's Plan for Salvation

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I am 58 years old, PSA 7.4, diagnosed 8-9-06

Gleason 5+4=9, hasn't gone into the bone yet,

has spread to lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex

pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that the

Lord Jesus Christ (GOD) will heal me as a testimony

to his love. 2 Chronicles 20

> So sorry to hear about your father. I am not in any position to

> give you any advice on how best to proceed, and there are very few

> men with advanced prostate cancer who post on this List, although

> Donna Pogliano posted a very good piece of advice to a member

> battling advanced disease yesterday – have a look at her message

> ( go to message 9184 at

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