Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 I can take it! I learned to deal with a bully and tell when a person is a bully and just poking fun a long time ago. I have never been bothered by a bully twice in my life, since I learned how to deal with them. A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried > > > > > > > > foods, > > > > and > > > > > I > > > > > > > eat > > > > > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to > > > > > > > > reduce > > > > protein? > > > > > I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > eat > > > > but > > > > > > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I > > > > > > > > _can't_ > > > > > > > > > > > eat > > > > > than > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can > > > > > > > > but I > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 hmmmm Now Harry a pound of feathers and a pound of steel weigh a pound. I confess to being rather dense on this topic! Smile. Rita who really needs to work hard on math issues. > It is really not true. It depends on what you have a pint of. > The standard is a pint of water weighs a pound. For instance a gallon which > contains 8 pints weighs 8 pounds, where as a gallon of fuel weighs 7 pounds. > This is why oil or gasoline floats on top of water. The fuel is lighter. > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, > and I > > > > eat > > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > protein? I > > > > am > > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat > but > > > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ eat > than > > > > what > > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I > don't > > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Rita, As far as I know, Rita, this is true. A pint is 480 cc's and a pound is also 480 cc or 16 oz. there are 30 cc per ounce. I really had to learn the metric system when I was in nursisng as everything is measured with the metric system. Re: A lower protein diet ?? > > > Consult your weights and measurements , and I advise your > nutritionist to do likewise. > 28 grams equals one ounce, and it has been that as long as I can remember. > I know this quite well since I have worked with many convicted felons and > criminals of misdemeanors. > If you are found in possession of 27 grams of marijuana, you are convicted > of a misdemeanor, which will cause you to be fined a few dollars, If you > are found in possession of 28 grams of marijuana, you are convicted of a > felony, and you go to jail for several years plus you can lose your right to > vote. > That one little gram can mean all the difference, believe me. > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, and I > > eat > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce protein? I > > am > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat but > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ eat than > > what > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I don't > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 yes, Rita, a pound of feather and a pound of steel, but it takes a whole lot more feathers to make a pound than it does of steel! We are speaking about volume here. Re: A lower protein diet ?? hmmmm Now Harry a pound of feathers and a pound of steel weigh a pound. I confess to being rather dense on this topic! Smile. Rita who really needs to work hard on math issues. > It is really not true. It depends on what you have a pint of. > The standard is a pint of water weighs a pound. For instance a gallon which > contains 8 pints weighs 8 pounds, where as a gallon of fuel weighs 7 pounds. > This is why oil or gasoline floats on top of water. The fuel is lighter. > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, > and I > > > > eat > > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > protein? I > > > > am > > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat > but > > > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ eat > than > > > > what > > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I > don't > > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Harry, Are you inferring women are like chickens?` I protest! Wwe are not bird brains! (Ha Ha!) Re: A lower protein diet ?? I see where you are getting this " an ounce of fish or chicken only contains 7 grams of protein " stuff. One has to watch out for sham artists even though some of them do give some truth in their pitch, otherwise, they would not win you over. I am not saying a fish or a chicken is the same thing as a human woman, but consider the following quote from Anne web page, where this 7 grams of protein per ounce is touted. Here is the quote: " Body weight may be divided into three types: bones, muscle and fat. In a healthy female of average weight, bones make up 12 percent of total body weight, muscle/lean tissue about 35 percent and body fat about 27 percent. The remaining body weight is skin, connective tissue, tendons, blood, organs and so forth. " According to her presentation above, assuming a chicken is like a woman, only 35% of its weight at most can be considered protein. Well, I do not recommend a person eat the whole volume 7 ounces of chicken including, muscles, bone, fat, skin, organs, connective tissue, and so forth. I highly recommend one stick to eating the lean portions of the beast, whether or not it be chicken, fowl or fish. For instance in my lean New York strip steak weighing 7 ounces, I would bet that at least 6 and almost 6.8 ounces of it is pure protein. So, it probably has a little fat in it, I know, but for practical purposes I still consider my lean steak as containing 7 ounces of protein, which makes much better sense in estimating the protein weight content. As you read below, one can soon see why it is most beneficial for an over weight or a diabetic to build muscle. Muscle burns fat and fat just sits there or stores more of it, if you don't burn off that glucose in your blood stream. Now Anne goes on below to tell us some important factoids about weight and fat so read on below: Body Fat, Weight and Health Body Fat, Weight and Health Body Fat, Abdominal Fat, Body Fat Percentage, How to Measure Body Fat, Visceral Fat Body Fat, Weight and Health Body Fat, Abdominal or Visceral Fat, Body Fat Percentage Best Value Weight Loss Program on the Internet Diet Home - Body Fat Calculators - Anne Diet Program - Join Now - Body Mass Index Body Fat, Weight and Health If you want to lose weight and maintain good health, it's beneficial to understand why body fat is an important factor for weight loss and health. See also Body Fat Calculators Body Weight and Body Fat Body weight may be divided into three types: bones, muscle and fat. In a healthy female of average weight, bones make up 12 percent of total body weight, muscle/lean tissue about 35 percent and body fat about 27 percent. The remaining body weight is skin, connective tissue, tendons, blood, organs and so forth. Body Fat is Lighter Than Muscle by Volume Fat is lighter by volume than lean body tissue. For example, a 'cup' of fat is lighter than a 'cup' of muscle. This explains why increased physical exercise (which builds muscle) may actually cause weight gain rather than weight loss - at least to begin with. Body Fat Requires Fewer Calories Than Muscle Fat is metabolically less active than muscle. Meaning, it needs less calories to sustain it, than muscle. This is why body fat percentage is so important for weight control. The higher your percentage of fat (and the smaller your percentage of muscle) the less calories you need to maintain your weight and therefore the easier it is to gain weight. Body Fat Percentage Body fat is often expressed as our " Body Fat Percentage " or " Body Fat Percent. " Body fat percentage is the amount of body-fat-tissue as a percentage of total body weight. If your total body weight is 160 pounds and you have 32 pounds of fat, your body fat percentage is 20 percent. Body Fat Calculation and Health The higher your percentage of fat above average levels, the higher your health risk for weight-related illness, like heart disease, high blood pressure, gallstones, type 2 diabetes, osteoarthritis, and certain cancers. Body Fat Location, Abdominal Fat and Body Fat Percentage As we can see, the total amount of body fat we have is an important factor in weight control. But where our fat is stored is also important - especially for health. In simple terms, the more fat we have around our middle (abdominal fat, or visceral fat) the worse for our health. Excess abdominal fat has a strong link to " syndrome X, " the deadly quartet of high insulin, high sugar, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure. Even in people who don't have all these problems, excess abdominal fat is associated with high levels of LDL ( " bad " ) cholesterol and low levels of HDL ( " good " ) cholesterol. All in all, abdominal fat is strongly linked to an increased risk of heart disease and stroke and is far more hazardous to health than lower-body fat. Who Develops Excess Abdominal Fat? Generally, men tend to store fat around their middle (apple body shape), while women store fat around their pelvis, thighs and butt (pear body shape). But while gender is the most powerful influence on the distribution of body fat, it's not the only factor - genes and genetics also count. A 1996 study of twins found that hereditary factors are responsible for up to 70 percent of an individual's tendency to accumulate extra weight in the midsection. Age, too, has an effect. Aging is actually responsible for the middle-age spread so common in America. But the effect of age is magnified enormously by the final factor, lack of exercise. A recent study of 427 healthy men between 17 and 90 found that in each decade of adult life, the body fat of sedentary men increased 17 percent and the waist circumference 2 percent; regular exercise, though, reduced fat accumulation to just 3 percent per decade and held the mid-body bulge to just 1 percent per decade. Waist Circumference - Indicator of Body Fat Location A high waist circumference is associated with an increased risk for type 2 diabetes, dyslipidemia, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease CVD in patients with a body mass index (BMI) between 25-34.9. Furthermore, in obese patients with metabolic complications, changes in waist circumference are useful predictors of changes in CVD risk factors. Unhealthy Waist Circumference If you are overweight (BMI 25+), then as a very general rule, an unhealthy waist circumference is above 35 inches (women), or above 40 inches (men). See also How to Calculate Waist-Hip Ratio Healthy Weight Loss Program For the BEST VALUE weight loss diet on the Internet, PACKED with " brilliant " weight A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried > foods, > > > and > > > > I > > > > > > eat > > > > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > > > protein? > > > > I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to > eat > > > but > > > > > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ > eat > > > > than > > > > > > what > > > > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but > I > > > > don't > > > > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 What do you mean? I am married to a chicken! RE: A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > Harry, Are you inferring women are like chickens?` > > > I protest! Wwe are not bird brains! (Ha Ha!) > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I doubt the boss in your home is a chicken. In fact, she is probably the only one on the face of the earth who can tell you to shut up and you actually listen. Hahaha. Regards, RE: A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > Harry, Are you inferring women are like chickens?` > > > > I protest! Wwe are not bird brains! (Ha Ha!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 You can't get away with that... Just call me Rooster. RE: A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry, Are you inferring women are like chickens?` > > > > > I protest! Wwe are not bird brains! (Ha Ha!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Pat You must be darn sharp to have learned that and used it regularly. Rita > Rita, As far as I know, Rita, this is true. A pint is 480 cc's and a pound > is also 480 cc or 16 oz. there are 30 cc per ounce. I really had to learn > the metric system when I was in nursisng as everything is measured with the > metric system. > > Re: A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > Consult your weights and measurements , and I advise your > > nutritionist to do likewise. > > 28 grams equals one ounce, and it has been that as long as I can remember. > > I know this quite well since I have worked with many convicted felons and > > criminals of misdemeanors. > > If you are found in possession of 27 grams of marijuana, you are convicted > > of a misdemeanor, which will cause you to be fined a few dollars, If you > > are found in possession of 28 grams of marijuana, you are convicted of a > > felony, and you go to jail for several years plus you can lose your right > to > > vote. > > That one little gram can mean all the difference, believe me. > > > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, and > I > > > eat > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce protein? > I > > > am > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat but > > > > admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ eat > than > > > what > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I > don't > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 , Hmm, the pint to cc sounds good but the pound to cc is questionable as cc is a volume measure and the pound is a weight measure. How about grams for the pounds? Now the ounces is a whole nother thing. There are liqued (volume) ounces and weight ounces. This is where is sorta gets real confusing. A pound is 16 ounces of weight and th eounce does have a definite correlation to grams. A pint is also 16 liqued ounces and an ounce of volume does have a definite correlation to cubic meters (as opposed to non volume meters) The Ancient One.... Re: A lower protein diet ?? > > > Consult your weights and measurements , and I advise your > nutritionist to do likewise. 28 grams equals one ounce, and it has > been that as long as I can remember. I know this quite well since I > have worked with many convicted felons and criminals of misdemeanors. > If you are found in possession of 27 grams of marijuana, you are convicted > of a misdemeanor, which will cause you to be fined a few dollars, If you > are found in possession of 28 grams of marijuana, you are convicted of a > felony, and you go to jail for several years plus you can lose your right to > vote. > That one little gram can mean all the difference, believe me. > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, > > > and I > > eat > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > > > protein? I > > am > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat > > > but admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ > > > eat than > > what > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I don't > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 By golly Cy you help to make life interesting! Smile. I love this discussion. Rita > , > Hmm, the pint to cc sounds good but the pound to cc is questionable as > cc is a volume measure and the pound is a weight measure. How about > grams for the pounds? > Now the ounces is a whole nother thing. There are liqued (volume) ounces > and weight ounces. This is where is sorta gets real confusing. A pound > is 16 ounces of weight and th eounce does have a definite correlation to > grams. A pint is also 16 liqued ounces and an ounce of volume does have > a definite correlation to cubic meters (as opposed to non volume meters) > The Ancient One.... > > > Re: A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > Consult your weights and measurements , and I advise your > > nutritionist to do likewise. 28 grams equals one ounce, and it has > > been that as long as I can remember. I know this quite well since I > > have worked with many convicted felons and criminals of misdemeanors. > > If you are found in possession of 27 grams of marijuana, you are > convicted > > of a misdemeanor, which will cause you to be fined a few dollars, If > you > > are found in possession of 28 grams of marijuana, you are convicted of > a > > felony, and you go to jail for several years plus you can lose your > right > to > > vote. > > That one little gram can mean all the difference, believe me. > > > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, > > > > > and > I > > > eat > > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > > > > protein? > I > > > am > > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat > > > > > but admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ > > > > > eat > than > > > what > > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I > don't > > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 You've got a point Cy! My brain is presently in " rest " mode, so I can't calculate -maybe the brain functin will return by tomorrow! Re: A lower protein diet ?? > > > Consult your weights and measurements , and I advise your > nutritionist to do likewise. 28 grams equals one ounce, and it has > been that as long as I can remember. I know this quite well since I > have worked with many convicted felons and criminals of misdemeanors. > If you are found in possession of 27 grams of marijuana, you are convicted > of a misdemeanor, which will cause you to be fined a few dollars, If you > are found in possession of 28 grams of marijuana, you are convicted of a > felony, and you go to jail for several years plus you can lose your right to > vote. > That one little gram can mean all the difference, believe me. > > A lower protein diet ?? > > > > > > > > > If I cut out most of the carbs and dont' eat fatty or fried foods, > > > and I > > eat > > > more chicken than beef, what the heck else can I do to reduce > > > protein? I > > am > > > looking for things I _can_ eat that I would actually _like_ to eat > > > but admittedly I'm at that point where I see more things I _can't_ > > > eat than > > what > > > I _can_. I want to keep my kidneys functioning as best I can but I don't > > > want to stick to cardboard either. Any thoughts??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bill Powers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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