Re: Jena Re: Doctor's are often insensitive or naive or both

December 19, 2006

LOL Jena,

Kind of took it and ran huh? lol too funny! You are! Depression is a very big

part of Fibromyalgia. Not saying that everyone with Fibro is depressed because

that isn't so. It is just easier to get depressed having the illness as the

illness can and will limit us on social life, home skills, you name it and fibro

will set limits on us. This is where the depression comes in and some just can't

shake it, or it just hits them harder than others and debilitates them. I've

been on both sides of the coin. Don't you have fibro too Jena? I thought I read

that you did, might be wrong though. Perhaps your aunt doesn't hurt as much as

your mother does? Or hers isn't as severe as your mothers? Great possibility on

both accounts. Anyway, lol you just struck me funny!

Ask your Mama if she has ever taken Cymbalta for an antidepressant? I was put

on that when I was in a very deep depression. The max dose is 60mg and that is

usually what every one is put on. I don't know if they even make a lower dose,

surely they would. I haven't checked that part out. I do know that you can take

up to 120mg per day, which is, of course, double the recommended amount, which

is what I take, 120mg per day. They also will give people who have Neuropathy

and it helps the nerve pain. I have Neuropathy as well, so it helps me along

with the Neurontin. So, ask her if she is taking Cymbalta for depression and she

can take 120mg of course with dr's orders. Also, the doc can add something like

I take, umm Trazadone at bedtime. It is an antidepressant as well, but a very

cheap one. It's old on the market, so this is why it's so cheap. This could

really help her. At least get her out of bed!

Tommie

Re: Doctor's are often insensitive or naive or both

Thanks Tommie for allowing me to vent my anger at this particular, so

called, doctor. I had been trying to figure out who I could write that would

reprimand this doctor, or at least let him know that his conduct was

unprofessional

and hurtful. I know now who to write--the AMA.

As to trigger point injections, I have had them injected into the muscles in

my neck; those that spasm and cause terrible pain. My first injections--I've

had a total of 3 series of injections--worked like magic. I had the

injections and then I drove home, about a 15 minute drive. By the time I

reached home

the pain in my neck muscles had begun to diminish. Within an hour the pain,

at least about 90% of it was gone. I was so happy and I thought I had finally

found, after years of searching, the magic bullet that would relieve my daily

pain. For about 10 days I didn't have to take any pain relievers so the pain

was virtually gone plus I didn't have to go through the side effects caused

by pain medication. But the 2nd set of injections, 6 weeks later, hardly

worked at all. The 3rd injections were the same; they had no effect at all on

my

pain. The pain management doc has now given up on trigger point injections

and is talking about injecting Myobloc into my neck muscles. What I don't

understand is why did the 1st injections work so well and then the following

injections didn't work at all. Also, why is the doc giving up on trigger point

so

soon when it had worked like magic in the beginning. I don't even know for

sure what a trigger point is but it has to do with areas of the affected

muscle

that, after constant strain, become different in some way from the rest of

the muscle. My pain doc found the trigger points by just feeling with his

fingers along the base of the affected muscle. The medicine injected is a

local

anasthetic, something like Novacaine only longer lasting, and a steroid to

relieve the inflammation in that muscle. It had been almost 10 years since I

had

been pain free when I had my first injections. So for about 10 days after

the 1st injections I was almost totally pain free. Lortab only relieves maybe

50 to 60% of the pain. But now I have a lot of hope that there is something

out there that will help me. The 10 pain free days and not having to take pain

relievers was like a miracle. So miracles do exist but you have to look

awfully hard to find them.

Thanks again for the advice concerning the Idiot doctor who had no idea just

how much his words affected me. Soon, after I've written the AMA, maybe

he'll start giving serious thought to what he says, and the negative effect

his

words have on Chronic Pain Patients.

December 19, 2006

Jena,

If you are speaking of neck surgery and the doc going in from the front? My doc

went in from the front to do a fusion at C6/7 level and did quite well. I

haven't had any problems with my neck to speak of since the surgery. Things are

a lot better with it. And the surgery was worse on the graft from the front

right hip bone than the fusion in the neck. That was a breeze.

I just thought I'd add that lil bit of info!

~Tommie

Jeff, I can sure sympathize with you on those neck muscle spasms. the only way

that I can get relief is a block. I have a bulging disc at C 5-6 pinching a

nerve. When my blocks wear off my husband will rub and massage trying to relax

the muscles but he says that he can feel them knotting up. and there is no

relief,. I also have flexiril I can take for it but that doesn't do it either.

I am very lucky in the fact that my PM Dr is also a Spine specialist. and he

knows just where to go for all my problems. the first block i had lasted 18

months. Talk to your Dr about one of the blocks. I think it is called a Facet

Block.

oh, and if he is one of these Dr's that wants to go in from the front of your

neck to do it. Tell him to forget. I had one of those and it was a nightmare I

will never let that Dr touch me again. He was doing do it for my ulnar nerve

neuropathy. I forgot about my arm alright only because my neck hurt so bad.

Jena

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December 19, 2006

My aunt says I have all the symptoms and my injuries probably set it off. but I

haven't been diagnosis with Fibro.

Oh Tommie, my Mama is a whole different story. She takes max of Zoloft. And so

many other meds. I would not even try to list. Most of Mama's depression comes

from loosing her son. After a long illness with diabetes.

Mama however is very sensitive to some meds. Her Dr. did try her on Cymbalta.

and all she did was run into walls. I don't mean this in anyway but concern for

my Mama but everyday when she gets up. Something is wrong. She NEVER has a good

day.

But, then If I lost my son I don't know if I would either.

Jena

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Re: Doctor's are often insensitive or naive or both

Thanks Tommie for allowing me to vent my anger at this particular, so

called, doctor. I had been trying to figure out who I could write that would

reprimand this doctor, or at least let him know that his conduct was

unprofessional

and hurtful. I know now who to write--the AMA.

As to trigger point injections, I have had them injected into the muscles in

my neck; those that spasm and cause terrible pain. My first injections--I've

had a total of 3 series of injections--worked like magic. I had the

injections and then I drove home, about a 15 minute drive. By the time I

reached home

the pain in my neck muscles had begun to diminish. Within an hour the pain,

at least about 90% of it was gone. I was so happy and I thought I had finally

found, after years of searching, the magic bullet that would relieve my daily

pain. For about 10 days I didn't have to take any pain relievers so the pain

was virtually gone plus I didn't have to go through the side effects caused

by pain medication. But the 2nd set of injections, 6 weeks later, hardly

worked at all. The 3rd injections were the same; they had no effect at all on

my

pain. The pain management doc has now given up on trigger point injections

and is talking about injecting Myobloc into my neck muscles. What I don't

understand is why did the 1st injections work so well and then the following

injections didn't work at all. Also, why is the doc giving up on trigger point

so

soon when it had worked like magic in the beginning. I don't even know for

sure what a trigger point is but it has to do with areas of the affected

muscle

that, after constant strain, become different in some way from the rest of

the muscle. My pain doc found the trigger points by just feeling with his

fingers along the base of the affected muscle. The medicine injected is a

local

anasthetic, something like Novacaine only longer lasting, and a steroid to

relieve the inflammation in that muscle. It had been almost 10 years since I

had

been pain free when I had my first injections. So for about 10 days after

the 1st injections I was almost totally pain free. Lortab only relieves maybe

50 to 60% of the pain. But now I have a lot of hope that there is something

out there that will help me. The 10 pain free days and not having to take pain

relievers was like a miracle. So miracles do exist but you have to look

awfully hard to find them.

Thanks again for the advice concerning the Idiot doctor who had no idea just

how much his words affected me. Soon, after I've written the AMA, maybe

he'll start giving serious thought to what he says, and the negative effect

his

words have on Chronic Pain Patients.

December 19, 2006

no it wasn't surgery. it was a block for the ulnar nerve neuropathy. And it was

done by a quack!!!!!!!

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Re: Jena Re: Doctor's are often insensitive or naive or

both

Jena,

If you are speaking of neck surgery and the doc going in from the front? My

doc went in from the front to do a fusion at C6/7 level and did quite well. I