RE: Steve Autonomic Neuropathy

[Guest guest]

Hi, ui have always been Type 2, but that doesn't mean that I'm now not Type 1.

I'm awaiting an appointment with a specialist, whilst contemplating alternative

medicine. It would be nice if you could give me some ideas about mels, about

mels, although alternatively any internet sites where I can read about meals etc

would be fine.

Cheers, Steve

> steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>Hi Steve.

>I'm looking up an article on this form of Neuropathy. One thing for certain

>though, as I am trying to research this, it is a form of a Neuropathy and

>the best treatment for any form of Neuropathy is very tight bgs control. If

>you have a form of a Neuropathy, I am assuming you are type 1? but could be

>wrong on that assumption. If you are type 1, your target range prior to a

>meal should be 90 and 2 hours past your meal you should be back to 90. This

>could reverse the Neuropathy entirely in 2 to 3 months if you stick to your

>guns. If you want some help fine tuning your meals to accomplish this task,

>just let me know. Dr. Bernstein has so many patients that had severe

>Neuropathy and it reversed in 3 months by following the 90 bgs prior to

>meal and 90 bgs 2 hours past meal approach. That narrow of a margin limits

>all diabetic complications to the point of almost not having any.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Steve.

What is your bgs running? How often do you check them? What was your last

a1c? Lets start there.

steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>

> >Hi Steve.

>

> >I'm looking up an article on this form of Neuropathy. One thing for

certain

> >though, as I am trying to research this, it is a form of a Neuropathy and

> >the best treatment for any form of Neuropathy is very tight bgs control.

If

> >you have a form of a Neuropathy, I am assuming you are type 1? but could

be

> >wrong on that assumption. If you are type 1, your target range prior to a

> >meal should be 90 and 2 hours past your meal you should be back to 90.

This

> >could reverse the Neuropathy entirely in 2 to 3 months if you stick to

your

> >guns. If you want some help fine tuning your meals to accomplish this

task,

> >just let me know. Dr. Bernstein has so many patients that had severe

> >Neuropathy and it reversed in 3 months by following the 90 bgs prior to

> >meal and 90 bgs 2 hours past meal approach. That narrow of a margin

limits

> >all diabetic complications to the point of almost not having any.

>

> >

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

BTW Steve let me know what your bgs are prior to meals, or just what they

are at any time you can give me to try to see a pattern to help you use diet

to adjust them to normal range. Your doc will help you get on meds to assist

this but prior to you seeing him, you have got to get an understanding on

controling your carb intake and take this very seriously, as you know, what

you have is nothing to play around with. It is life threatening and is a

result of high bgs and like I said, if you get your bgs under control, it

could reverse this complication so I strongly encourage you to become

extremely aggressive in your diabetes management and follow some advice we

all will share with you to help you out.

steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>

> >Hi Steve.

>

> >I'm looking up an article on this form of Neuropathy. One thing for

certain

> >though, as I am trying to research this, it is a form of a Neuropathy and

> >the best treatment for any form of Neuropathy is very tight bgs control.

If

> >you have a form of a Neuropathy, I am assuming you are type 1? but could

be

> >wrong on that assumption. If you are type 1, your target range prior to a

> >meal should be 90 and 2 hours past your meal you should be back to 90.

This

> >could reverse the Neuropathy entirely in 2 to 3 months if you stick to

your

> >guns. If you want some help fine tuning your meals to accomplish this

task,

> >just let me know. Dr. Bernstein has so many patients that had severe

> >Neuropathy and it reversed in 3 months by following the 90 bgs prior to

> >meal and 90 bgs 2 hours past meal approach. That narrow of a margin

limits

> >all diabetic complications to the point of almost not having any.

>

> >

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve.

Ok, low carbers, lets help Steve out here. Steve, lets look at what you eat

here and see how many quick acting carbs your eating. I'm certain you've

read some on our low carb approach since carbs break down to sugar and

spike/raise bgs and make bgs hard to manage. You, as a type 2, want to have

an average bgs prior to meals and 2 hours past of 85. 105 is excellent

though but it is costing you your pancreas since your diet is very high carb

and extremely over works your pancreas! Lets look at your meals and I'll

suggest some modifications. , if you are reading this, my advice is not

for you so don't follow it. If you do follow what I am telling Steve, you

will pass out in a diabetic coma:

I start the day with a bowl of cereal with dried fruit and milk instead. of

sugar. I usually have low calorie orange juice as well.

* For breakfast, you should eat low carb since morning bgs are hard to keep

low due to liver dumping sugar in your system to help you wake up. that

right there is about 60 to 70 grams of carbs, which most low carbers eat in

1 day. You should eat about half that like 30 grams to see how that does

with you. Try leaving off the low fruit and eat 1/2 cup of cereal instead of

1 cup of cereal and 1 cup of milk. That will be about 26 grams of carbs. If

your still hungry, try eating a piece of cheese or a few eggs since that

will only add 1 carb to yor breakfast. Make certain to check your bgs 1 hour

past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you aren't going to

get low from eating less carbs and taking your oral meds. If you get low,

then we can readjust your diet. If you get low, drink 1/2 cup of juice that

will raise your bgs about 70 to 75 points in 30 mins. After you drink it,

get checked 20 mins later.

With morning and afternoon tea or coffee (I've

stopped taking sugar in these drinks)

* good for you!

I have a plain biscuit.

* That is about 30 grams of quick acting carbs. Try having some veggies like

broccoli, cauliflower, or a fresh salad with cheese on it. That will be

about 8 grams of slow acting carbs instead of 30 grams of quick acting

carbs. Don't eat carrots, those have to much sugar in them and don't eat

starchy veggies like corn, peas, etc. those have way to many carbs in them.

At lunch, I have two slices of bread: I

lightly margarine each slice of bread and but a slice of ham or chese on

each slice. I fold each slice

so that I get two sandwiches.

* try using only 1 piece of bread, 15 grams of carbs, instead of 2 pieces of

bread, 30 grams of carbs, and load up the one piece of bread with lots of

meat to fill you up. Have another salad if you are still hungry since

lettuce is very filling and low carb.

I usually have a fruit drink, but sometimes have a glass of semi-skimmed

milk if I feel I need it.

* get rid of the fruit juice, it is very very high carb, and the milk is

also very high carb. That fruit juice and milk together is about 45 grams of

carbs. Try having a diet drink instead. Once you eat this for lunch, get

checked 1 hour past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you

don't go low from cutting carbs back. If you get low at all, only drink 1/2

cup of your fruit juice since it will have 15 grams of carbs in it that will

spike your bgs to 75 points or higher.

In the evening, I either have vegetables, meat and boiled potatoes, or a

ready

made frozen meal.

* most frozen meals have about 45 grams of carbs in them and should be

avoided. Veggies such as leafy veggies are fine, but if you are eating

carrots, peas, corn, etc. for veggies at dinner, those are very high carb

and will spike bgs like crazy and make your pancreas work hard and burn it

out. Meat is fine.

I sometimes have a low calorie yoghurt afterwards, sometimes though I have a

yoghurt

at lunchtime and don't bother with a dessert at dinner.

* yougurt is very very high carb, typically about 45 grams in 1 little cup,

and should be avoided. Instead of eating yogurt, and if you want a treat,

eat some sugar free jello. For dinner, try having meat, leafy veggies,

salad, and a diet pop, Check bgs 1 hour past eating dinner and then 2 hours

past eating dinner to make certain you don't go low. If you get low, drink

1/2 cup of juice and then test your bgs 20 mins later to see if it is up.

Once a week on a Sunday, my parents take me out

to have dinner and then it is difficult to know what to eat and it is really

awkward - usually ui have

Lasagne because it doesn't come with chips like the other meals where we go,

but occasionally I am naughty

and have gammon and chips, and fkrtunately I have learnt to eat sensibly

most of the time, but I find

it difficult indeed.

* eating out can be hard. However, you should avoid any meals that have

breading on them since they are very high in carbs. Have a salad while out

instead and also some sort of low carb meat like broiled fish, no batter on

it, grilled chicken, no batter or frying on it, etc.

It's very clear I now need either further tablets (I already take four lots

of tablets

* if you lower your carbs, you won't. The only reason you are taking 4

tablets is because you are eating a diet that consists of 85% quick acting

carbs. Once you lower your carbs, your bgs will control much easier, you'll

feel better, and feel great.

Let me know if you have any questions. Please start to report your pre meal

and 2 hour post meal bgs readings and what you eat so we can follow the

pattern and help you balance your meals. Others who are low carbing, feel

free to jump in and help Steve out with some advice.

kind regards,

[Guest guest]

Steve,

Your diet is not such a great diabetic diet-too many carbs. All juices have

tons of carbs, as does bread and lasagna. Cereal is one of the highest

things you can eat in the morning as far as carbs-especially when eaten with

juice and milk. You might need less medication if you lower your carb

intake. Also, some medications can raise your blood sugar-like prednisone

or other cortisones. If it necessary you take that type of medication, you

have to talk with the doc and figure out how much meds or insulin you need

to decrease the blood sugar while taking those meds. It is very hard to

lean how to eat differently, so you have my sympathy!

Re: steve Autonomic Neuropathy

Hi, I take my BGS reading at meal times prikr to eating and two hours

afterwards. I was first registered as diabetic when I had a routine urine

test two years ago. At that time my BGS was very high, over 150. My coctor

said that alterinf my diet would be all that was required. It's still too

high, routinely about 105 both at meal time readings and two hours

afterwards and has been at this rate for about 6 months. Being registered

blind and living on my own, although I keep to a fairly rigid eating habit,

it's all too easy to maybe eat the wrkng things and as I love all kimds of

food, some of which I've cut out, I don't find it all that easy! I start the

day with a bowl of cereal with dried fruit and milk instead of sugar. I

usually have low calorie orange juice as well. With morning and afternoon

tea or coffee (I've stopped taking sugar in these drinks) I have a plain

biscuit. At lunch, I have two slices of bread: I lightly margarine each

slice of bread and but a slice of ham or chese on each slice. I fold each

slice so that I get two sandwiches. I usually have a fruit drink, but

sometimes have a glass of semi-skimmed milk if I feel I need it. In the

evening, I either have vegetables, meat and boiled potatoes, or a ready made

frozen meal. I sometimes have a low calorie yoghurt afterwards, sometimes

though I have a yoghurt at lunchtime and don't bother with a dessert at

dinner. Once a week on a Sunday, my parents take me out to have dinner and

then it is difficult to know what to eat and it is really awkward - usually

ui have Lasagne because it doesn't come with chips like the other meals

where we go, but occasionally I am naughty and have gammon and chips, and

fkrtunately I have learnt to eat sensibly most of the time, but I find it

difficult indeed.

It's very clear I now need either further tablets (I already take four lots

of tablets and a series of injections for things unrelated to diabetes),

insulin or to alter my diet drastically, which I'm not very good at doing

although I try and have managed to keep my BGS at the same level which is a

good eeal better than what it was. I get severe pain and cramp in my legs,

especially the left one, and it's more severe at night. I also have severe

back pain but that's from an old accident. I don't sleep well for obvious

reasons. I often get cramp in my left jaw when starting to eat and sweat

perfusely jhen I eat or drink - nothing to do with exercise - naturally I do

sweat when exercise - I love swimming.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers, Steve

> steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>>>Hi Steve.

>>>I'm looking up an article on this form of Neuropathy. One thing for

>certain

>>>though, as I am trying to research this, it is a form of a Neuropathy and

>>>the best treatment for any form of Neuropathy is very tight bgs control.

>If

>>>you have a form of a Neuropathy, I am assuming you are type 1? but could

>be

>>>wrong on that assumption. If you are type 1, your target range prior to a

>>>meal should be 90 and 2 hours past your meal you should be back to 90.

>This

>>>could reverse the Neuropathy entirely in 2 to 3 months if you stick to

>your

>>>guns. If you want some help fine tuning your meals to accomplish this

>task,

>>>just let me know. Dr. Bernstein has so many patients that had severe

>>>Neuropathy and it reversed in 3 months by following the 90 bgs prior to

>>>meal and 90 bgs 2 hours past meal approach. That narrow of a margin

>limits

>>>all diabetic complications to the point of almost not having any.

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi , Thanks for the suggestions on eating and lowering BGS. The juice I

drink is actually low calorie. The yoghurt is low calorie too, although I take

your point. I'm not keen on salad and the salad I used to eat (potato salad,

coleslaw etc being full of salad cream, salt etc), I've given up.

None of the medication I take is for my diabetes. I have Sustanon injections for

Pituitary Gland problems which affects my metabalism and the reason for eating

cereal at breakfast is because if I don't, I can't open my bowels. I also take

Attenlol, Bendrofluazide and Doxazosin for blood pressure problems (I especially

have blood pressure problems on tb|e exhaling part!) and Simvastatin, this is to

protect against Cholesterol and firing of the Artery problems. Things are far

more complicated.

Your further comments are appreciated.

Please be aware that I shall be away for a while in The Middle East and will

report back when I get back. I shall be able to look at messages but won't reply

until I return.

Cheers, Steve

> Re: steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>Hi Steve.

>Ok, low carbers, lets help Steve out here. Steve, lets look at what you eat

>here and see how many quick acting carbs your eating. I'm certain you've

>read some on our low carb approach since carbs break down to sugar and

>spike/raise bgs and make bgs hard to manage. You, as a type 2, want to have

>an average bgs prior to meals and 2 hours past of 85. 105 is excellent

>though but it is costing you your pancreas since your diet is very high carb

>and extremely over works your pancreas! Lets look at your meals and I'll

>suggest some modifications. , if you are reading this, my advice is not

>for you so don't follow it. If you do follow what I am telling Steve, you

>will pass out in a diabetic coma:

>I start the day with a bowl of cereal with dried fruit and milk instead. of

>sugar. I usually have low calorie orange juice as well.

>* For breakfast, you should eat low carb since morning bgs are hard to keep

>low due to liver dumping sugar in your system to help you wake up. that

>right there is about 60 to 70 grams of carbs, which most low carbers eat in

>1 day. You should eat about half that like 30 grams to see how that does

>with you. Try leaving off the low fruit and eat 1/2 cup of cereal instead of

>1 cup of cereal and 1 cup of milk. That will be about 26 grams of carbs. If

>your still hungry, try eating a piece of cheese or a few eggs since that

>will only add 1 carb to yor breakfast. Make certain to check your bgs 1 hour

>past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you aren't going to

>get low from eating less carbs and taking your oral meds. If you get low,

>then we can readjust your diet. If you get low, drink 1/2 cup of juice that

>will raise your bgs about 70 to 75 points in 30 mins. After you drink it,

>get checked 20 mins later.

>With morning and afternoon tea or coffee (I've

>stopped taking sugar in these drinks)

>* good for you!

>I have a plain biscuit.

>* That is about 30 grams of quick acting carbs. Try having some veggies like

>broccoli, cauliflower, or a fresh salad with cheese on it. That will be

>about 8 grams of slow acting carbs instead of 30 grams of quick acting

>carbs. Don't eat carrots, those have to much sugar in them and don't eat

>starchy veggies like corn, peas, etc. those have way to many carbs in them.

>At lunch, I have two slices of bread: I

>lightly margarine each slice of bread and but a slice of ham or chese on

>each slice. I fold each slice

>so that I get two sandwiches.

>* try using only 1 piece of bread, 15 grams of carbs, instead of 2 pieces of

>bread, 30 grams of carbs, and load up the one piece of bread with lots of

>meat to fill you up. Have another salad if you are still hungry since

>lettuce is very filling and low carb.

>I usually have a fruit drink, but sometimes have a glass of semi-skimmed

>milk if I feel I need it.

>* get rid of the fruit juice, it is very very high carb, and the milk is

>also very high carb. That fruit juice and milk together is about 45 grams of

>carbs. Try having a diet drink instead. Once you eat this for lunch, get

>checked 1 hour past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you

>don't go low from cutting carbs back. If you get low at all, only drink 1/2

>cup of your fruit juice since it will have 15 grams of carbs in it that will

>spike your bgs to 75 points or higher.

> In the evening, I either have vegetables, meat and boiled potatoes, or a

>ready

>made frozen meal.

>* most frozen meals have about 45 grams of carbs in them and should be

>avoided. Veggies such as leafy veggies are fine, but if you are eating

>carrots, peas, corn, etc. for veggies at dinner, those are very high carb

>and will spike bgs like crazy and make your pancreas work hard and burn it

>out. Meat is fine.

>I sometimes have a low calorie yoghurt afterwards, sometimes though I have a

>yoghurt

>at lunchtime and don't bother with a dessert at dinner.

>* yougurt is very very high carb, typically about 45 grams in 1 little cup,

>and should be avoided. Instead of eating yogurt, and if you want a treat,

>eat some sugar free jello. For dinner, try having meat, leafy veggies,

>salad, and a diet pop, Check bgs 1 hour past eating dinner and then 2 hours

>past eating dinner to make certain you don't go low. If you get low, drink

>1/2 cup of juice and then test your bgs 20 mins later to see if it is up.

>Once a week on a Sunday, my parents take me out

>to have dinner and then it is difficult to know what to eat and it is really

>awkward - usually ui have

>Lasagne because it doesn't come with chips like the other meals where we go,

>but occasionally I am naughty

>and have gammon and chips, and fkrtunately I have learnt to eat sensibly

>most of the time, but I find

>it difficult indeed.

>* eating out can be hard. However, you should avoid any meals that have

>breading on them since they are very high in carbs. Have a salad while out

>instead and also some sort of low carb meat like broiled fish, no batter on

>it, grilled chicken, no batter or frying on it, etc.

>It's very clear I now need either further tablets (I already take four lots

>of tablets

>* if you lower your carbs, you won't. The only reason you are taking 4

>tablets is because you are eating a diet that consists of 85% quick acting

>carbs. Once you lower your carbs, your bgs will control much easier, you'll

>feel better, and feel great.

>Let me know if you have any questions. Please start to report your pre meal

>and 2 hour post meal bgs readings and what you eat so we can follow the

>pattern and help you balance your meals. Others who are low carbing, feel

>free to jump in and help Steve out with some advice.

>kind regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve.

When I said salad, I'm sorry should have clairified, I meant leafy green

lettuce shredded up in a bowl with meats on top of it and salad dressing,

such as vinegar or oil on it. That is a low carb meal that can fill you up

quick. In the states, we say salad, it is assumed to mean green leafy

lettuce salad. You shouldn't eat potato salad or coleslaw or any such thing

since those are high in carbs as well. Also, the yogurt and fruit drink are

low calorie because they replace those fat/calories with carbohydrates and

use them as fillers. So why they are low calorie, they are very high in

carbohydrates which is a diabetics worst enemy. Low calorie could mean 45

calories for the yogurt with 50 grams of carb for example but only 3 fat

grams.

It may be possible to lower your carbs for breakfast, the cereal, and better

control your blood sugars and put less of a strain on your pancreas by

taking some sort of bowel/bran/fiber pill instead of eating the carbs. You

could also use an over the counter stool softner that you could discuss with

your doc on it working with your other meds meaning is it bad to use it.

These simple solutions may very well open your bowels in the morning and let

you lower your carbs for breakfast.

Another thought is to get rid of the milk and fruit in the morning, that

would get rid of about 30 grams of carbs right there, and just eat the

cereal dry if you have to eat it and your doc says you have to eat it. See

how much you have to eat of it since if you can eat 1/2 cup of it, that is

only 15 grams of carbs, where as 1 measured cup of cereal is about 30 to 40

grams of carbohydrate. This may sound disgusting, however, if you sprinkle

some splenda on it or nutra sweet, it can be a flavorful treat.

Perhaps if you can't do this in the morning, for breakfast, would it be

possible to lower the carbs on all other meals to help your pancreas not be

so over worked and burn it out and also help you run better bgs?

kind regards,

To: <blind-diabetics >

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:49 PM

Subject: Re: steve Autonomic Neuropathy

> Hi , Thanks for the suggestions on eating and lowering BGS. The

juice I drink is actually low calorie. The yoghurt is low calorie too,

although I take your point. I'm not keen on salad and the salad I used to

eat (potato salad, coleslaw etc being full of salad cream, salt etc), I've

given up.

>

> None of the medication I take is for my diabetes. I have Sustanon

injections for Pituitary Gland problems which affects my metabalism and the

reason for eating cereal at breakfast is because if I don't, I can't open my

bowels. I also take Attenlol, Bendrofluazide and Doxazosin for blood

pressure problems (I especially have blood pressure problems on tb|e

exhaling part!) and Simvastatin, this is to protect against Cholesterol and

firing of the Artery problems. Things are far more complicated.

>

> Your further comments are appreciated.

>

> Please be aware that I shall be away for a while in The Middle East and

will report back when I get back. I shall be able to look at messages but

won't reply until I return.

>

> Cheers, Steve

>

> > Re: steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>

> >Hi Steve.

>

> >Ok, low carbers, lets help Steve out here. Steve, lets look at what you

eat

> >here and see how many quick acting carbs your eating. I'm certain you've

> >read some on our low carb approach since carbs break down to sugar and

> >spike/raise bgs and make bgs hard to manage. You, as a type 2, want to

have

> >an average bgs prior to meals and 2 hours past of 85. 105 is excellent

> >though but it is costing you your pancreas since your diet is very high

carb

> >and extremely over works your pancreas! Lets look at your meals and I'll

> >suggest some modifications. , if you are reading this, my advice is

not

> >for you so don't follow it. If you do follow what I am telling Steve, you

> >will pass out in a diabetic coma:

>

> >I start the day with a bowl of cereal with dried fruit and milk instead.

of

> >sugar. I usually have low calorie orange juice as well.

>

>

> >* For breakfast, you should eat low carb since morning bgs are hard to

keep

> >low due to liver dumping sugar in your system to help you wake up. that

> >right there is about 60 to 70 grams of carbs, which most low carbers eat

in

> >1 day. You should eat about half that like 30 grams to see how that does

> >with you. Try leaving off the low fruit and eat 1/2 cup of cereal instead

of

> >1 cup of cereal and 1 cup of milk. That will be about 26 grams of carbs.

If

> >your still hungry, try eating a piece of cheese or a few eggs since that

> >will only add 1 carb to yor breakfast. Make certain to check your bgs 1

hour

> >past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you aren't going

to

> >get low from eating less carbs and taking your oral meds. If you get low,

> >then we can readjust your diet. If you get low, drink 1/2 cup of juice

that

> >will raise your bgs about 70 to 75 points in 30 mins. After you drink it,

> >get checked 20 mins later.

>

>

> >With morning and afternoon tea or coffee (I've

> >stopped taking sugar in these drinks)

>

> >* good for you!

>

> >I have a plain biscuit.

>

> >* That is about 30 grams of quick acting carbs. Try having some veggies

like

> >broccoli, cauliflower, or a fresh salad with cheese on it. That will be

> >about 8 grams of slow acting carbs instead of 30 grams of quick acting

> >carbs. Don't eat carrots, those have to much sugar in them and don't eat

> >starchy veggies like corn, peas, etc. those have way to many carbs in

them.

>

> >At lunch, I have two slices of bread: I

> >lightly margarine each slice of bread and but a slice of ham or chese on

> >each slice. I fold each slice

> >so that I get two sandwiches.

>

> >* try using only 1 piece of bread, 15 grams of carbs, instead of 2 pieces

of

> >bread, 30 grams of carbs, and load up the one piece of bread with lots of

> >meat to fill you up. Have another salad if you are still hungry since

> >lettuce is very filling and low carb.

>

> >I usually have a fruit drink, but sometimes have a glass of semi-skimmed

> >milk if I feel I need it.

>

> >* get rid of the fruit juice, it is very very high carb, and the milk is

> >also very high carb. That fruit juice and milk together is about 45 grams

of

> >carbs. Try having a diet drink instead. Once you eat this for lunch, get

> >checked 1 hour past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain

you

> >don't go low from cutting carbs back. If you get low at all, only drink

1/2

> >cup of your fruit juice since it will have 15 grams of carbs in it that

will

> >spike your bgs to 75 points or higher.

>

> > In the evening, I either have vegetables, meat and boiled potatoes, or a

> >ready

> >made frozen meal.

>

> >* most frozen meals have about 45 grams of carbs in them and should be

> >avoided. Veggies such as leafy veggies are fine, but if you are eating

> >carrots, peas, corn, etc. for veggies at dinner, those are very high carb

> >and will spike bgs like crazy and make your pancreas work hard and burn

it

> >out. Meat is fine.

>

> >I sometimes have a low calorie yoghurt afterwards, sometimes though I

have a

> >yoghurt

> >at lunchtime and don't bother with a dessert at dinner.

>

> >* yougurt is very very high carb, typically about 45 grams in 1 little

cup,

> >and should be avoided. Instead of eating yogurt, and if you want a treat,

> >eat some sugar free jello. For dinner, try having meat, leafy veggies,

> >salad, and a diet pop, Check bgs 1 hour past eating dinner and then 2

hours

> >past eating dinner to make certain you don't go low. If you get low,

drink

> >1/2 cup of juice and then test your bgs 20 mins later to see if it is up.

>

>

> >Once a week on a Sunday, my parents take me out

> >to have dinner and then it is difficult to know what to eat and it is

really

> >awkward - usually ui have

> >Lasagne because it doesn't come with chips like the other meals where we

go,

> >but occasionally I am naughty

> >and have gammon and chips, and fkrtunately I have learnt to eat sensibly

> >most of the time, but I find

> >it difficult indeed.

>

> >* eating out can be hard. However, you should avoid any meals that have

> >breading on them since they are very high in carbs. Have a salad while

out

> >instead and also some sort of low carb meat like broiled fish, no batter

on

> >it, grilled chicken, no batter or frying on it, etc.

>

> >It's very clear I now need either further tablets (I already take four

lots

> >of tablets

>

> >* if you lower your carbs, you won't. The only reason you are taking 4

> >tablets is because you are eating a diet that consists of 85% quick

acting

> >carbs. Once you lower your carbs, your bgs will control much easier,

you'll

> >feel better, and feel great.

>

> >Let me know if you have any questions. Please start to report your pre

meal

> >and 2 hour post meal bgs readings and what you eat so we can follow the

> >pattern and help you balance your meals. Others who are low carbing, feel

> >free to jump in and help Steve out with some advice.

>

> >kind regards,

>

> >

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, my pituitary problem was discovered in 1980, whereas my diabetes was only

discovered two years ago, so , am not sure whether it is linked - however from

's attachment on the above subjact of Autonomic Neuropathy, it eoes

suggest that my pituitary problems are very much linked.

Cheers, Steve

> Re: steve Autonomic Neuropathy

>>Hi Steve.

>>Ok, low carbers, lets help Steve out here. Steve, lets look at what you eat

>>here and see how many quick acting carbs your eating. I'm certain you've

>>read some on our low carb approach since carbs break down to sugar and

>>spike/raise bgs and make bgs hard to manage. You, as a type 2, want to have

>>an average bgs prior to meals and 2 hours past of 85. 105 is excellent

>>though but it is costing you your pancreas since your diet is very high

>carb

>>and extremely over works your pancreas! Lets look at your meals and I'll

>>suggest some modifications. , if you are reading this, my advice is

>not

>>for you so don't follow it. If you do follow what I am telling Steve, you

>>will pass out in a diabetic coma:

>>I start the day with a bowl of cereal with dried fruit and milk instead. of

>>sugar. I usually have low calorie orange juice as well.

>>* For breakfast, you should eat low carb since morning bgs are hard to keep

>>low due to liver dumping sugar in your system to help you wake up. that

>>right there is about 60 to 70 grams of carbs, which most low carbers eat in

>>1 day. You should eat about half that like 30 grams to see how that does

>>with you. Try leaving off the low fruit and eat 1/2 cup of cereal instead

>of

>>1 cup of cereal and 1 cup of milk. That will be about 26 grams of carbs. If

>>your still hungry, try eating a piece of cheese or a few eggs since that

>>will only add 1 carb to yor breakfast. Make certain to check your bgs 1

>hour

>>past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you aren't going

>to

>>get low from eating less carbs and taking your oral meds. If you get low,

>>then we can readjust your diet. If you get low, drink 1/2 cup of juice that

>>will raise your bgs about 70 to 75 points in 30 mins. After you drink it,

>>get checked 20 mins later.

>>With morning and afternoon tea or coffee (I've

>>stopped taking sugar in these drinks)

>>* good for you!

>>I have a plain biscuit.

>>* That is about 30 grams of quick acting carbs. Try having some veggies

>like

>>broccoli, cauliflower, or a fresh salad with cheese on it. That will be

>>about 8 grams of slow acting carbs instead of 30 grams of quick acting

>>carbs. Don't eat carrots, those have to much sugar in them and don't eat

>>starchy veggies like corn, peas, etc. those have way to many carbs in them.

>>At lunch, I have two slices of bread: I

>>lightly margarine each slice of bread and but a slice of ham or chese on

>>each slice. I fold each slice

>>so that I get two sandwiches.

>>* try using only 1 piece of bread, 15 grams of carbs, instead of 2 pieces

>of

>>bread, 30 grams of carbs, and load up the one piece of bread with lots of

>>meat to fill you up. Have another salad if you are still hungry since

>>lettuce is very filling and low carb.

>>I usually have a fruit drink, but sometimes have a glass of semi-skimmed

>>milk if I feel I need it.

>>* get rid of the fruit juice, it is very very high carb, and the milk is

>>also very high carb. That fruit juice and milk together is about 45 grams

>of

>>carbs. Try having a diet drink instead. Once you eat this for lunch, get

>>checked 1 hour past eating and then 2 hours past eating to make certain you

>>don't go low from cutting carbs back. If you get low at all, only drink 1/2

>>cup of your fruit juice since it will have 15 grams of carbs in it that

>will

>>spike your bgs to 75 points or higher.

>> In the evening, I either have vegetables, meat and boiled potatoes, or a

>>ready

>>made frozen meal.

>>* most frozen meals have about 45 grams of carbs in them and should be

>>avoided. Veggies such as leafy veggies are fine, but if you are eating

>>carrots, peas, corn, etc. for veggies at dinner, those are very high carb

>>and will spike bgs like crazy and make your pancreas work hard and burn it

>>out. Meat is fine.

>>I sometimes have a low calorie yoghurt afterwards, sometimes though I have

>a

>>yoghurt

>>at lunchtime and don't bother with a dessert at dinner.

>>* yougurt is very very high carb, typically about 45 grams in 1 little cup,

>>and should be avoided. Instead of eating yogurt, and if you want a treat,

>>eat some sugar free jello. For dinner, try having meat, leafy veggies,

>>salad, and a diet pop, Check bgs 1 hour past eating dinner and then 2 hours

>>past eating dinner to make certain you don't go low. If you get low, drink

>>1/2 cup of juice and then test your bgs 20 mins later to see if it is up.

>>Once a week on a Sunday, my parents take me out

>>to have dinner and then it is difficult to know what to eat and it is

>really

>>awkward - usually ui have

>>Lasagne because it doesn't come with chips like the other meals where we

>go,

>>but occasionally I am naughty

>>and have gammon and chips, and fkrtunately I have learnt to eat sensibly

>>most of the time, but I find

>>it difficult indeed.

>>* eating out can be hard. However, you should avoid any meals that have

>>breading on them since they are very high in carbs. Have a salad while out

>>instead and also some sort of low carb meat like broiled fish, no batter on

>>it, grilled chicken, no batter or frying on it, etc.

>>It's very clear I now need either further tablets (I already take four lots

>>of tablets

>>* if you lower your carbs, you won't. The only reason you are taking 4

>>tablets is because you are eating a diet that consists of 85% quick acting

>>carbs. Once you lower your carbs, your bgs will control much easier, you'll

>>feel better, and feel great.

>>Let me know if you have any questions. Please start to report your pre meal

>>and 2 hour post meal bgs readings and what you eat so we can follow the

>>pattern and help you balance your meals. Others who are low carbing, feel

>>free to jump in and help Steve out with some advice.

>>kind regards,

>>

>>