Something is wrong with me

[Guest guest]

" no-thing is wrong with me " could be a possible turnaround - and it

looks like you've already got it covered.

the other place I would go is to list what you believe is wrong with

you at this point in time and see if inquiry happens.

here are some of mine right now:

i shouldn't be so tired

i should sleep better than i do :-)

i shouldn't be so impulsive / compulsive

i should let go rather than holding on to being awake

how funny to see that it becomes a 'life and death' battle, on the

edge of sleep / tiredness - i'm reminded of " bohemian rhapsody " by

Queen....

with love,

jon

[Guest guest]

Sounds like nice work you just did! Way to go.

So I just got out of a massage and realized how I felt more in my body. Then I

had the thought " The Work takes me out of my body and into my head " .

Is it true? No

How do I react how do I feel when I think that thought?

I feel sad and scared. I feel like something that helps me hurts me, that maybe

Im fooling myself somehow. I wonder if Im crazy and whacky and into cultish like

things rather than doing what " normal " people do.

Who would i be without that thought?

Well, Id be less in my head about that topic. I'd feel calmer and Id just be

doing what Im doing. hm...if I was truly incapable of having thatt.....well if I

was having a stressful thought I might do the work on it or might not. With the

work I would be in my head thinking while Im doing the work. I would not feel

stressed that Im in my head during those times.

Turnaround:

The work takes me out of my head and into my body.

- When I question whether a stressfull thought is true and I get a no, I can let

it go, sometimes only for the time being. But I let it go often. And then Im

able to live more fluidly.

- Since doing the work I have improved dramatically in my functioning from a

place of panic attacks and serious in-headed craziness, to being able to earn a

living again and connect with friends.

- I am doing less self medicating, workaholism and womanizing which were other

ways to distract myself from thoughts. And I have been doing the work.

Feels better.

-Jon R.

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> Subject: Something is wrong with me

> To: Loving-what-is

> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 7:50 PM

> There are a few forums I post at depending on the subject...

> in two

> of these forums I have been slammed recently. In one case

> I posed a

> question of whether a certain video of Obama was true or

> just a scare

> tactic. Because the title of the video involved the word

> " Jew " I was

> told to f*ck myself with a rusty spike. In another forum,

> I

> mentioned how perspective is needed in the Israel/

> Palestine

> situation. I was told I must this somehow meant I approved

> of

> children singing " burn the jews " because the

> video I mentioned above

> supposedly has this in it.

>

> I have never seen this video (nor has anyone except one

> reporter I

> guess, people are just talking about it) and I really am

> about as

> apolitical as can be. For some reason, I got pulled into

> something,

> made a comment or two which seemed fairly innocuous to me,

> and have

> suffered the consequences.

>

> So either there's some wacky energy at work today or I

> am screwed

> up. I need some perspective so here goes...

>

> Something is wrong with me.

>

> Is it true? Maybe

> Can you absolutely know it's true? No

> When I think that thought I feel pathetic. I question my

> own

> sanity. I feel as if others might be noticing something in

> me that I

> don't or can't see myself. I feel like defending

> myself... and when

> I do, I feel like a loser. I end up feeling slightly

> insane as I

> keep trying to figure out what is wrong with me. I then

> end up

> feeling this sick for approval knowing I won't get it.

> I feel

> isolated and stupid. What it does is highlite the

> emptiness within.

> It shows me how I keep looking OUT THERE for the fix, the

> answer, the

> hole to be closed.

>

> Without the thought, I can experience others'

> dissatisfaction and not

> take it personally. Their opinions have to do with their

> thoughts...

> not mine. I get to be in peace.

>

> TA:

>

> Something is not wrong with me.

> -I have a right to my opinions. My opinions don't have

> to match

> anybody's elses. There is no opinion better than

> another.

>

> Something is wrong with my thinking.

> -Yes...My thinking wants to control others, to make them

> " like " me.

> -My thinking says others' opinions are more important

> than my own.

> -My thinking discounts self-love and self-valuation in

> favor of the

> thoughts of others.

>

> Something is wrong with others

> -Could be. Their views and comments have nothing to do

> with me.

>

> ---So yeah. This is a big one. Mostly because it so

> highlites my

> long, long struggle with self-acceptance and feeling of the

> hole

> within. It almost feels kind of cleansing though... Like,

> now that

> you *know* you aren't liked, now what?? One of my

> biggest fears (the

> biggest?) that of actually being yelled at and told I am

> the scum of

> the earth happened. I can actually smile at that.

>

> Until I think about what you all might say. Then I get

> nervous and

> anxious again. So this is not over for me. But it's a

> start.

[Guest guest]

April,

So some thoughts here - how about JYN worksheets on the people that

responded to you, or even about the groups as a whole? Or about

Democrats or Republicans - whoever it is that comes up for you.

You say " because the title of the video involved the word " Jew " I was

told to f*ck myself with a rusty spike. " Can you absolutely know this

is true - even if they said this was the reason?

You also say " I really am about as apolitical as can be " - can you

find places where you are not? This could also be inquired into.

For the love of truth and all that :-)

Jon

[Guest guest]

Something is wrong with me

1. Is it true that …?

(Wait for the heart's response).

Yes, I am not like other people

2. Can I know for sure?

No, Maybe I am the right one, everyone else are wrong ;-)

3. How do I react, when I believe that thought?

I feel bad

Depressed

Down

a) Describe the feelings that happen physically when I believe that thought.

As if there is something heavy in my stomach

My heart is heavy also

Where and when did that thought first occur to you?

When I compare myself to other people

People who function " normally " :

Go to work

Have children

Married, ext...

c) How do I treat that person, myself, and others?

.. When I believe that thought?

I go to bed, and want to sleep

d) Who was I before that thought first occurred to me?

I was living my life, happily

e) Does that thought bring peace or stress into my life?

Stress

f) Where does my mind travel (into the past and/or future?)

.. When I believe that thought?

I find proofs that I am right:

I don't work ext....

g) Whose business am I in when I think that thought?

My

h) What do I fear would happen if I didn't believe that thought?

I would not have motivation to change

Does that thought bring stress or peace into my life?

Stress

4. Who would I be without the thought " … " ?

Drop the story just for a moment, and describe what you see.

I would be lighter

Turn the thought around

Something is right with me

How is your turnaround as true or truer? Give examples:

Well, I have friends who love me

Turn the thought around

My thinking is wrong

How is your turnaround as true or truer? Give examples:

Grrr

[Guest guest]

> People who function " normally " :

> Go to work

> Have children

> Married, ext...

Tami,

I'm trying to start a 'black sheep' support group. Would you like to join?

[Guest guest]

I go to work (its part time.. but i do a little work )

im married with two adult kids.. --

And i still dont feel normal..

people should be normal is that true..?

I dont think there is a normal.

something is wrong with me.. also.. my thinking. rh

- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

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> Tami,

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> I'm trying to start a 'black sheep' support group. Would you like to join?

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[Guest guest]

> Tami,

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> I'm trying to start a 'black sheep' support group. Would you like to join?

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May I moderate it?

[Guest guest]

Might wanna try the proof of truth with this one.

Whats your proof that something is wrong with you.

And use inquiry with those

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> Something is wrong with me

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> 1. Is it true that …?

> (Wait for the heart's response).

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> Yes, I am not like other people

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> 2. Can I know for sure?

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> No, Maybe I am the right one, everyone else are wrong ;-)

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> 3. How do I react, when I believe that thought?

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> I feel bad

> Depressed

> Down

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> a) Describe the feelings that happen physically when I believe that thought.

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> As if there is something heavy in my stomach

> My heart is heavy also

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> Where and when did that thought first occur to you?

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> When I compare myself to other people

> People who function " normally " :

> Go to work

> Have children

> Married, ext...

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> c) How do I treat that person, myself, and others?

> . When I believe that thought?

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> I go to bed, and want to sleep

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> d) Who was I before that thought first occurred to me?

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> I was living my life, happily

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> e) Does that thought bring peace or stress into my life?

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> Stress

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> f) Where does my mind travel (into the past and/or future?)

> . When I believe that thought?

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> I find proofs that I am right:

> I don't work ext....

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> g) Whose business am I in when I think that thought?

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> My

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> h) What do I fear would happen if I didn't believe that thought?

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> I would not have motivation to change

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> Does that thought bring stress or peace into my life?

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> Stress

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> 4. Who would I be without the thought " … " ?

>

> Drop the story just for a moment, and describe what you see.

>

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> I would be lighter

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> Turn the thought around

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> Something is right with me

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> How is your turnaround as true or truer? Give examples:

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> Well, I have friends who love me

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> Turn the thought around

> My thinking is wrong

>

> How is your turnaround as true or truer? Give examples:

> Grrr

>

[Guest guest]

Good suggestion! People who don't work are abnormal, IIT?

People who don't have children are abnormal, IIT?

People who are single are abnormal, IIT?

People who work, have a partner and children are happier than those who do not,

IIT?

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> Subject: Re: Something is wrong with me

> To: Loving-what-is

> Received: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:52 AM

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[Guest guest]

People who don't work are abnormal, IIT?

Well, people who do 'the work' aren't normal, if normal means being like the

majority.

Would you rather not do 'the work' and be like everybody else, unhappy and

stressing due to their uninvestigated stories? Or would you rather be abnormal,

and live in the Kingdom of Heaven?

One of the Abnormals

[Guest guest]

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> > Tami,

> >

> > I'm trying to start a 'black sheep' support group. Would you like to join?

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> May I moderate it?

>

Certainly, if you're willing to wear the black sheep costume that is mandatory

for the moderator. When you have it, email me the pic and I'll make sure it

passes specifications.