Re: Question about Medication

[Guest guest]

Hi ..I'm not sure about the Norco causing your pain, but I know that

I've had problems in the past with Migrain Headaches...if you take pain

meds, you can get what they call " rebound " headaches..so maybe that's what

he's thinking?

If I were you I'd get a second opinion..especially if you're going to change

doctors anyway..

Marta Towne-

www.shadowridgeranch.info

www.myspace.com/martatownejones

www.myspace.com/myshadowridge

From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On

Behalf Of aloha.monica

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:03 AM

To: hugs-n-pain

Subject: Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice

over to Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can

tell what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

I think you are right about him. I felt he had problems mentally himself and

also a problem towards women. Here's one comment he made to me. " You mean it

only took one time to clean all that GUNK out " He was referring to my D & C.Here's

another. His  words for a pelvic exam ' Is when they shove their whole hand up

inside you " . Both I took as degrading comments towards women. It was also his

tone. Plus saw him for about 8 months still have pain and NO DX???? UGH! The

pain is exhausting me. One of the most moodiest persons I have ever met. Thanks

for your reply and support. Hope your lawyer gets his act together. If it were

me I be pissed as hell at him.

 

One thing that my cousin says whom is a patent lawyer says about getting SSDI.

He said REALLY act and tell the judge you are fatigued. For some reason he said

they pay attention when fatigued is mentioned. Good Luck and get rid of the

knuckle head if he's going to pull strange stunts on you.

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 5:34 AM

Sounds like he is doing you a favor. you need a new Dr anyway. I never heard of

pain meds causing pain.  sure there is another pain management Dr around you

somewhere. or  Neurologist.

Jena

  Question about Medication

    Aloha Everyone,

  I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

   

  So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

   

  Hugs to all,

 

[Guest guest]

Marta,

I guess pain medication can send signals to the brain confusing you about pain

after taking meds for long periods of time. Making you think you are having much

MORE pain than you really are having. I know it is confusing to me but a cancer

patient told me the same thing. 

 

But I think my Neurologist used that excuse as a cop out. Since he can't explain

why I have pain. Haven't had problems with head aches. Only had one that was BAD

a couple weeks ago but I think it was due to menopause not the pain medication.

Isn't middle age fun!

Subject: RE: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:22 PM

Hi ..I'm not sure about the Norco causing your pain, but I know that

I've had problems in the past with Migrain Headaches...if you take pain

meds, you can get what they call " rebound " headaches..so maybe that's what

he's thinking? 

If I were you I'd get a second opinion..especially if you're going to change

doctors anyway..

Marta Towne-

www.shadowridgeranch.info

www.myspace.com/martatownejones

www.myspace.com/myshadowridge

From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On

Behalf Of aloha.monica

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:03 AM

To: hugs-n-pain

Subject: Question about Medication

 

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice

over to Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can

tell what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

,

He is so full of crap. The only time that happens is with headaches (called

rebound headaches). I do believe the nerves can become sensitized so that the

pain is worse when you STOP the pain medication, but it does not CAUSE pain.

Sounds to me like he's doing you a favor by moving away. He's either lying or

is completely incompetent.

I would start looking for a new pain doctor ASAP. Perhaps ask around and find

one who's a little more capable.

Maybe then you can finally get a diagnosis.

Have a low pain evening.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says the

Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person determine

when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than helping?I told him

I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to Honolulu and I

live  On The Big Island.

 

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

 

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

I have had some pain meds cause me more pain, actually I have a list of them,

unfortunately the reason was because I actually had a sensitivity bordering on

allergy to those meds. I've been on meds that have made me fell like my ears

were being boxed in, i've lost my vision (while driving which is no fun), i've

had joint aches and pains because of those meds. I have had head aches,

shoulder aches and face aches and one particular medication caused me to have

symptoms of a heart attack within hours. Of course, this is me but speaking

with my anesthesiologist at the time, and even my current pain doc who tried me

on a relatively new pain med before my methadone two years ago, he did explain

that it wasn't necessarily causing me actual physical pain but the meds were

attacking my nerve endings, etc, and due to the fact it was a particular

type/class of medication that I should never ever take. I have those listed

even as allergies because my physical reactions to them are off the charts.

Not every medication reacts the same to every person and although my pain

ratings were going off the charts I could not take anything stronger than norco

before the methadone came along otherwise I was laid up because of the meds and

not my physical problems.

Andria M. Simpson

PO Box 143

Conklin, NY 13748

http://www.trikketampastore.com/categories.php

-- In Hugs-N-Pain , " Alanna Wilgus " wrote:

>

> ,

> He is so full of crap. The only time that happens is with headaches (called

rebound headaches). I do believe the nerves can become sensitized so that the

pain is worse when you STOP the pain medication, but it does not CAUSE pain.

> Sounds to me like he's doing you a favor by moving away. He's either lying or

is completely incompetent.

> I would start looking for a new pain doctor ASAP. Perhaps ask around and find

one who's a little more capable.

> Maybe then you can finally get a diagnosis.

> Have a low pain evening.

> Hugs,

> Alanna

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Question about Medication

>

>

> Aloha Everyone,

> I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

>  

> So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

>  

> Hugs to all,

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Donnie, it's good to be back and chime in.

Please, if you pray, pray for my son as he is at War.

Hope your pain levels are low Donnie, take care!

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Tommie,

How are you? We were pretty worried @ you. What is your son's name? Is he in

Iraq or Afghanistan? I will add him to my prayer list.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Question about Medication

Thank you Donnie, it's good to be back and chime in.

Please, if you pray, pray for my son as he is at War.

Hope your pain levels are low Donnie, take care!

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

I think your best resource is your pharmacist. 

 

I know some kinds of pain can be a side effect...like headaches.  If the

headache is worth it then what the heck.  I get one now and again.  It could

be a side effect. 

 

But...if anyone has a decent answer it would be a pharmacist.  Ask him/her what

he thinks that doc meant by that...what side effects could be pain from Norco. 

I can't find it in anything online. 

Lotacats

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visible soul.â€

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Subject: RE: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:22 AM

 

Hi ..I'm not sure about the Norco causing your pain, but I know that

I've had problems in the past with Migrain Headaches... if you take pain

meds, you can get what they call " rebound " headaches..so maybe that's what

he's thinking?

If I were you I'd get a second opinion..especially if you're going to change

doctors anyway..

Marta Towne-

www.shadowridgeranc h.info

www.myspace. com/martatownejo nes

www.myspace. com/myshadowridg e

From: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf Of aloha.monica

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:03 AM

To: hugs-n-pain@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice

over to Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can

tell what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for replying. May I ask what your pain Dr. has RX for your aches and

pain. I tried Lyrica 4 times and it does NOT agree with me at all. I have to go

see my PCP on the 23rd and am praying he will RX the Norco that has been a life

saver for me. I really fear that I won't be able to get the med. I need that

helps the most and with the fewest side effects.

 

I always pray for our troops. Freedom doesn't come free. We are lucky to live in

a free country. Keeping your son in my thoughts and prayers.

 

Gentle hugs,

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 1:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

  Question about Medication

    Aloha Everyone,

  I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

   

  So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

   

  Hugs to all,

 

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The only time I got this statement from my doctor was when I was self

medicating. I was taking more pain meds then I should have been so I was running

out early. After a few months of this my doctor had a little talk with me about

why I was running out early and that was a Big No-No!!!  So, I'm not sure if

this was the case for you but for me it was. Once I was back to the precribed

amount, my pains were not as severe. The pain was still there but pain I was not

I had to deal with it in otherways.  Good luck and I'l be praying for you.

Pogo Bob

________________________________

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:08:09 AM

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

 

Thanks for replying. May I ask what your pain Dr. has RX for your aches and

pain. I tried Lyrica 4 times and it does NOT agree with me at all. I have to go

see my PCP on the 23rd and am praying he will RX the Norco that has been a life

saver for me. I really fear that I won't be able to get the med. I need that

helps the most and with the fewest side effects.

 

I always pray for our troops. Freedom doesn't come free. We are lucky to live in

a free country. Keeping your son in my thoughts and prayers.

 

Gentle hugs,

From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 1:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

  Question about Medication

    Aloha Everyone,

  I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

   

  So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

   

  Hugs to all,

 

[Guest guest]

,

He gave me 120 Norcos 10-325. It lasted almost 6 weeks. He was saying take 3 to

4 daily. Then he has cut back to 100. Then all of a sudden he says the Norco is

causing my pain to be worse?So writes out Norco 5-325 180 of them. I don't

understand the process he is saying is happening. I do know I will have PAIN

when I'm all out. I see my PCP on the 23rd and plan to tell him EVERYTHING about

this nutter and ask that he RX med. if I have not found a pain Dr. yet. Thanks

for replying.

From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 1:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

  Question about Medication

    Aloha Everyone,

  I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

   

  So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

   

  Hugs to all,

 

[Guest guest]

,

You're right..... this doctor doesn't make any sense at all.  I also agree with

you about Norco not causing you more pain.  My doctor cut me back and kept me at

a lower amount for 4 months before my  old amount was written.  This doctor of

your's is all over the board, writing you a lower amount but turning around and

writing you a larger amoubnt just a month later. I hope you find a good pain

doctor that really understands pain or better yet I hope that your PCP will help

you out so you don't have to hunt down a pain doctor. My PCP is the doctor that

writes out out of my meds including all my pain meds.  Good luck and as always

I'll keep you in my prayers!

Pogo Bob

________________________________

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 10:15:34 AM

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

 

,

He gave me 120 Norcos 10-325. It lasted almost 6 weeks. He was saying take 3 to

4 daily. Then he has cut back to 100. Then all of a sudden he says the Norco is

causing my pain to be worse?So writes out Norco 5-325 180 of them. I don't

understand the process he is saying is happening. I do know I will have PAIN

when I'm all out. I see my PCP on the 23rd and plan to tell him EVERYTHING about

this nutter and ask that he RX med. if I have not found a pain Dr. yet. Thanks

for replying.

From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 1:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

  Question about Medication

    Aloha Everyone,

  I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live  On The Big Island.

   

  So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

   

  Hugs to all,

 

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I currently take Roxicodone 30mg, 4 times per day and Opana 120mg twice per day,

plus Zanaflex 4mg, a muscle relaxer. I hope you can find a good pain management

doc, PCP's usually don't like to mess with prescribing pain meds, especially for

those who have chronic pain issues. because of the liability and having to

answer to the DEA.

Thank you for praying for our troops. My heart has always gone out to those

families with loved ones at war, but let me tell you, it takes on a whole new

meaning when it's one of your own over there.

Let us know what your doc says. Maybe he can refer you to a good pain doc if he

isn't willing to treat you long term.

Hugs

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Hi Alanna,

Sorry I've been gone so long. I've been dealing with a lot of issues lately. My

son's name is and he can't tell me where he is

He did say that they are taken to different drop spots when they do their

missions, so I think he might be in Kuwait and then being dropped into Iraq and

or Afghanistan for missions. I have no clue and the mailing address I have for

him doesn't give me a clue either. lol It's all codes. And when he calls me, the

call is routed through Tinker Air Force Base here locally. So, I don't know and

may never know exactly where he is at. I'm only guessing at Kuwait because of

the temps he's told me about. Hotter there than the other 2 places.

Thank you for your prayers.

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

My son is in Afghanistan.  His wife and I get that secret this or that stuff as

well.  I finally got a phone call.  He can't seem to get internet like when he

was in Iraq.  Bummer.  We talked a lot when he was online. 

 

He told me something I didn't know...that Afghanistan is not really like the

surface of the moon.  At least all of it.  He said at the higher altitudes it

looks like Lake Tahoe...I live a little bit close to Tahoe...I thought Wow. 

He loves the mountains around him.   Go figure.   If those guys ever get it

together over there and stop fighting, they'd make a fortune in tourist

attractions.

 

I had to learn about hookahs...and get tobacco n stuff.  Noramlly he's a non

smoker...but I guess when you're going thru what they do it's kewl.  I sent

coals and flavored tobacco from a site that deals with hookah stuff.

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From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says the

Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person determine

when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than helping?I told him

I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to Honolulu and I

live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

I will keep him and your family in my prayers.

Do me a favor please and tell him I said

" Thank You " . He has a special place in

my heart. You did GOOD with him.......

Deta

>

>

> My son is in Afghanistan. His wife and I get that secret this or that

> stuff as well. I finally got a phone call. He can't seem to get internet

> like when he was in Iraq. Bummer. We talked a lot when he was online.

>

> He told me something I didn't know...that Afghanistan is not really like

> the surface of the moon. At least all of it. He said at the higher

> altitudes it looks like Lake Tahoe...I live a little bit close to Tahoe...I

> thought Wow. He loves the mountains around him. Go figure. If those

> guys ever get it together over there and stop fighting, they'd make a

> fortune in tourist attractions.

>

> I had to learn about hookahs...and get tobacco n stuff. Noramlly he's a

> non smoker...but I guess when you're going thru what they do it's kewl. I

> sent coals and flavored tobacco from a site that deals with hookah stuff.

>

> Lotacats

>

> “I love cats because I enjoy my home; and little by little, they become its

> visible soul.”

>

> Twitter_follow me

> http://twitter.com/LotacatsFunPix

>

> Express Chronic Pain Awareness

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>

> Lotacatsfunpix.com

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>

> Deviantart

> http://lotacats05.deviantart.com/

>

>

>

> From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

> Subject: Re: Question about Medication

> To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:21 PM

>

> ,

>

> I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I

> understand it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine

> and it gets RID of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most

> idiotic thing I've ever heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for

> the life of me I can't remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL

> Good old fibro brain. Or I'm just an air head. lol Either way, I can't

> remember.

>

> Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't

> wait to see someone's explanation. lol

>

> I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just

> can't live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never

> experienced chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes

> ALL of the pain docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are

> all clueless!!!

>

> Hugs,

> ~Tommie~

> www.myspace. com/tommiejj

> PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

> Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

> what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

> something will undoubtedly go wrong.

> Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

> Question about Medication

>

> Aloha Everyone,

> I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

> the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

> determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

> helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice

> over to Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

>

> So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't

> have pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I

> can tell what he says is true or not?

>

> Hugs to all,

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi lotacats i am reel glad rour son is allrite that is real good i hope he stays

safe donnie

From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says the

Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person determine

when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than helping?I told him

I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to Honolulu and I

live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Tommie,

I can't even imagine how hard it must be to have a son at war, but you must be

so proud! Make sure to tell him thank you from me too. I don't think most

people have any idea how important these young men and women are to our country.

I'll keep the prayers coming.

Good to have you back.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Question about Medication

Hi Alanna,

Sorry I've been gone so long. I've been dealing with a lot of issues lately. My

son's name is and he can't tell me where he is

He did say that they are taken to different drop spots when they do their

missions, so I think he might be in Kuwait and then being dropped into Iraq and

or Afghanistan for missions. I have no clue and the mailing address I have for

him doesn't give me a clue either. lol It's all codes. And when he calls me, the

call is routed through Tinker Air Force Base here locally. So, I don't know and

may never know exactly where he is at. I'm only guessing at Kuwait because of

the temps he's told me about. Hotter there than the other 2 places.

Thank you for your prayers.

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Hi Alanna,

Sorry to just now getting back to you. Yes, it is very scary, but for now he is

safe. I got a very frightening phone call at 8am Saturday morning. It was from

US Government on caller ID, just as it is when he calls me, but a woman was on

the other end of the phone, a Commander. She asked if I was Tommie , then

if I were the mother of PFC , I couldn't breathe at

that time, then she said, don't be alarmed, (yeah right) she then said point

blank that he hadn't been shot! Thank the Lord! She said that he had been in the

hospital for several days getting IV Antibiotics for cellulitis in his ankle.

And they were medivacing to Germany for further treatment as he hasn't

responding to the IV treatment. So now he is in Germany. I've talked with him a

few times since then, the Cellulitis has spread down his foot, and starting up

his shin, the infection had gotten into the bone, in which that part is better,

but the infection is still in the cartilage in his ankle and surrounding areas.

After being in Germany or a week, they will probably send him back to his base

in NY. Then once healed he can go back to War.

I am very proud of him. He wants to finish the job he was sent there to do. He

is very unhappy this has happened to him. . I will sure pass on your thanks to

all of them over there., It's amazing how much our Soldiers suffer from what

they see and have to do while over there. It is no small feat by any means. I

just want him back home. I am relieved he is safe right now.

Thank you for the kind words.

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Someone would have to come wake me up if that happened to me...I'd have passed

out cold!

Lotacats

“I love cats because I enjoy my home; and little by little, they become its

visible soul.â€

Twitter_follow me

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From: Tommie <tommie_jones@ cox.net>

Subject: Re: Question about Medication

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:21 PM

,

I've heard of this before, but totally do not believe it, nor do I understand

it. I've never had pain meds cause me pain. I take the medicine and it gets RID

of my pain, doesn't cause me more pain. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever

heard. I've had it explained to me before, but for the life of me I can't

remember what I was told in order to tell you! LOL Good old fibro brain. Or I'm

just an air head. lol Either way, I can't remember.

Maybe Cats will be able to shed some light on this subject for you. I can't wait

to see someone's explanation. lol

I'll pray that you are able to find a good pain doc real soon. We just can't

live without our pain meds. And unfortunately, those who have never experienced

chronic pain have no clue what we go through and that includes ALL of the pain

docs and those docs who claim to know something. They are all clueless!!!

Hugs,

~Tommie~

www.myspace. com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says the

Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person determine

when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than helping?I told him

I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to Honolulu and I

live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Thanks Donnie!

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Tommie,

Everything happens for a reason. Perhaps this bout of cellulitis is God's way

of keeping him safe from something worse.

I would be very proud to have a son that brave! You certainly must have done a

good job raising him. I feel sad when people put down what our young men and

women are doing over there. It is so important!

I will continue to keep is my prayers.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Question about Medication

Hi Alanna,

Sorry to just now getting back to you. Yes, it is very scary, but for now he is

safe. I got a very frightening phone call at 8am Saturday morning. It was from

US Government on caller ID, just as it is when he calls me, but a woman was on

the other end of the phone, a Commander. She asked if I was Tommie , then

if I were the mother of PFC , I couldn't breathe at

that time, then she said, don't be alarmed, (yeah right) she then said point

blank that he hadn't been shot! Thank the Lord! She said that he had been in the

hospital for several days getting IV Antibiotics for cellulitis in his ankle.

And they were medivacing to Germany for further treatment as he hasn't

responding to the IV treatment. So now he is in Germany. I've talked with him a

few times since then, the Cellulitis has spread down his foot, and starting up

his shin, the infection had gotten into the bone, in which that part is better,

but the infection is still in the cartilage in his ankle and surrounding areas.

After being in Germany or a week, they will probably send him back to his base

in NY. Then once healed he can go back to War.

I am very proud of him. He wants to finish the job he was sent there to do. He

is very unhappy this has happened to him. . I will sure pass on your thanks to

all of them over there., It's amazing how much our Soldiers suffer from what

they see and have to do while over there. It is no small feat by any means. I

just want him back home. I am relieved he is safe right now.

Thank you for the kind words.

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,

[Guest guest]

Thank you Alanna and yes I'm VERY proud of him. Thank you for the prayers!!!!!

Hugs

~Tommie~

www.myspace.com/tommiejj

PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome

Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or

what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt,

something will undoubtedly go wrong.

Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude.

Question about Medication

Aloha Everyone,

I have a question for the group. My Neurologist whom I fired this week says

the Norco is causing my pain. My question to you all is how can a person

determine when the pain medication is causing you MORE pain rather than

helping?I told him I disagreed. Anyway he says he is moving his practice over to

Honolulu and I live On The Big Island.

So he wrote out 180 Norcos 5-325 to ween me off. I guarantee if I don't have

pain medication I will be in lots of pain. So can someone explain how I can tell

what he says is true or not?

Hugs to all,