Guest guest Posted November 22, 1999 Report Share Posted November 22, 1999 Very well stated Dave. The portion i was talking about is those worrible written questions and further, the ones concerning protocols and the " NEW " way of doing things. I remember a question I had one shock............(I know, we all have our opinion on this) it was weather to rapid extricate or short board then extricate? Easy question isn't it? but the thing is, what direction was the writter of the question looking to go? I havent included any information on the exact question, but have indeed brought to all what I saw in the question. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SCENE. doesn't it? I learned M.A.S.T. as a the huge procedure in EMS when i first took my basic class a few years ago. Now, since then I have moved to yet another state where they aviod MAST in all cases. I believe, like many, that these things work. I also beleive they do not work, its all about the scenario. Just a few more comments thrown into the tub of worms. At 11:37 AM 11/22/99 -0600, you wrote: >Lee: > >Most of the scenario-based questions I've seen are not dependent on a set of >protocols, unless its something standard like the AHA cardiac protocols, >which no one should be able to graduate from paramedic school without >knowing cold, anyway. Most of these questions require the student to >synthesize an answer and procedure based on the standard knowledge all >paramedic students are expected to know. Protocol-specific information is >usually given as part of the question. The beauty (or curse, as you prefer) >of this kind of test is that it not only assesses whether the student gained >the basic paramedic knowledge set during training, but that he or she can >apply it to practical problems. Believe me, I've seen a lot of rookie medics >who could spout theory all day, but couldn't paramedic their way out of a >paper bag for the first 6-12 months on the job. They had no critical >thinking skills. Its a lot harder and more time-consuming to educate and >train medics to be able to apply what they've learned practically, the >so-called " street-ready " standard. The fact that so many are failing now >shows that many schools are not doing their job, or are behind the power >curve in redesigning the way they teach to meet this new expectation. >ly, I don't think TDH and THECB are really giving the support to EMS >education that it needs if this is going to be accomplished. In some cases, >I suspect the lack of resources will make it impossible for a school to live >up to this standard, especially using the new curriculum, and such schools >will go the way of the dinosaurs. It also shows me that a lot of paramedic >students are still putzing around instead of taking this as seriously as >they should. These are the ones who always say, " just teach me what I have >to know to pass the test. " The next 18 months will doubtless be quite >painful for all of us in EMS and I daresay there will be fewer (but better) >paramedic schools when the shootin' stops. Paramedic students better face >the fact that memorizing isn't enough. You have to UNDERSTAND how, why, >when, and what, and you have to be able to convert theory into practice just >to earn the patch. That's how it should have been all along. My advice to >paramedic students is to insist that the school they are in prepare them for >that and to plan on making paramedic school your #1 priority. Buckle down >and work! The days of easy-breezy paramedic school and certification >apparently are coming to an end, thank God. Don't expect spoon feeding. I >know that every one of my colleagues who still teach EMS daily are moving >heaven and Earth trying to give you the best that can be had, but a lot of >it is going to rest on the students. If you fail the exam, point a finger of >blame at the person in the mirror well before you point it at anyone else. >Along the way, raise hell with the administrators of the college or other >training source you are taking the course through if they aren't giving the >program the resources they need to help you learn this stuff the way it has >to be done nowadays. I will now step lightly off de soap box and raise my >shields against the mass of incoming flaming responses I invariably provoke. > >Dave > > [texasems-L] Re: Medic Exam > > >> The problem with a scenario based test is kind of what is alluding >> to, who's protocols are used. Most students that go for their Paramedic >> are already employed and have been " trained " to treat the patient under >> their local protocols. The problem comes from trying to " forget " local >> protocols to answer the questions. It's been my experience that >> medication dosages used in protocols are not necessarily the same as >> when we are in class. >> >> Another problem might also be that because there is not a visible >> patient. I have found that a lot of people cannot visualize a >> hypothetical situation, but on an actual scene, when one can see the >> patient, there is no problem. >> >> Lee >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. >> http://clickhere./click/1702 >> >> >> >> -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >> -- /docvault//?m=1 >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to tablesaws. >http://clickhere./click/1701 > > > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- /cal?listname= & m=1 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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