Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 hello, I am new here. I have a question about spinning. Can someone explain it? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Dear , Welcome to the group and the work! What the mind does is often referred to as " spinning " : you think of a thought, hop to another one, and hop and hop, and you don't get to catch the former one. Or any of them. When investigating, you put your mind on paper, because once you notice you are spinning, it is much easier to get back to your thought. Love, > hello, > I am new here. I have a question about spinning. Can someone explain > it? > thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Thanks ! thanks so much for the explanation...for some reason I thought it had to do with turnarounds but what you say makes sense...my mind definitely hops, all the time. The turnarounds do confuse me though...are there certain one you cannot do? For example, if my thought is " He should not judge me " and a turn around is I should not judge me, can I also do the turnaround " I should judge me? " Are there rules somewhere about what is and is not a turnaround? thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 that is also spinning with turnarounds - which i find often happens if I don't go through the 4 questions before getting to the turnarounds. this is one of the reasons that finding 3 genuine examples is helpful for me - it slows things down. generally i find there are 3 versions of turnarounds: 1. to the opposite - " He should judge me " - find 3 examples of why it is better for you that he judges you. 2. to the other - " I shouldn't judge him " - find 3 examples of where you judge him. 3. to yourself - " I shouldn't judge me " - again, find 3 examples of where you judge yourself. what you are looking for is turnarounds to the original statement, rather than statements that 'spin' it around again. with love, Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi , In facilitation, " spinning " sounds like this: Client: " My mother doesn't love me. " Facilitator: Your mother doesn't love you; is that true? Client: No. Facilitator: How do you react when you believe that thought, what happens? Client: I feel depressed, and I get angry with my mother. I blame her for all the unhappiness in my life. I don't want to see her. Facilitator: You don't want to see her; is that true? Spinning a turnaround means veering away from the original statement, often in order to make it into a positive. Here's what spinning looks like in a turnaround: Original statement: " My mother doesn't love me. " Possible turnarounds: My mother does love me; I don't love my mother; I don't love myself. Spins: I do love my mother; I do love myself. Love, Carol http://www.clearlifesolutions.com http://soulsurgery.blogspot.com > > that is also spinning with turnarounds - which i find often happens if > I don't go through the 4 questions before getting to the turnarounds. > > this is one of the reasons that finding 3 genuine examples is helpful > for me - it slows things down. > > generally i find there are 3 versions of turnarounds: > > 1. to the opposite - " He should judge me " - find 3 examples of why it > is better for you that he judges you. > > 2. to the other - " I shouldn't judge him " - find 3 examples of where > you judge him. > > 3. to yourself - " I shouldn't judge me " - again, find 3 examples of > where you judge yourself. > > what you are looking for is turnarounds to the original statement, > rather than statements that 'spin' it around again. > > with love, > > Jon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 This thread prompted a quesion about a defintion of a word I heard in alot of early dialogues.  What are " loops " ? Thanks, Glenn Re: Spinning Hi , In facilitation, " spinning " sounds like this: Client: " My mother doesn't love me. " Facilitator: Your mother doesn't love you; is that true? Client: No. Facilitator: How do you react when you believe that thought, what happens? Client: I feel depressed, and I get angry with my mother. I blame her for all the unhappiness in my life. I don't want to see her. Facilitator: You don't want to see her; is that true? Spinning a turnaround means veering away from the original statement, often in order to make it into a positive. Here's what spinning looks like in a turnaround: Original statement: " My mother doesn't love me. " Possible turnarounds: My mother does love me; I don't love my mother; I don't love myself. Spins: I do love my mother; I do love myself. Love, Carol http://www.clearlif esolutions. com http://soulsurgery. blogspot. com > > that is also spinning with turnarounds - which i find often happens if > I don't go through the 4 questions before getting to the turnarounds. > > this is one of the reasons that finding 3 genuine examples is helpful > for me - it slows things down. > > generally i find there are 3 versions of turnarounds: > > 1. to the opposite - " He should judge me " - find 3 examples of why it > is better for you that he judges you. > > 2. to the other - " I shouldn't judge him " - find 3 examples of where > you judge him. > > 3. to yourself - " I shouldn't judge me " - again, find 3 examples of > where you judge yourself. > > what you are looking for is turnarounds to the original statement, > rather than statements that 'spin' it around again. > > with love, > > Jon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 > This thread prompted a quesion about a defintion of a word I heard in alot of early dialogues. What are " loops " ? > Thanks, > Glenn say's: All we need to deal around here are concepts (stories). That is all that ever happened that is all that ever will happen. Is loop a concept too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks so much!! That is really helpful, > > that is also spinning with turnarounds - which i find often happens if > I don't go through the 4 questions before getting to the turnarounds. > > this is one of the reasons that finding 3 genuine examples is helpful > for me - it slows things down. > > generally i find there are 3 versions of turnarounds: > > 1. to the opposite - " He should judge me " - find 3 examples of why it > is better for you that he judges you. > > 2. to the other - " I shouldn't judge him " - find 3 examples of where > you judge him. > > 3. to yourself - " I shouldn't judge me " - again, find 3 examples of > where you judge yourself. > > what you are looking for is turnarounds to the original statement, > rather than statements that 'spin' it around again. > > with love, > > Jon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi / all, Carol Skolnick has just posted a great piece about spinning on her blog - you'll find it here: http://soulsurgery.blogspot.com/2008/07/be-your-own-spin-doctor.html With love, Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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