Re: Chills/Fever -- Cholangitis?

[Guest guest]

Erwin,

Whenever cholangitis episodes hit me there are no nose, sinus, throat

symptoms along with the chills and fever. Other symptoms that usually go

along with it is abdominal pain, normally in the upper right quadrant and

overall weakness (tired, weak, blah). Don't like to be guessing about what

you have, but with the flu-like symptoms you describe that's what it sounds

like. Still a good idea to check in with your doc.

Bill

> Chills/Fever -- Cholangitis?

>

>

> Three days ago I started coming down with what I thought was a cold or

> flu/virus. Symptoms were soreness of the back, congested nose and sinus,

> throat soreness. After a day and a half of this, I developed a low grade

> fever. Last night I had chills. My question is to all of you who have been

> unfortunate enough to experience what some people in the group are calling

> episodes of cholangitis, did you have other symptoms associated

> with cold/flu?

> How do you know whether this is a run of the mill winter

> cold/flu/virus, or

> something related to PSC?

> Have you been told to treat fever/chills as if it is caused by

> the PSC? Does

> that mean taking rifampin?

>

> And by the way, have any of you seen the study in Medline from

> the September

> 1998 issue of Gastroenterology reporting clinical remission of

> cholestastis

> after taking rifampin? I will dig out the abstract and post it to

> the group.

> When I told my doctor about the study, he said " Sounds like

> someone should do

> a clinical trial on that promptly. " Thanks for any info you can

> pass along.

> Erwin P.

>

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[Guest guest]

Bill,

Thanks for the note. I followed your advice and called the doctor, who

confirmed

there are a lot of people with the flu, and that since most cases are viral

there is no point to taking an antibiotic. He shared your assessment that it

is unlikely I am having a cholangitis episode. Thanks to everyone else who

weighed in on this -- your comments were very helpful. Erwin P.

<<Whenever cholangitis episodes hit me there are no nose, sinus, throat

symptoms along with the chills and fever. Other symptoms that usually go

along with it is abdominal pain, normally in the upper right quadrant and

overall weakness (tired, weak, blah). Don't like to be guessing about what

you have, but with the flu-like symptoms you describe that's what it sounds

like. Still a good idea to check in with your doc.

Bill>>

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[Guest guest]

Erwin--

I had the exact same symptoms the weekend after Christmas.

Had to miss work two days w/fever. I chalked it up to a cold

that had settled in my back & chest, but now you've got me

wondering. I'm on antibiotics constantly (have been since '87

colectomy surgery). I tried to go off for a couple days to give

my system a break from antibiotics and then the above

symptoms set in. I started back on my antibiotics on the 3rd

day of symptoms & they miraculously began disappearing

real quick. Hmm...

C.

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[Guest guest]

C.,

You might consider asking your doctor whether they have any objection to your

taking " probiotic " supplements to help your g.i. tract deal with the

consequences of taking antibiotics every day. There are a variety of

formulas/products that help restore intestinal balance—help you reacquire the

" good " bacteria you lose when you take antibiotics over the long term. For

example, I take a product sold by Jarrow; I take 1-2 pills after lunch and

again after dinner. Its stored in the refrigerator (its just a small,

ubobtrusive bottle). But most of the major supplement companies sell these

products, and they are probably all pretty good.

As with everything, it would be advisable to check with a doctor first, but I

have no hesitation in recommending you look into it. Erwin P.

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[Guest guest]

Erwin & Group:

I never heard of " probiotic " . Would this help w/my duodenal ulcer, too,

I wonder? I've really been having a horrible time w/nausea. I was unable

to sleep last night. Got up & read for 2 1/2 hr. Prevacid, which I was

taking for my ulcer, causes me problems--makes me tense and not

myself at all. My Mayo dr. has been trying to get hold of me ( & I him)

he's thinking of switching me to Prilosec. Has anyone heard of that one?

I'm about ready (seriously) to give up on trying to eat. Eating small

amounts, but miserable shortly thereafter. Sticking to pudding &

graham crackers today. Anybody have any suggestions???

C.

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[Guest guest]

C.

I was on prilosec many years ago. At that time...it was only legal for

short term use in the united states (on one month, off for 3 months) I had a

hard time sleeping when I was on the med, and I think it might be what caused

some of my liver damage. But...at the time that I was put on it, my stomache

was VERY bad (vomiting blood) and it healed it up quickly.

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[Guest guest]

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Oh no, that's scary. Just what I want is more liver

damage. I certainly don't need anything to keep me

awake either. Hopefully it won't. The dr. put me on it

today. Time will tell......

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[Guest guest]

That's interesting that you would mention " rifampin " b/c during my recent 9

day hospital stay my dr. started me on rifampin for the itching. Ins doesn't

cover it and I didn't see a huge improvement in itching so I probably won't be

taking it.

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