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In a message dated 00-06-22 17:07:10 EDT, you write:

<< Does anyone have any hints as to how

to control my diet during the five days of temptation? Has anyone been

on a cruise lately and been able to do OK? >>

Hi, Erwin, I haven' been on a cruise but I eat out at lots of nice

restaurants and I find by ordering big salad and meat or fish and veggies and

just skipping whatever starch comes with it I usually can handle it. Of

course I take insulin ( you don't, do you?) so that can mitigate any little

slip I make. I do like desserts and usually split one with a friend or have

a single bite of theirs. Judicious choosing, that's the trick. I understand

cruise food is very tempting so good luck!

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I am going on a cruise sailing July 1 out of New York to Canada. This

will be a five day cruise with all of the lavish food available

including a 24 hour pizza parlor. Does anyone have any hints as to how

to control my diet during the five days of temptation? Has anyone been

on a cruise lately and been able to do OK?

I am looking forward to this trip with a lot of anticipation but also am

concerned that I will go crazy for the five days.

Any hints will be helpful.

:) Erwin

PS: I am type 2, diagnosed in April of 1999 with an HbA1c of 10 then.

Last test, in November of 1999 it was 4.7. I control it with diet and

exercise only, no medication. I will be going for another HbA1c test

towards the end of July and seeing my CDE following the test, probably

in August.

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Oh boy, Erwin. That's a tough one. Since your next bloodwork is late July

and the cruise is early July, you know that any gustatorial transgressions

will show up on your HbA1c. You might want to take along " Complete Book of

Food Counts " by Corinne T. Netzer, to help you make the best choices. You

might also want to have your doctor place you on 500 mg glucophage

(Metformin) for every meal containing carbohydrates right away so that you

can get accustomed to them before the cruise. (They tend to cause intestinal

discomfort the first 2-3 weeks.) Or you can just go all-out and then jump

back on the wagon when you return home, and just explain to the doctor about

the cruise when you get your results. Your numbers last time around were so

incredibly good, kiddo, that you're surely not going to do yourself much

harm by a short foray into Carbohydrate Heaven.

One trick I learned, though, is to head for the salad bar first, to satisfy

your hunger. Also, avoid the breads and rolls and desserts. On the more

troublesome foods, such as pasta and rice, just try to graze on them ... not

a double helping.

Susie

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At 06:13 PM 6/22/00 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 00-06-22 17:07:10 EDT, you write:

>

><< Does anyone have any hints as to how

> to control my diet during the five days of temptation? Has anyone been

> on a cruise lately and been able to do OK? >>

>*******************

I have been on over 25 cruises and gain no weight while away.

I order whatever I fancy, but I almost never eat the full serving. Sometimes,

I eat half, sometimes even less. Very rarely do I eat it all. I almost

always order something from all of the courses. I like appetizers, so it is

not very unusual for me to order 2 or three appetizers and the main course and

possibly a dessert. I just eat less of each thing.

Also for breakfast, I go to the dining room rather than the buffet. I order

poached eggs with smoked salmon and fruit but no bagel. If I don't like the

fruit, I skip it. Almost all the fruit juices are made with sugar.

I never go to the late night buffet. I eat nothing after 9 pm.

Where are you going? Have fun!

Elka

Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

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At 07:04 PM 6/22/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Elka,

>I see you eat chocolate by your signature line. What brand do you eat? Is

>there any that is low sugar/carb?

>Thanks,

>

*****************

No, I eat all kinds of regular chocolate. I take the fat and carbo numbers

into account (not exactly, just generally). Rosebuds are good, because I can

limit the amount I eat more readily. I can ignore chocolate most of the time,

but when it comes to the time of the month that I would have had a period,

there is no stopping me!

Elka

Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

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>Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate>

****FYI, it has been shown that glyburide type drugs will wear out your

pancreas by forcing it to make insulin, so that insulin injections are the

inevitable, and eating sugar will compound this problem. This has been

shown in numerous studies.

Chromium picolinate has been linked to cancer, also FYI,

Barb

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At 08:01 AM 6/23/00 -0600, you wrote:

>>Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate>

>

>****FYI, it has been shown that glyburide type drugs will wear out your

>pancreas by forcing it to make insulin, so that insulin injections are the

>inevitable, and eating sugar will compound this problem. This has been

>shown in numerous studies.

>

>Chromium picolinate has been linked to cancer, also FYI,

>

>Barb

>--------------

I'd like to check both those out, since they do not match the information that

I have.

Could you please give me 3 or more studies for each claim from independent

sources (i.e. those not funded by pharmaceutical companies, either directly or

indirectly)

Thanks

Elka

Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

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Hi Elka,

I eat chocolate too. I can't bear to deprive myself of it - I sympathise

with the time of the month thing when I find chocolate a necessity. I too

eat ordinary chocolate and I find that four squares of Cadbury's Diary Milk

after a meal doesn't cause me any problems.

Enjoy your chocolate!

I probably sound silly now but what's a YMMV

Type 1.

Re: Cruise

At 07:04 PM 6/22/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Elka,

>I see you eat chocolate by your signature line. What brand do you eat? Is

>there any that is low sugar/carb?

>Thanks,

>

*****************

No, I eat all kinds of regular chocolate. I take the fat and carbo numbers

into account (not exactly, just generally). Rosebuds are good, because I

can

limit the amount I eat more readily. I can ignore chocolate most of the

time,

but when it comes to the time of the month that I would have had a period,

there is no stopping me!

Elka

Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

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I thought I would have to give up chocolate. Then I read Dr. Atkins book.

He suggested chocolate that was around 70% cocoa. I like the taste much

better (have always been a fan of dark chocolate) and it doesn't mess with

my blood sugar much.

Robin G.

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>Reply-To: diabetes_integroups

>To: <diabetes_integroups>

>Subject: RE: Cruise

>Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:26:35 +0100

>

>Hi Elka,

>

>I eat chocolate too. I can't bear to deprive myself of it - I sympathise

>with the time of the month thing when I find chocolate a necessity. I too

>eat ordinary chocolate and I find that four squares of Cadbury's Diary Milk

>after a meal doesn't cause me any problems.

>

>Enjoy your chocolate!

>

>I probably sound silly now but what's a YMMV

>

>

>Type 1.

>

> Re: Cruise

>

>

>At 07:04 PM 6/22/00 -0400, you wrote:

> >Hi Elka,

> >I see you eat chocolate by your signature line. What brand do you eat?

>Is

> >there any that is low sugar/carb?

> >Thanks,

> >

>*****************

>

>No, I eat all kinds of regular chocolate. I take the fat and carbo numbers

>into account (not exactly, just generally). Rosebuds are good, because I

>can

>limit the amount I eat more readily. I can ignore chocolate most of the

>time,

>but when it comes to the time of the month that I would have had a period,

>there is no stopping me!

>

>

>Elka

>Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

>

>

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