Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

February 17, 2012

Dear Friends,

Recently I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you in the

future. Its something taht is changing my life for the better, although it did

take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it well

enough to use it.

At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is out

of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I dont want

to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but the

panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts that

are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not with

me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it would

help even to question that....

Any other ideas???

Peace,

Logan

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February 17, 2012

Dear Logan,

well, the panic is obviously a sign...

I would sit and write down the fears. And then inquire into them. Is it really

true ...fear one... should not happen.

Because it is happening. In your mind.

Take your time.

Hugs,

Am 17.02.2012 um 13:10 schrieb logan:

> Dear Friends,

>

> Recently I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you in

the future. Its something taht is changing my life for the better, although it

did take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it

well enough to use it.

>

> At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

>

> I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is

out of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I dont

want to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but

the panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts

that are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

>

> I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not with

me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it would

help even to question that....

>

> Any other ideas???

>

> Peace,

>

> Logan

>

February 17, 2012

Hi Logan,

This looks like a good place to start to me. Take time and feel the answers,

even writing the sheet. Really feel the questioning as you write it. This helps

me to get the worksheet I want to question not just one that would be useful.

" My partner is not with me at night. "

I think this is a really good one for me to now that I think about it.

Thanks!

ne

February 18, 2012

I am not clear about the the problem, are you afraid of being alone or is it a

loyalty issue that is the problem?

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Recently, I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you in

the future. Its something that is changing my life for the better, although it

did take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it

well enough to use it.

>

> At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

>

> I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is

out of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I don't

want to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but

the panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts

that are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

>

> I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not with

me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it would

help even to question that....

>

> Any other ideas???

>

> Peace,

>

> Logan

>

> ________________________________

>

February 18, 2012

Hi ,

I really like your point. WhenÂ I read it what comes to me is that I should let

the question almost ask itself, let the thought taht wants to be question emerge

of itself instead of being so mental about it and thinking so much 'what is the

correct thing to work on etc...'

'My partner is not here at night...' (as you say) and 'I am alone' are some good

ones. I am not convinced we are ever ever alone in this entire universe. How

would that be possible? To be alone? With all the elements, with microbes, with

insects in the wall. There is some consciousness always with us somewhere. :-)

Having said that, what I am being careful with the Work is my tendency to some

times use it to rationalise not acting and not raising issues with those near

me. When I arrive at the place where I dont need to do that, great! But trying

to enquire into something that needs to be addressed to another person, that is

a dange I have run into.

However, the wisom of the questions is also helping me with that...

Peace.

Logan

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To: Loving-what-is

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

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Hi Logan,

This looks like a good place to start to me. Take time and feel the answers,

even writing the sheet. Really feel the questioning as you write it. This helps

me to get the worksheet I want to question not just one that would be useful.

" My partner is not with me at night. "

I think this is a really good one for me to now that I think about it.

Thanks!

ne

February 18, 2012

Hi ,

'Take your time' - thats a key I have been missing in my desperation to make the

panic and anxiety stop. I think so fast and try so hard that I dont take the

time to really do the Work, it sometimes seems.

Thanks for the reminder!

Hug,

Logan

________________________________

To: Loving-what-is

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:45 PM

Subject: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

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Dear Logan,

well, the panic is obviously a sign...

I would sit and write down the fears. And then inquire into them. Is it really

true ...fear one... should not happen.

Because it is happening. In your mind.

Take your time.

Hugs,

Am 17.02.2012 um 13:10 schrieb logan:

> Dear Friends,

>

> Recently I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you in

the future. Its something taht is changing my life for the better, although it

did take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it

well enough to use it.

>

> At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

>

> I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is

out of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I dont

want to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but

the panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts

that are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

>

> I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not with

me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it would

help even to question that....

>

> Any other ideas???

>

> Peace,

>

> Logan

>

February 18, 2012

Hi Logan,

Here is one approach that might yield

some helpul results -

Try sitting down at your computer and

just writing down your one-liners, in

a kind of meditative free-flowing zone.

Let your internal voices speak in the

process - say to your internal

" Controller " - May I please hear the

voice of the Wounded Child? and then

shift your body a bit, allowing your

WC's voice to come out -

That voice may want to express itself

with " should " statements and judgements,

which you can capture. Look at your

" Judge Your Neighbor " worksheet and

allow the WC to fill it out. Let the

voice of that self or any other voice

emerge without censorship or restraint.

To learn more about this process, you

can search Genpo Roshi and " Big Mind "

on Google. It's an easy process to

learn with his videos and is helpful

when tied to the process of inquiry.

The summary is that we often stuff

down and disown emotions of pain,

anger and fear, and then try to

control them. You have a great

opportunity here to just allow them

to drop by for a visit and then leave,

like trick-or-treaters on Halloween.

The Work has always revealed the false

beliefs behind these stressful thoughts

and shown what is true or truer. You

can trust that. Approach with curiosity,

and hold them lightly.

Good luck,

February 18, 2012

Hi Logan,

Yea I often find that I make things more complicated than they need to be, or to

serve my needs. Often my " situation " and " one liner " are already there. Nice to

know.

Concerning " something that needs to be addressed to another person " I think we

need to examine our motives. This will greatly affect how we present ourselves

and what kind of pressure we are putting on others. I know I run a lot of

motives and they interfere with what I am trying to express. By examining wants,

needs and shoulds I find a lot of clarity. And, take the pressure off of them to

come around to my way of thinking. Something better than I could have planned is

the result. Amazing and delightful!

Thank you!

ne

Subject: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

To: " Loving-what-is " <Loving-what-is >

Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 8:51 AM