Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Sweeheart (pardon my french! ;-), the IS nothing else but your own insights. I tell you really deep stuff about you, and you say " wow, what a smart guy! " . Or I tell you some shit and you say " wow... what an idiot! " . And it could be the same words I use. You need to do what you are doing right now. Nothing else is possible. No one can know what a difference it makes to not be him. To do what he isn't. Sometimes someone asks me to do the work with him, and I am astonished at how deep he goes, and what he wants to know. And all I was doing is doing the work myself. I facilitate me, he facilitates himself. And it may appear different, sometimes. But if it does appear that I facilitate him, then he's the one investigating, and I am not! ;-) But go ahead, share what you know if that'll make it more likely for you to listen to what your wonderful self has to say. Love, Am 30.03.2008 um 21:16 schrieb April: > Haven't been visiting the forum for a while... but I've felt a pull > here again and noticed how good that feels. wrote in another > post: > > " What a powerful experience you offer here to illustrate how painful > it > can be to beleive that we are somehow calling the shots or in anyway > in > control of our expereince here. " > > And this is where I find myself presently. It seems to involve trust > in the process, something I've struggled with. I also notice how I > don't trust myself. In the past, I've done TW on my own and had deep > insights most of the time. Lately, as I've been more in my head, I've > noticed a story about how my own insights could never be as profound > as > another's. > > I keep thinking that I need to connect with others on this path... > that > just doing TW on my own is anemic in comparison. Obviously this is > where I need to start, but I'm also wondering how many of you > regularly > meet with others to do TW and how much of a difference that makes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I loved your first response and very much appreciate your second... Andy's message also made a deep impression and aligns with my path of non-duality. My tendency is to read, read, read and not bring the ideas into reality. TW helps a lot to make the philosophy experiential rather than merely philosophical. The more I get in my head, the less I feel able to the TW because then it feels like such an effort. Ha, ha... like feeling like crap is no effort at all, lol. So who would I be without the thought " My work is anemic " ? Full. Not lonely anymore. Not looking for answers outside myself. TA: My work is perfect. My work is gives me exactly what I need. Thank you! > > Hi April, > > So I've been thinking about your posting some more - or rather, not > thinking, but some stuff has just come up. > > Also reflecting on how 'anemic' my previous response may have appeared. > > The truth is I can see in myself how I can, and have, gone in for the > 'deep truth' - with myself and others at times - and how rough that > can feel for me at times - and how good that can feel as well, like a > deep cleanse. > > And I've also been learning how much fun it is to be 'anemic' with it > all - after all, isn't this what all of this stuff is about - taking > ourselves less seriously, so isn't the work a good place to start? :-) > > I have previously inquired into statements like " I am not good enough " > or " What I have done is not good enough " and when I turned them around > I also added in a comma, so it became: > > " I am good, enough " - this kind of work has helped me to see that I am > enough as I am right now and also to see the ways I can crucify myself > with anything, including my use of the work and the realizations that > I've had from the doing work (e.g. realizing what a terrible partner I > had been then beating myself up with that!). > > So who would you be without the thought that your work is anemic? > From where I am it looks like you're doing good stuff. > > (I'm also reminded of a BK facilitation where the participant > apologizes for bringing something trivial and BK says that nothing is > trivial, it is all the same.) > > Anemically, playfully yours, except when I'm not :-) > > Jon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Hi April, I was out this morning and a book title came to mind that seemed apt - you'll find it here: http://www.amazon.com/One-Belongs-Here-More-Than/dp/0743299418/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=U\ TF8 & s=books & qid=1207053656 & sr=8-1 I haven't read the book, just think the title is a good reminder. And if you want some fun, the very original website for the book is here: http://noonebelongsheremorethanyou.com/ I've also just realized that the title could have (at least) two possible meanings. With love, Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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