Re: Not so good this time!

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Dave, I take Lopid for the tri. and it's brought them down from the 500's to

under 200.

Tottie

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Not so good this time!

> Well, I guess it's my turn for not-so-good results..

>

> HbA1c - 5.9 (lab normal 4.3-5.8)

> HDL - 37 (normal 45-150)

> LDL - 99 (normal 130-159)

> Cholest - 189 (normal 150-240)

> Trig - 266 (normal 30-160)

> Fasting Glucose - 109

>

> What's up with that? Geez, and I thought I had been eating right and

> doing the right things.. NOT.

> So, how does one reduce Triglycerides? Bummer.

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Dave Orcutt wrote:

<< HbA1c - 5.9 (lab normal 4.3-5.8)

HDL - 37 (normal 45-150)

LDL - 99 (normal 130-159)

Cholest - 189 (normal 150-240)

Trig - 266 (normal 30-160)

Fasting Glucose - 109

What's up with that? Geez, and I thought I had been eating right and

doing the right things.. NOT.

So, how does one reduce Triglycerides? >>

Well, I think I can cheer you up. Your HbA1c looks fine to me, as does your

LDL, your total cholesterol, and your fasting glucose. I'd like to see your

HDL over 40. I think your lab is unrealistic with its Normal Range for

triglycerides. There was a U.S. study that found those with the best health

outcomes has triglycerides in the 170-220 range, and another study in, I

believe, Korea found those with triglycerides in the 200-250 range had the

greatest longevity.

Susie

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Susie wrote:

>

> Dave Orcutt wrote:

>

> << HbA1c - 5.9 (lab normal 4.3-5.8)

> HDL - 37 (normal 45-150)

> LDL - 99 (normal 130-159)

> Cholest - 189 (normal 150-240)

> Trig - 266 (normal 30-160)

> Fasting Glucose - 109

>

> What's up with that? Geez, and I thought I had been eating right and

> doing the right things.. NOT.

> So, how does one reduce Triglycerides? >>

>

> Well, I think I can cheer you up. Your HbA1c looks fine to me, as does your

> LDL, your total cholesterol, and your fasting glucose. I'd like to see your

> HDL over 40. I think your lab is unrealistic with its Normal Range for

> triglycerides. There was a U.S. study that found those with the best health

> outcomes has triglycerides in the 170-220 range, and another study in, I

> believe, Korea found those with triglycerides in the 200-250 range had the

> greatest longevity.

Well, I guess that's not all that bad then. It was a little un-nerving

as my doc had them re-test me as she was surprised to see the change

from normal readings that I exhibited. I'm just trying to put my finger

on the reason for the change. The only thing I can figure is a change in

level of activity. Last year I was building an addition to our home.

This year I'm enjoying it.

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Tottie wrote:

>

> Dave, I take Lopid for the tri. and it's brought them down from the 500's to

> under 200.

> Tottie

> Type 2, Dx Oct 98, Avandia, Glucophage, Lopid, Prinivil, Paxil, Seroquel,

> MDI H & NPH

> Check out my Furry Faced Buddies at:

> http://www.ezaccess.net/tottie/totties%20page.html

> Not so good this time!

>

> > Well, I guess it's my turn for not-so-good results..

> >

> > HbA1c - 5.9 (lab normal 4.3-5.8)

> > HDL - 37 (normal 45-150)

> > LDL - 99 (normal 130-159)

> > Cholest - 189 (normal 150-240)

> > Trig - 266 (normal 30-160)

> > Fasting Glucose - 109

> >

> > What's up with that? Geez, and I thought I had been eating right and

> > doing the right things.. NOT.

> > So, how does one reduce Triglycerides? Bummer.

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Susie wrote:

>

> Dave, you wrote:

>

> << I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason for the change. The only

> thing I can figure is a change in

> level of activity. Last year I was building an addition to our home. This

> year I'm enjoying it. >>

>

> I think you hit the nail on the head (a little " addition building " pun

> there). Probably just bearing down a bit harder, via more physical activity,

> will have you right back where you want to be next go-round.

Someday they'll have a " perfect-size " pill for all of us, and all we'll

have to do is ask for the size we want to be...

Thinking about it, that would sure give a rest from all the

investigation he is doing.

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Dave, you wrote:

<< I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason for the change. The only

thing I can figure is a change in

level of activity. Last year I was building an addition to our home. This

year I'm enjoying it. >>

I think you hit the nail on the head (a little " addition building " pun

there). Probably just bearing down a bit harder, via more physical activity,

will have you right back where you want to be next go-round.

Susie

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Dave

> Well, I guess that's not all that bad then.

> ...I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason

> for the change.

If Susie is right with her 170-220 mg/dl then my triglycerides are much too

low. My last test gave 75 for the laboratory normal range of 50-150 which I

thought was all right. However, it doesn't look so good if 170 is going to

be the bottom of the normal range (low triglycerides are said to be a

symptom of thyroid gland disorders)!

One book I have says high triglycerides can be caused by bad nutrition but

also by liver problems. The same book says that the 'normal' triglyceride

range rises with age but for working adults is: triglycerides normal <200,

borderline 200-300, critical >300.

The recommendations for reducing triglycerides are:

- avoid animal fats, eggs and fatty cheese

- use only high-value, cold-pressed vegetable oil such as sunseed and olive

oil

- increase your daily intake of indigestible fiber

- drink at least 2 liters of water or unsweetened fruit tea per day

- eat primarily vegetarian

- eat less sugar and white flour

- eat garlic and artichokes

- stop smoking

- avoid stress

- reduce weight

- keep on the move

That is something like a horoscope - one of the recommendations is bound to

be on target for most of the readers! If stress is really a cause, don't

tell me that you built a house without going through any stress!

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Thornton wrote:

>

> Dave

>

> > Trig - 266 (normal 30-160) ....

> > So, how does one reduce Triglycerides?

>

> The way it is taught in Germany (and I have the book in front of me) is

> that:

>

> " The concentration of triglycerides in plasma, also a risk factor for

> arterisclerosis, is raised by an excessive intake of saturated fat acids. An

> excessive energy intake generally leads to a rise in cholesterine and

> triglyceride concentration in the blood. "

>

> The recommendation is that, since they compete for the same set of enzymes,

> the intake of saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat should be

> approximately equal (each maximum 10% of the total energy intake). Try

> leaving out all butter and using more olive oil, eating less meat and more

> fish. Try eating a few avocados each week and leave out as much fatty meat

> as you can.

>

> One thing is certain, you are eating too much saturated fat and probably too

> much total fat.

>

> Your Aspartame will not help you with this one!

No doubt! The real problem is that the only change with me over the past

year is activity level. As I said before, I had an addition to build on

my house, and now my waist is what is building.

My eating has not changed: We eat no butter, use only olive oil to cook

with, and eat mostly chicken (very little fish). I use a spread called

Brummel & Brown which is very low in fat content.

I think this is a classic case of NME (not moving enough).. I need to

start getting on my treadmill at least every other day, and I need to

get off the computer and get outside and get motivated to do something.

Homeostasis, for diabetics, is not a given, and requires effort. I seem

to have forgotten that.

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Thornton wrote:

>

> Dave

>

> > Well, I guess that's not all that bad then.

> > ...I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason

> > for the change.

>

> If Susie is right with her 170-220 mg/dl then my triglycerides are much too

> low. My last test gave 75 for the laboratory normal range of 50-150 which I

> thought was all right. However, it doesn't look so good if 170 is going to

> be the bottom of the normal range (low triglycerides are said to be a

> symptom of thyroid gland disorders)!

>

> One book I have says high triglycerides can be caused by bad nutrition but

> also by liver problems. The same book says that the 'normal' triglyceride

> range rises with age but for working adults is: triglycerides normal <200,

> borderline 200-300, critical >300.

Anything that mentions liver gets me concerned being on Glucophage. As

for age, I'm 61 so I guess that could be part of it.

>

> The recommendations for reducing triglycerides are:

>

> - avoid animal fats, eggs and fatty cheese

> - use only high-value, cold-pressed vegetable oil such as sunseed and olive

> oil

> - increase your daily intake of indigestible fiber

> - drink at least 2 liters of water or unsweetened fruit tea per day

> - eat primarily vegetarian

> - eat less sugar and white flour

> - eat garlic and artichokes

> - stop smoking

> - avoid stress

> - reduce weight

> - keep on the move

All good suggestions. The smoking went 4 years ago next month,

thankfully.

>

> That is something like a horoscope - one of the recommendations is bound to

> be on target for most of the readers! If stress is really a cause, don't

> tell me that you built a house without going through any stress!

You're right there. I had numerous contractor problems, including having

to fire the first contractor after he was into the job two months (and

nine hours of work).

The stress is now resolved and I'm (perhaps) overdoing the recovery

phase.

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Thornton wrote:

<< If Susie is right with her 170-220 mg/dl then my triglycerides are much

too

low. My last test gave 75 for the laboratory normal range of 50-150 ... >>

, the most curious study was released not too long ago, showing that

people with unusually low triglycerides have a significantly greater risk of

dying from oddball events: work injuries, auto accidents, suicides, etc. We

don't know why.

I'm pretty sure I don't have that study, but it would be worth searching

for!

Susie