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Penny,

send your address to Larry or Marsha and get a copy of the leaky gut

syndrome it talks about uc and arthritus.

Peg

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> Hi,

> I'm seeing my GI today and I intend to ask him about SAMe. The

article in

> Newsweek really intrigued me. I have arthritis and it would be great

to have

> something to help the arthritis and my liver at the same time. Also,

it is

> used in Germany and my son's girlfriend's stepmother is going to ask

her

> doctor (she lives in furt) about it..... she's on vacation now,

but I

> should have some news around Aug. 1st.

>

> Penny

>

> Phil & Peggy Alfeld wrote:

>

> > Some of you may find this interesting. Has anybody ever use the

> > supplement SAMe? The part about diet just reinforces many other

> > articles about diet being soooo important.

> > Peg

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> > Subject: Greg emailing from work

> > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:02:29 -0400

> >

> > To: " 'palfeld@...' "

> >

> > Hi Peg,

> >

> > The one item that is most " on target " for Phil's condition is a

recent

> > Newsweek article, which you can access over the internet at:

> >

> > http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/issue/01_99b/printed/us/so/he0101_1.

htm

> >

> > It doesn't address liver problems until near the end of the article:

> > " Studies suggest it may help normalize liver function in patients

with

> > cirrhosis, hepatitis and cholestasis--blockage of the bile ducts. "

> >

> > If you have any problems accessing the article, let me know and

I'll fax

> > or snail-mail it.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Greg

>

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Norm,

I forwarded the article from Greg (a friend of mine) on to the group

about the SAMe. The article said it is very expensive, just how

expensive is it. Let us know how it works. I am the wife of Phil, a

PSC patient. I take anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medication

(Paxil/Buspar). I am trying to wein myself off of them. My job makes

it almost necessary to stay on. I have IBS and when I tried St. 's

Wort it irritated my bowel and I had to stop taking it. It would be

nice to find an alternative to the Paxil & Buspar.

Peg (Wife of Phil - PSC & UC)

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> Greg,

>

> Thanks a million for the article on SAMe. I've been taking it for

> about two or three weeks now. I feel great but was feeling great

before

> taking it so am hoping that the anti-sclerosing factor attributed to

it's

> use is accurate.

>

> Norm

>

>

>

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Norm,

I would also like to contact Vitamin Research for a price on a

multi-vitamin in a liquid form which Phil's liver doctor told him to

use. I guess the liquid form is better absorbed. The bottle we got was

almost $16. I'm not sure how many doses. He says it tastes gross but

is able to mix it with a little juice and then drink a bigger glass of

juice to get it down.

Peg

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> Peg,

> I get my SAMe from Vitamin Research Products, a very reliable

company that

> sells their products by direct mail, which means they're fresher and

> generally less expensive. I don't know if that's the case with SAMe,

> however. Their retail price is $39.95 for twenty 200 mg. enterically

coated

> tablets. You can get 20% off if you give them # 114019....I asked them

> about this and they said it would be OK for our group, which would

make the

> 20 tablets $31.95. That works out to be $1.60 per tablet. You might

take

> these figures to your local health food or grocery store to see how

they

> compare. I just read that Penny found a place she could get SAMe for

$20

> for 20 tablets. Make sure the dosage is the same, etc. The number for

> Vitamin Research Products is

> 1- if you're interested in receiving a catalog from them.

> I've been taking one 200mg SAMe tablet in the morning on an empty

stomach.

> I've taken as many as two per day and as I said I've been feeling

great. I

> was feeling pretty good anyway so can't honestly tell if the SAMe is

partly

> responsible, although I think it may have given me a little boost. I

was

> sure stoked about the information that it may help our ductal

sclerosing.

> You probably wouldn't perceive any perceptible change for that

action. Hope

> this helps.

> Norm

>

>

> At 04:06 PM 7/13/99 -0700, you wrote:

> >Norm,

> >I forwarded the article from Greg (a friend of mine) on to the group

> >about the SAMe. The article said it is very expensive, just how

> >expensive is it. Let us know how it works. I am the wife of Phil, a

> >PSC patient. I take anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medication

> >(Paxil/Buspar). I am trying to wein myself off of them. My job

makes

> >it almost necessary to stay on. I have IBS and when I tried St.

's

> >Wort it irritated my bowel and I had to stop taking it. It would be

> >nice to find an alternative to the Paxil & Buspar.

> >Peg (Wife of Phil - PSC & UC)

> >

> > wrote:

> >original article:/group//?start=3021

> >> Greg,

> >>

> >> Thanks a million for the article on SAMe. I've been taking it

for

> >> about two or three weeks now. I feel great but was feeling great

> >before

> >> taking it so am hoping that the anti-sclerosing factor attributed

to

> >it's

> >> use is accurate.

> >>

> >> Norm

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Peg,

If you want a Vitamin Research Products catalog to check out their

products and prices call them at 1-. If you decide to order

anything at all give them the 114019 number for your 20% off.

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Patti,

I keep getting a " no longer available " message when I try this site.

Any help?

Jodi, 's Mom

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Subject: SAMe

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:20:26 -0300

We are just now able to buy this product where I live...I

have found a wonderful web site with so much info. It

is....http://lef.org/protocols/prtcl-068.shtml....please

read it as it gives me some hope and promise for anyone with

liver disease. We will know Friday if my husband has PSC

but either way, we are buying this product and trying it.

It is used widely in Europe for years with great success.

Among its claims are the ability to reverse

cirrhosis.......It is a substance that occurs naturally in

our bodies and affects every cell in our bodies...oh well,

just read it for yourself and decide.

Patti

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Patti,

Very interesting info and easy to understand. Lot of supplements. The

part about chemicals was interesting since many of the group have been

exposed to toxic chemicals. Please give me your info in response to my

poll. Thanks

Peg-wife of Phil (56) UC 30 yrs, ds PSC 12/98 working towards listing

Patti McCormick wrote:

> Jodi, I just tried the site and it worked for me....let me give it to

> you again..

> http://lef.org/protocols/prtcl-068.shtml

> I hope it works for you, it was a wealth of info, actually Mike just

> went to the Dr. an hour ago for his B12 shot and told her about

> it....she's from England and told us to go for it!

> Patti

>

> Jodi Rhoades wrote:

>

>> Patti,

>> I keep getting a " no longer available " message when I try this site.

>>

>> Any help?

>> Jodi, 's Mom

>>

>>

>> Reply-To: egroups

>> To: egroups

>> Subject: SAMe

>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:20:26 -0300

>>

>> We are just now able to buy this product where I live...I

>> have found a wonderful web site with so much info. It

>> is....http://lef.org/protocols/prtcl-068.shtml....please

>> read it as it gives me some hope and promise for anyone with

>> liver disease. We will know Friday if my husband has PSC

>> but either way, we are buying this product and trying it.

>> It is used widely in Europe for years with great success.

>> Among its claims are the ability to reverse

>> cirrhosis.......It is a substance that occurs naturally in

>> our bodies and affects every cell in our bodies...oh well,

>> just read it for yourself and decide.

>>

>> Patti

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Peggy,

I didn't really follow the poll cause I didn't really

know if we qualified for it, basic info is Mike is 52 yrs. old, diagnosed

with UC 10 years ago (in remission since starting milk thistle), and awaiting

results from his MRCP on Friday, possible diagnosis of PSC. Liver

problems on and off for about 10 years.

Patti

Peggy Alfeld wrote:

Patti,

Very interesting info and easy to understand. Lot of supplements.

The

part about chemicals was interesting since many of the group have been

exposed to toxic chemicals. Please give me your info in response

to my

poll. Thanks

Peg-wife of Phil (56) UC 30 yrs, ds PSC 12/98 working towards listing

Patti McCormick wrote:

> Jodi, I just tried the site and it worked for me....let me give

it to

> you again..

> http://lef.org/protocols/prtcl-068.shtml

> I hope it works for you, it was a wealth of info, actually Mike just

> went to the Dr. an hour ago for his B12 shot and told her about

> it....she's from England and told us to go for it!

> Patti

>

> Jodi Rhoades wrote:

>

>> Patti,

>> I keep getting a "no longer available" message when I try this site.

>>

>> Any help?

>> Jodi, 's Mom

>>

>>

>> Reply-To: egroups

>> To: egroups

>> Subject: SAMe

>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:20:26 -0300

>>

>> We are just now able to buy this product where I live...I

>> have found a wonderful web site with so much info. It

>> is....http://lef.org/protocols/prtcl-068.shtml....please

>> read it as it gives me some hope and promise for anyone with

>> liver disease. We will know Friday if my husband has PSC

>> but either way, we are buying this product and trying it.

>> It is used widely in Europe for years with great success.

>> Among its claims are the ability to reverse

>> cirrhosis.......It is a substance that occurs naturally in

>> our bodies and affects every cell in our bodies...oh well,

>> just read it for yourself and decide.

>>

>> Patti

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I finally talked with my infectious disease doctor yesterday afternoon.

He has no objections to my taking SAMe. He's a skeptic, but I told him

I was desperate for some relief from the joint pain so he said it was

O.K. with him. None of the doctors had any objections...other than the

fact that I might be wasting my money. I am not changing any other

meds. or treatments; I am merely adding SAMe.

Penny

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