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thanks for the explanation of question 4..

i never got that before

thats why i love your posts love, roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " Hypegia Phoebe "

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>

> >

> > ok have done the JYN, this is the 1st

> > is trying to make me look like afool

> >

> >

> > Q1 When people have found out how she has been behaving, people have

> > been supportive and judged her not me....so yes she has, but it has

> > backfired on her

> >

> > Q2 No i cant absolutely know her aim is to make me look foolish, no

> > matter how much i think it to be true

> >

> > Q3 i feel very angry, humiliated and stressed(she must not win), I

> > feel a tightness in my chest and throat

> > My mind attacks her, wants to destroy her, teach her a lesson once

> > and for all, make her feel bad, I also feel guilty/ashamed to be

> > thinking theses things.

> > I treat myself badly when I believe this thought, feel stressed, beat

> > myself up, I feel inadequate

> > I have got to win , prove myself, come out looking good

> >

> > Q4 calmer, less angry, more objective, more willing to cooperate, my

> > mind feels sharper, the problem smaller and more defined, more

> > compassion

> >

> > Turnaround

> > I am trying to make me look like a fool

> > by setting myself up for something I can,t win or if I did win

> > the victory would be hollow and not worth the effort

> >

> > Iam trying to make look like a fool

> > Yes I AM,I AM GOING TO SORT HER OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL

> >

> > is not trying to make me look like a fool

> > I think she is afraid and using anything at her disposal to

> > fight back

> >

> > mmmm, lot to think about there, i cant seem tos top crying when i

> > read this but i still dont know what to do next, i have so much

> > pressure from my manager to sort this problem out

> > thanks for reading, all comments gratefully recieved

> >

>

> When you answer question 4 are you answering what you *think* you

> would feel or what you have *actually* felt when quietly sitting

> without the thought clouding your mind? To think/perceive without this

> thought that this person is trying to make you look like a fool is

> literally like a letting a dark cloud pass by and seeing the view

> beyond. When you actually see the view beyond, *then* and only then

> will you honestly feel what that feels like. Answering question 4 is

> not about using your imagination thinking what it might feel like

> without the thought, it's an actual experience.

>

> If you have experienced that, were there any new realizations that

> came to you during that experience? For example, " It is not possible

> for anyone to make me look like a fool. Everyone is responsible for

> their own perceptions of me, including my boss. " So your main concern

> might not be that is trying to make you look like a fool but that

> your boss could possibly be convinced that you are a fool by the

> manipulations of . Then taking it to possibly more stressful and

> underlying layers: If my boss thinks I'm a fool, then I could get

> reprimanded and being reprimanded is an embarrassment and a poor

> reflection on my job record. My job record is key in making sure I

> have a good and secure job. Having a good and secure job makes sure I

> can support myself and my family. I need to support my family. My

> family needs me. I need to have someone to need me. If no one needs me

> I will be alone, isolated, rejected, a failure, and worthless. If I

> have nothing and no one then I am nothing and no one and not capable

> of joy, love, and gratitude. If I don't have joy, love, gratitude, I

> could not handle it. If I cannot handle it, I will self-destruct in

> grief, hate, and resentment.

>

> I know that was a rather long example but that is what anxiety and

> fear (stress) urges us to avoid is our grief, hate, and resentment.

> The paradox, though, is that we *believe* in grief, hate, and

> resentment and stress is the apparent tool to get us out of it but it

> actually creates *more* of it in our lives because of our underlying

> belief. If you question whether or not that grief, hate, and

> resentment exist is actually true, you might see that it is not. It is

> merely a figment of our imagination like a dragon, yet we believe it

> to be true and react to is as such. It is how we create our dream we

> call 'reality'.

>

> Hope that wasn't too confusing. :)

>

> So, if I see that there can be no such thing as grief, hate,

> resentment, isolation, rejection, failure, worthlessness, etc., then

> I'll relax through all those layers of stress and be relaxed in the

> presence of apparently *trying* to make me look like a fool. I

> would have the clarity to know how to talk to my boss about the

> situation and how to calmly and assertively and even with a sense of

> humor address the issue of . I would also see where is

> pointing out actual chips in my own character that make the work

> environment less efficient and where I could improve my performance.

> And if I see I do not want to exert the effort to make those changes,

> I might see that this job is not a good fit for me. I might realize

> that my true calling is elsewhere. However, if this job is a good fit

> for me, then I would good-naturedly and effortlessly change aspects

> about myself to better fit myself to the job and people like

> might not feel a need to undermine me. But if is truly trying to

> unjustly undermine me, I would dispassionately and efficiently put a

> system in place that exposes such employees and their

> morale-degrading, and performance-distracting behavior.

>

> Woo!

>

> That was fun to ponder. Hope any of that helped...

>

> :)

>

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-thanks thats helpful.. rh--

In Loving-what-is , " Jon Willis @ SELFHappiness.com "

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>

> I hadn't caught what was said about question 4 until now - I fidn it

> hard to read postings with comments added into the original posting.

>

> I disagree about question 4 and using imagination - for me it is very

> much imagining what I would feel like without this belief in my life - I

> like to think of it as " reverse visualisation " - most visualisation

> techniques seem to focus on life with things, whereas what I like about

> question 4 is that it focuses on life without :-)

>

> For me when I do this it becomes an actual experience in the moment.

>

> One of the places I can get caught is trying with question 4 - I find

> sitting back, taking a deep breath, letting go allows whatever feeling

> to come up more easily.

>

> For me an image of an old window frame comes to mind, painted with

> layers and layers of paint - I see the layers as the beliefs I have.

> Sometimes all I can imagine is very slightly lifting off a layer of

> paint just for a moment. But hey, what can you expect, some of these

> layers of paint have been with me a long time!

>

> Also what I often helpful is to take the concept in the thought and

> imagine not knowing what it is - for example, dishonesty - if I didn't

> know what it meant.

>

> With much love,

>

> Jon x

>

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