Re: Went to PT.. Why do I waste my time?

[Guest guest]

Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push their stuff so

they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different rounds. my ins. does not

pay good for PT at all. and not one of the times did they help me. I hope you

can find you a good dr. do you have a heating pad? that is my lifesaver. I agree

the anti-inflammatory are for the birds all they do is mess with your stomach.

Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

hugs, Jena

~:~Jena~:~

My Home Page

My E-mail

Went to PT.. Why do I waste my time?

Well I went to see the PT today, and she says my fibro will get better by

exercising, eventually..Of course my back will never get better the fibro

will.. With exercise alone.. WOW I am amazed.. BS! And I told her so as well

. I of course, left there and sat in my car and just cried... She wants me

to keep an activity journal for 2 days, in detail what I do from the time I

wake up...Then in a week I go back and she will give me " little " things to

do and it will be a very slow process, probably a year before I can actually

" work out " ..

I got NO massage, no " therapy " at all and it doesn't sound like I will get

any of that.. So I paid a co-pay of 15.00 for WHAT??? And then again next

week. I will NOT do this weekly you can bet your butt on that..

Tomorrow I am looking for a new Dr, and I am going to email the pain

specialist and tell him his anti-inflammatory's are for the birds and I am

going to go to every Dr at group health until I find one who will LISTEN and

HELP me! I am so angry and in so much pain and I am just supposed to sit

here and suffer?? Medical in the US is horrible!

I changed the sheets on my bed, and I now my back it OUT.. ( DJD).. She of

course said the DJD wont get better but the fibro will.. HAHAHA..Either way,

I am in severe pain and I am sick of this.. I am ready to jump off a bridge!

Thanks for listening..

Karla

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jena,

At least I can come here and have people that really understand.. Right now

I wish my husband would drop dead..Or worse, get what I have and then he can

see how it feels to be in so much pain every day.. Awful thing to wish but

if you knew my husband you would too!

I told him what the PT said, and also about MAY have triggered the fibro.

which was a car accident I got into a few years back.. Nothing serious but I

remember every part of my body hurting for several days.. ALL my muscles etc

..

So he gets all nasty and says I am like this because I am fat, and the PT

just wants my money that's why she says not to do anything more than what

she tells me.. Then he goes on to say he better get me a wheel chair and a

handicap sticker for the car since I am so crippled from an a " serious

horrible crash " (sarcastically mind U because it wasn't serious.

He sees me fall onto the bed from pain and crying while I was changing the

sheets and he just walked past me not even offering to help.. He says I am

lazy and sit in front of the computer smoking all day.. This is just a flat

out lie and he knows it. But he says this crap to hurt me..What I do not

understand is WHY does he want to hurt me so much?! He might as well beat me

cus it feels worse when he says these things.

After 23 years together you would think he would grow up! He acts like I

enjoy being in pain.. Heck I don't know what he thinks, this garbage spews

like vomit from his mouth way to often! I have left him 2x and even divorced

him once over his verbal abuse...But I came back like a lost puppy..

Yeah I have a heating pad and I use it A LOT..lol..I need 2 right now, one

for my shoulders and one for my back. I also have a hot tub, and it does

help the muscles, but not the disc issues. Matter a fact I was just out

there and of course it started to rain again..I really hate the rain..

Well I think I will go and watch some TV for a bit and wait for Don to fall

asleep and then go to bed myself.. I am SO exhausted, I don't recall ever

being this exhausted before.

Thanks again!!

Hugs

Karla

-------Original Message-------

Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push their stuff

so they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different rounds. my ins.

does not pay good for PT at all. and not one of the times did they help me.

I hope you can find you a good dr. do you have a heating pad? that is my

lifesaver. I agree the anti-inflammatory are for the birds all they do is

mess with your stomach. Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

hugs, Jena

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry Karla,

I went through a lot of the same PT problems you are having now. I

was angry about it too. Another co-pay, another round of BS that

does not help. I was told to go swim with a big rubber ball with the

old folks last time I went. PT is a joke a lot of the time, and I

believe Jena is right, they have to peddle thier wares and make

themselves seem special enough to keep themselves in a job. My last

experience was the last for me. I had gone in to see a

PT " specailist " I'm using that term loosly. Anyway, the guy was

pulling and tugging at my right arm, I tried to tell him my shoulder

does not do that any more, and that he was hurting me( I have a

limited range of motion since the shoulder replacement). Ever have

someone tell you they are not hurting you as if you were a child, and

didn't know if you were being injured or not? I wanted to knock his

block off. Then the guy has the nerve to tell me I need to come back

three times a week for him to work on me some more..........not

bloody likely. Not all PT places are like that, and I have seen and

recieved help from them in the past. It's been my experiece however,

that when I go to one of these places that after they show me what

exercises I'm supossed to do, I build a workout plan around that and

do it myself or with the aid of my wife. I push myself harder than

they would, and I know what hurts and what doesn't. No matter WHAT

some over educated person tells you, YOU know your own body way

better than they do, ESPECALLY if they are younger and have never had

to deal with pain as we do on a daily basis. OK, I vented, I feel

better. This is one of those hot button topics for me. I hope you

feel better and I'm so sorry it's so frustrating, I understand what a

major pain in the butt this must be on top of just trying to make it

through the motions of every day life like every one else does with

little or no effort. Take care, TTFN

-- In Hugs-N-Pain , " Jena " wrote:

>

> Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push

their stuff so they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different

rounds. my ins. does not pay good for PT at all. and not one of the

times did they help me. I hope you can find you a good dr. do you

have a heating pad? that is my lifesaver. I agree the anti-

inflammatory are for the birds all they do is mess with your stomach.

Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

> you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

> hugs, Jena

>

> ~:~Jena~:~

> My Home Page

> My E-mail

>

> Went to PT.. Why do I waste my time?

>

>

> Well I went to see the PT today, and she says my fibro will get

better by

> exercising, eventually..Of course my back will never get better

the fibro

> will.. With exercise alone.. WOW I am amazed.. BS! And I told her

so as well

> . I of course, left there and sat in my car and just cried... She

wants me

> to keep an activity journal for 2 days, in detail what I do from

the time I

> wake up...Then in a week I go back and she will give me " little "

things to

> do and it will be a very slow process, probably a year before I

can actually

> " work out " ..

>

> I got NO massage, no " therapy " at all and it doesn't sound like I

will get

> any of that.. So I paid a co-pay of 15.00 for WHAT??? And then

again next

> week. I will NOT do this weekly you can bet your butt on that..

>

> Tomorrow I am looking for a new Dr, and I am going to email the

pain

> specialist and tell him his anti-inflammatory's are for the birds

and I am

> going to go to every Dr at group health until I find one who will

LISTEN and

> HELP me! I am so angry and in so much pain and I am just supposed

to sit

> here and suffer?? Medical in the US is horrible!

>

> I changed the sheets on my bed, and I now my back it OUT.. (

DJD).. She of

> course said the DJD wont get better but the fibro will..

HAHAHA..Either way,

> I am in severe pain and I am sick of this.. I am ready to jump

off a bridge!

> Thanks for listening..

> Karla

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you don't mind my jumping in here, ...twice now...this makes

me really grateful to have an understanding wife. I sould probably

kep my mouth shut, but I'm going to type anyway. It sounds to me

like you have two problems, one you have more control over than the

other. Your pain, as much of a pain as it is, is yours, and while

you may not be finding the relief you need right now, you are pretty

much in control and in charge of treating your pain. As far as your

spouse, you can't control that. So as I see it you have two problems

to deal with, not just one. Now to some, that might seem like twice

the trouble, but I think that is a matter of perspective. Knowing

you have two seperate problems, you might consider trying to work on

these two things seperate. What I mean is if you can seperate some

of this, it might not seem to snowball quite so much. For me, I have

to seperate what I can control or affect a change, and what I can

not. If you know he uses your pain against you, then take it back.

He uses those things...those words that he knows will push the right

buttons. You have control over how you react to a given situation,

be it physical pain, or emotional pain. If you know he's full of

crap, don't buy into it.

Relationships are tough anyway. I came to a discovery recently.

We know another couple, much younger than us, they just had their

first child. When the guy was given the choice between a lie about

why he had been gone a long time from home, or telling the truth, he

chose a lie. When I suggested he try telling the truth, because

that's what worked for me, it never dawned on me that it would cause

him more trouble telling the truth. The lesson I learned, and should

already have known is that it only works when you BOTH WANT to get

along. After 12 years, my wife and I both try to get along, I guess

we just don't like to fight. Now if one of us didn't want to get

along, it wouldn't matter how hard the other one tried, there would

be no peace.

Is he perfect? What kind of shape is he in? I'm not saying go pick

a fight, just consider the source. Would he be nice to you if you

quit smoking, or suddenly got thin? If so, why? If he'd still be a

snot, why would you stay? These are questions I'd be asking myself

if I were you. I'd also be asking myself why I would allow someone

to treat me badly when I was already down. I really hope you feel

better. You gotta take care of YOU before you can take care of

anyone else. TTFN

>

> Thanks Jena,

> At least I can come here and have people that really understand..

Right now

> I wish my husband would drop dead..Or worse, get what I have and

then he can

> see how it feels to be in so much pain every day.. Awful thing to

wish but

> if you knew my husband you would too!

>

> I told him what the PT said, and also about MAY have triggered the

fibro.

> which was a car accident I got into a few years back.. Nothing

serious but I

> remember every part of my body hurting for several days.. ALL my

muscles etc

> .

>

> So he gets all nasty and says I am like this because I am fat, and

the PT

> just wants my money that's why she says not to do anything more

than what

> she tells me.. Then he goes on to say he better get me a wheel

chair and a

> handicap sticker for the car since I am so crippled from an

a " serious

> horrible crash " (sarcastically mind U because it wasn't serious.

>

> He sees me fall onto the bed from pain and crying while I was

changing the

> sheets and he just walked past me not even offering to help.. He

says I am

> lazy and sit in front of the computer smoking all day.. This is

just a flat

> out lie and he knows it. But he says this crap to hurt me..What I

do not

> understand is WHY does he want to hurt me so much?! He might as

well beat me

> cus it feels worse when he says these things.

>

> After 23 years together you would think he would grow up! He acts

like I

> enjoy being in pain.. Heck I don't know what he thinks, this

garbage spews

> like vomit from his mouth way to often! I have left him 2x and even

divorced

> him once over his verbal abuse...But I came back like a lost puppy..

>

> Yeah I have a heating pad and I use it A LOT..lol..I need 2 right

now, one

> for my shoulders and one for my back. I also have a hot tub, and it

does

> help the muscles, but not the disc issues. Matter a fact I was just

out

> there and of course it started to rain again..I really hate the

rain..

>

> Well I think I will go and watch some TV for a bit and wait for Don

to fall

> asleep and then go to bed myself.. I am SO exhausted, I don't

recall ever

> being this exhausted before.

> Thanks again!!

> Hugs

> Karla

>

> -------Original Message-------

> Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push

their stuff

> so they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different rounds. my

ins.

> does not pay good for PT at all. and not one of the times did they

help me.

> I hope you can find you a good dr. do you have a heating pad? that

is my

> lifesaver. I agree the anti-inflammatory are for the birds all they

do is

> mess with your stomach. Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

> you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

> hugs, Jena

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you don't mind my jumping in here, ...twice now...this makes

me really grateful to have an understanding wife. I sould probably

kep my mouth shut, but I'm going to type anyway. It sounds to me

like you have two problems, one you have more control over than the

other. Your pain, as much of a pain as it is, is yours, and while

you may not be finding the relief you need right now, you are pretty

much in control and in charge of treating your pain. As far as your

spouse, you can't control that. So as I see it you have two problems

to deal with, not just one. Now to some, that might seem like twice

the trouble, but I think that is a matter of perspective. Knowing

you have two seperate problems, you might consider trying to work on

these two things seperate. What I mean is if you can seperate some

of this, it might not seem to snowball quite so much. For me, I have

to seperate what I can control or affect a change, and what I can

not. If you know he uses your pain against you, then take it back.

He uses those things...those words that he knows will push the right

buttons. You have control over how you react to a given situation,

be it physical pain, or emotional pain. If you know he's full of

crap, don't buy into it.

Relationships are tough anyway. I came to a discovery recently.

We know another couple, much younger than us, they just had their

first child. When the guy was given the choice between a lie about

why he had been gone a long time from home, or telling the truth, he

chose a lie. When I suggested he try telling the truth, because

that's what worked for me, it never dawned on me that it would cause

him more trouble telling the truth. The lesson I learned, and should

already have known is that it only works when you BOTH WANT to get

along. After 12 years, my wife and I both try to get along, I guess

we just don't like to fight. Now if one of us didn't want to get

along, it wouldn't matter how hard the other one tried, there would

be no peace.

Is he perfect? What kind of shape is he in? I'm not saying go pick

a fight, just consider the source. Would he be nice to you if you

quit smoking, or suddenly got thin? If so, why? If he'd still be a

snot, why would you stay? These are questions I'd be asking myself

if I were you. I'd also be asking myself why I would allow someone

to treat me badly when I was already down. I really hope you feel

better. You gotta take care of YOU before you can take care of

anyone else. TTFN

>

> Thanks Jena,

> At least I can come here and have people that really understand..

Right now

> I wish my husband would drop dead..Or worse, get what I have and

then he can

> see how it feels to be in so much pain every day.. Awful thing to

wish but

> if you knew my husband you would too!

>

> I told him what the PT said, and also about MAY have triggered the

fibro.

> which was a car accident I got into a few years back.. Nothing

serious but I

> remember every part of my body hurting for several days.. ALL my

muscles etc

> .

>

> So he gets all nasty and says I am like this because I am fat, and

the PT

> just wants my money that's why she says not to do anything more

than what

> she tells me.. Then he goes on to say he better get me a wheel

chair and a

> handicap sticker for the car since I am so crippled from an

a " serious

> horrible crash " (sarcastically mind U because it wasn't serious.

>

> He sees me fall onto the bed from pain and crying while I was

changing the

> sheets and he just walked past me not even offering to help.. He

says I am

> lazy and sit in front of the computer smoking all day.. This is

just a flat

> out lie and he knows it. But he says this crap to hurt me..What I

do not

> understand is WHY does he want to hurt me so much?! He might as

well beat me

> cus it feels worse when he says these things.

>

> After 23 years together you would think he would grow up! He acts

like I

> enjoy being in pain.. Heck I don't know what he thinks, this

garbage spews

> like vomit from his mouth way to often! I have left him 2x and even

divorced

> him once over his verbal abuse...But I came back like a lost puppy..

>

> Yeah I have a heating pad and I use it A LOT..lol..I need 2 right

now, one

> for my shoulders and one for my back. I also have a hot tub, and it

does

> help the muscles, but not the disc issues. Matter a fact I was just

out

> there and of course it started to rain again..I really hate the

rain..

>

> Well I think I will go and watch some TV for a bit and wait for Don

to fall

> asleep and then go to bed myself.. I am SO exhausted, I don't

recall ever

> being this exhausted before.

> Thanks again!!

> Hugs

> Karla

>

> -------Original Message-------

> Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push

their stuff

> so they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different rounds. my

ins.

> does not pay good for PT at all. and not one of the times did they

help me.

> I hope you can find you a good dr. do you have a heating pad? that

is my

> lifesaver. I agree the anti-inflammatory are for the birds all they

do is

> mess with your stomach. Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

> you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

> hugs, Jena

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Karla, I so well understand you. My husband though after I had the

Vertebroplasty I would be healed. And when the pain continued and has even

gotten worse. boy I sure caught it from him. I know all about the razor tongue.

in 30 years he has never touched me but his mouth has cut to the bone. But

finally he sees I really try to do stuff and just can't. He still gets a upset

at me sometimes.

but nothing like before. I finally come to the point that I decided I had to

take care of myself.

When I had the vertebroplasty it was terrible. I never felt such pain in my

life. It was bad enough my dr since me home on Diluadid. very strong pain med.

my husband was putting our window unit air conditioners in and he got mad

because I would not help he hold one of the big ones. I was doing good to walk

at that point.

you are right there is no way they can understand the pain.

He has also seen me turn away from things I loved to do. But just can't do them

anymore. Most of the time now I prefer just to stay at home.

There is a extra large heating pad that will cover your shoulders and back. I

have one.

Just try and hang in there. and hopefully your husband will begin to understand

a little better. Write all you want and you can even email me personally as I

truly understand what you are going through with your husband.

Hoping your pain is better today.

Jena

~:~Jena~:~

My Home Page

My E-mail

Re: Went to PT.. Why do I waste my time?

Thanks Jena,

At least I can come here and have people that really understand.. Right now

I wish my husband would drop dead..Or worse, get what I have and then he can

see how it feels to be in so much pain every day.. Awful thing to wish but

if you knew my husband you would too!

I told him what the PT said, and also about MAY have triggered the fibro.

which was a car accident I got into a few years back.. Nothing serious but I

remember every part of my body hurting for several days.. ALL my muscles etc

.

So he gets all nasty and says I am like this because I am fat, and the PT

just wants my money that's why she says not to do anything more than what

she tells me.. Then he goes on to say he better get me a wheel chair and a

handicap sticker for the car since I am so crippled from an a " serious

horrible crash " (sarcastically mind U because it wasn't serious.

He sees me fall onto the bed from pain and crying while I was changing the

sheets and he just walked past me not even offering to help.. He says I am

lazy and sit in front of the computer smoking all day.. This is just a flat

out lie and he knows it. But he says this crap to hurt me..What I do not

understand is WHY does he want to hurt me so much?! He might as well beat me

cus it feels worse when he says these things.

After 23 years together you would think he would grow up! He acts like I

enjoy being in pain.. Heck I don't know what he thinks, this garbage spews

like vomit from his mouth way to often! I have left him 2x and even divorced

him once over his verbal abuse...But I came back like a lost puppy..

Yeah I have a heating pad and I use it A LOT..lol..I need 2 right now, one

for my shoulders and one for my back. I also have a hot tub, and it does

help the muscles, but not the disc issues. Matter a fact I was just out

there and of course it started to rain again..I really hate the rain..

Well I think I will go and watch some TV for a bit and wait for Don to fall

asleep and then go to bed myself.. I am SO exhausted, I don't recall ever

being this exhausted before.

Thanks again!!

Hugs

Karla

-------Original Message-------

Karla, sorry you had such a hard time. these PT's have to push their stuff

so they will have a job. I have been to them 3 different rounds. my ins.

does not pay good for PT at all. and not one of the times did they help me.

I hope you can find you a good dr. do you have a heating pad? that is my

lifesaver. I agree the anti-inflammatory are for the birds all they do is

mess with your stomach. Hoping you can settle down and relax some.

you will be in my prayers. I sure know what pain is all about.

hugs, Jena

[Guest guest]

Karla,

I'm so very sorry your in so much pain, and the doctor didn't help

you. I would ASAP find another doctor. I get tired of doctor's they

really don't care how a person feels. My prayers are with you, Tawny

[Guest guest]

Hi Karla,

I'm so sorry to hear of your experience with PT and then the experience with

your husband. OMGosh girl, he is awful. And I thought my ex was bad. I wound up

divorcing him a yr and a half after I got sick for his verbal abuse, telling me

how worthless I was now and I have the doctors snowed. He didn't have a clue and

didn't want one either, so I sent him on his way. We had been together for a lil

over 20 yrs as well. With him since I was 13 and this is the kind of support I

got after all I had been through with him over the years. I put up with so many

things he did, because I loved him and I knew he was still growing up. And he

did. Then he couldn't be there for me when it was something out of my control

even. The things I was there for him, were things he could have controlled, it

was all his choice, but I saw them as a part of life and kept taking him back.

We divorced twice too. The first time was over one of his affairs. And then I

took him back a yr and a half later. This is just one of the things I put up

with and I also remained true to the marriage even though we were divorced as I

knew in my heart we'd get back together. It was a big mistake to get back with

him I found out later. The final straw in my decision of ending it or staying

with him was when I asked a very important question, his answer just about blew

me right over. I asked " what happened to " in sickness and in health " , he

responded " that's just a ritual everyone says at their wedding " . I knew then it

was over. And I thought I knew him too, but I didn't, not that well. After over

20 yrs. This was just after Thanksgiving of 1996, I wanted to get through the

Holidays as I didn't want our children's Holidays to be scarred by this. So it

was February before I got him out. It was over.

I hope yours doesn't come to this, but you really deserve more than to put up

with that abuse. You are a much better person than that Karla. No I don't know

you, but I do know that NO one deserves treatment like that.

I'm praying for you. Best wishes,

Hugs,

Tommie

Thanks Jena,

At least I can come here and have people that really understand.. Right now

I wish my husband would drop dead..Or worse, get what I have and then he can

see how it feels to be in so much pain every day.. Awful thing to wish but

if you knew my husband you would too!

I told him what the PT said, and also about MAY have triggered the fibro.

which was a car accident I got into a few years back.. Nothing serious but I

remember every part of my body hurting for several days.. ALL my muscles etc

.

So he gets all nasty and says I am like this because I am fat, and the PT

just wants my money that's why she says not to do anything more than what

she tells me.. Then he goes on to say he better get me a wheel chair and a

handicap sticker for the car since I am so crippled from an a " serious

horrible crash " (sarcastically mind U because it wasn't serious.

He sees me fall onto the bed from pain and crying while I was changing the

sheets and he just walked past me not even offering to help.. He says I am

lazy and sit in front of the computer smoking all day.. This is just a flat

out lie and he knows it. But he says this crap to hurt me..What I do not

understand is WHY does he want to hurt me so much?! He might as well beat me

cus it feels worse when he says these things.

After 23 years together you would think he would grow up! He acts like I

enjoy being in pain.. Heck I don't know what he thinks, this garbage spews

like vomit from his mouth way to often! I have left him 2x and even divorced

him once over his verbal abuse...But I came back like a lost puppy..

Yeah I have a heating pad and I use it A LOT..lol..I need 2 right now, one

for my shoulders and one for my back. I also have a hot tub, and it does

help the muscles, but not the disc issues. Matter a fact I was just out

there and of course it started to rain again..I really hate the rain..

Well I think I will go and watch some TV for a bit and wait for Don to fall

asleep and then go to bed myself.. I am SO exhausted, I don't recall ever

being this exhausted before.

Thanks again!!

Hugs

Karla

.