Re: pain management+yeast management

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Hi Ann,

That is what I am getting into. I am taking Elavil, Atarax, Depakote, Zoloft

for pain management along with biofeedback, and doing the calcium citrate

/oxalate route, as well as taking Nystatin and Diflucan for yeast.

I feel that the biofeedback and drugs have helped with the nerve/muscle

damage, but the irritation on the labia still remains. Just last week I had

the worst yeast infection my doctor had ever seen. SO, I think my lingering

discomfort is definitely yeast related.

I know so many of you must be thinking I'm nuts to do so many things at once,

it is a lot, especially with 2 toddlers. BUT I have been in the 24/7 " take

me to the ER " pain level for almost 2 years. Although I would feel just

awful if I only had POC, it is even more desperate to have 24/7 for so long.

I feel that once I am out of pain completely then I can start tinkering back

the drugs.

Sandi

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In a message dated 99-09-22 22:09:15 EDT, you write:

<< That is what I am getting into. I am taking Elavil, Atarax, Depakote,

Zoloft

for pain management along with biofeedback, and doing the calcium citrate

/oxalate route, as well as taking Nystatin and Diflucan for yeast. >>

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I have to go the pain management route...the 24/7 burning is leading me to a

nervous breakdown...but I also think yeast is involved. So I am going to try

both (diflucan, nizoral in turn). Of the things you mentioned...which one is

for pain? In desperation I took some vicodin...mind you...held off for about

4 months...and writhed in agony....the vicodin works...some small relief that

lasted about 1.5 hours. That's what I mean by pain management...I am dying

of the suffering. So many women here much braver than I...

I don't have vestibulitis, POC, nor do I burn *more* when I urinate...so I am

not so into this whole oxalate thing or the biofeedback...maybe I will

be...who knows.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I am not taking any pain killers, sorry I wasn't too clear. But the Elavil

(antidepressant) and Depakote ( antiseizure) are supposed to help with nerve

pain. The Atarax (antihistamine) helps with pain as well as inflammation.

I have done about every oral and topical antifungal and still have yeast

problems. I took 2 Diflucan pills last week and will take 1 a week for the

next few weeks. But I think we need to treat it more aggressively than that.

Take care,

Sandi

[Guest guest]

I am finding the yeast discussions on the list very interesting--because it

is my pet theory...if yeast got you here, controlling the yeast will get you

out...

I took diflucan for about 3 weeks, then nizoral, then lamisil with

diflucan...had to stop everything because I was breaking out in hives and all

kinds of weird *reactions* and I was in horriblehorrible burning pain ...I am

thinking die-off...and I was very very sick...again, I think die off...the

anti yeast diet....I ws very stict with it--should have only gone with it

....one month...I almost did 3 months, then my hair started to fall out...and

my skin became flakey...working on that now...having a better diet and lots

of supplements...

The burning and stinging has been excruciating (4.5 months)... then we got

Elavil on board...I'm at 75mgs. And it seems to be helping--but it's only

been a week...so I don't know if it is the elavil or the diflucan, which I

started only three days ago-->...and noticed the whitish discharge is less

and more normal....less white, more clear...

Elavil question....I take mine at bedtime...and usually get up around 7:30 or

8...eat breakfast...the morning progresses, then I suddenly feel overcome

with sleepiness...and fall into bed---usually for a good two hours...Is it

possible that this is from the elavil? I am then ok for the rest of the

day...anyone have this--or could tell me of their elavil experiences...

I am desperately trying to get all of this undercontrol so I can go home and

resume my life...get back to work...etc.etc.

Thanks

Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandi,

I've read your posts and was wondering if you take an acidophilus

supplement? I'm sure you already know about this but wanted to share the

information with you. I take probably the best acidophilus supplement

(according to several nutrition experts) that's available. The acidophilus

is made by Natren and the formula is Healthy Trinity. You can purchase it

at most health food stores in the refrigerated section. It's not cheap (30

capsules for approximately $42). I have to say it's an amazing product!!!

I had cultured positive for Candida Tropicalis back in May, 1997 which I

believe started my Vulvodynia. I was put on Sporonox for several weeks

which cured me of the yeast. I started taking this acidophilus, first one

pill every other day and now take it every other day and have been yeast

free ever since. I have shared this info. with some of my friends that

continuously suffered from yeast related problems and since taking Healthy

Trinity, they have all been yeast-free! It's a good product that I think is

worth checking out. Just my two cents.

Warm regards,

Debra

deb.leigh@...

[Guest guest]

> From: CAhouse5@...

> The burning and stinging has been excruciating (4.5 months)... then we

got

> Elavil on board...I'm at 75mgs. And it seems to be helping--but it's

only

> been a week...so I don't know if it is the elavil or the diflucan,

which I

> started only three days ago-->...and noticed the whitish discharge is

less

> and more normal....less white, more clear...

>

> Elavil question....I take mine at bedtime...and usually get up around

7:30 or

> 8...eat breakfast...the morning progresses, then I suddenly feel

overcome

> with sleepiness...and fall into bed---usually for a good two

hours...Is it

> possible that this is from the elavil? I am then ok for the rest of

the

> day...anyone have this--or could tell me of their elavil

experiences...

When I first took elavil it made me sleepy so I started taking it before

bedtime but then I would want to sleep too late. I started taking it about

7:-00 PM and it would wear off in time for me to get up about 7:00 A.M.

But I would usually have a bite (or more) to eat before bedtime because I

cannot go to sleep on an empty stomach. Maybe it was the food that set off

the sleepiness along with the elavil.

I fall asleep if I eat breakfast so I wait until I have been up for a few

hours before eating anything besides fruit.

It sounds like the elavil is helping you and I am so glad because you have

been through sooo much.

> I am desperately trying to get all of this undercontrol so I can go

home and

> resume my life...get back to work...etc.etc.

> Thanks

> Ann

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I just wanted to comment on your post..........

<< I don't know if it is the elavil or the diflucan, which I

started only three days ago-->...and noticed the whitish discharge is less

and more normal....less white, more clear... >>

It sounds almost like the Diflucan is working for you moreso. I've noticed

on MYSELF too, the discharge changing from " white " to " clear " . About your

tiredness mid-am...I think someone else suggested too, pushing back the time

you take the time you take your Elavil, (maybe like 5:00 p.m.). I take mine

occasionally past 10:00 p.m. at night....and talk about am

grogginess!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck and hope I've helped!

Hugs,

Carla

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In a message dated 99-09-25 12:13:50 EDT, you write:

<< It sounds almost like the Diflucan is working for you moreso. I've

noticed

on MYSELF too, the discharge changing from " white " to " clear " . About your

tiredness mid-am...I think someone else suggested too, pushing back the time

you take the time you take your Elavil, (maybe like 5:00 p.m.). I take

mine

occasionally past 10:00 p.m. at night....and talk about am

grogginess!!!!!!!!!!!

>>

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Carla

I think the diflucan is working also...however, I have also had reactions to

it--and then I have to stop for a few days. I don't understand why the

discharge gets clear and yet there is still burning>? My Doctor talks about

cellular yeast. And also fighting the intestinal yeast. All of this has

added up to a fight for my life.

As for the Diflucan and reactions-->I am going to go back on it at 50mgs

every other day and work up to 100mgs every otherday...because, as I

said--the dhischarge and irritation is very much less. All this, as I was

inspired by another poster who had great success. Also my wholistic Doc is

convinced this is a yeast thing...and over time, we can gain ground on it.

As for the elavil..I backed up to 6P...and still find myself getting up in

the AM...and then sleeping away the afternoon...I see my Doc on Weds. and

will probably back down to 50mgs...

Thanks, Carla : )

Ann