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This is exciting! Dena would be the first type 2 diabetic on oral

medications to be the first one to post here regularly. As a former type 2,

who turned into a type 1 last August, I posted here on practically a daily

basis for three months before I felt comfortable with my mastery of carb

counting, medications and exercise learning to manage this thing called

diabetes.

I also credit this list with saving my leg from amputation, since it was the

folks here who advised me that I probably had an infection, and this was at

the root of my problems in adjusting my medications and gaining control over

my glucose levels.

In a matter of four months I went from an A1C of 9.2 to an A1C of 5.7, and

this past March, a little over six months later, I had an A1C of 5.1.

I urge Dena to keep this message thread going and to post regularly. You

can serve as an example of a type 2 diabetic on oral medications, who

gained mastery and control of the primary three elements in managing

diabetes. Diet primarily carb counting, proper medication dosing and

exercise are crucial factors in managing this disease.

Come on Dena. Show others how it is done! Nothing like a little pressure

to boost the challenge.

<smile>

What was your last A1C reading and the date of the reading?

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> > 10/21/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > Walked 2.1 miles

> >

> > G 77

> >

> > Three hours post supper:

> >

> > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> >

> > G 97

> >

> > Lantus increased to 18 units

> >

> > Breakfast today:

> >

> > G 145

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 13

> >

> > Two hours post breakfast:

> >

> > G 121

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 125

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 12

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > G 118

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 103

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 8

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 108

> >

> > Lantus increased to 19 units

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes Dena, we are rooting for you. Myself, Harry, Bill, a type 2, and Pat and

others will all be here in this thread helping you along and answering your

questions.

Carb counting isn't difficult. Just get rid of quick acting carbs out of your

diet, or limit them, and replace them with green leafy veggies and healthy

meats. You just remove the quick acting carbs until you can keep your pre-meal

sugar 80 and your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. In order to get those blood

sugar results, limit your meals initially to 30 grams of carbs per meal. If you

can keep those blood sugar readings at 30 grams of carbs per meal, then up your

carbs to 45 grams per meal and see if you can keep tose blood sugar readings. If

you can't keep those numbers at 30 grams per meal, bump it down to 15 grams per

meal. In other words, test your carb sensitivity by starting at 30 grams per

meal and alter accordingly. Let your blood meter be your best friend! It will

tell you what you can handle, carbs per meal,and what you cannot handle.

Like Harry is encouraging you to do, ask, and ask, and ask, we are here to

answer. You can do it!

Regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> > 10/21/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > Walked 2.1 miles

> >

> > G 77

> >

> > Three hours post supper:

> >

> > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> >

> > G 97

> >

> > Lantus increased to 18 units

> >

> > Breakfast today:

> >

> > G 145

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 13

> >

> > Two hours post breakfast:

> >

> > G 121

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 125

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 12

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > G 118

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 103

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 8

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 108

> >

> > Lantus increased to 19 units

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I thought I would just point out to you that a Type 2 can never become a

Type 1 or vice versa. Yes you can become a non insulin dependent to a

insulin dependent but never change from a Type 2 to 1!

Re: advice for Harry

> > >

> > > 10/21/2003

> > >

> > > Last night:

> > >

> > > Two hours post supper:

> > >

> > > Walked 2.1 miles

> > >

> > > G 77

> > >

> > > Three hours post supper:

> > >

> > > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> > >

> > > G 97

> > >

> > > Lantus increased to 18 units

> > >

> > > Breakfast today:

> > >

> > > G 145

> > >

> > > C 15

> > >

> > > H 13

> > >

> > > Two hours post breakfast:

> > >

> > > G 121

> > >

> > > Lunch:

> > >

> > > G 125

> > >

> > > C 15

> > >

> > > H 12

> > >

> > > Two hours post lunch:

> > >

> > > G 118

> > >

> > > Supper:

> > >

> > > G 103

> > >

> > > C 15

> > >

> > > H 8

> > >

> > > Two hours post supper:

> > >

> > > G 108

> > >

> > > Lantus increased to 19 units

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi and listers,

Thanks for your support! This seems so overwhelming!

Do you take your glucometer to work and then bring it back home or do you

have two of them?

I'm hoping my boyfriend and I will start an exercise program soon and I know

we'll be doing more walking when the weather gets warmer.

Anyway, thanks to all of you for caring!

Dena and Seeing Eye Dog , the Golden Boy

Re: advice for Dena

Yes Dena, we are rooting for you. Myself, Harry, Bill, a type 2, and Pat and

others will all be here in this thread helping you along and answering your

questions.

Carb counting isn't difficult. Just get rid of quick acting carbs out of

your diet, or limit them, and replace them with green leafy veggies and

healthy meats. You just remove the quick acting carbs until you can keep

your pre-meal sugar 80 and your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. In order

to get those blood sugar results, limit your meals initially to 30 grams of

carbs per meal. If you can keep those blood sugar readings at 30 grams of

carbs per meal, then up your carbs to 45 grams per meal and see if you can

keep tose blood sugar readings. If you can't keep those numbers at 30 grams

per meal, bump it down to 15 grams per meal. In other words, test your carb

sensitivity by starting at 30 grams per meal and alter accordingly. Let your

blood meter be your best friend! It will tell you what you can handle, carbs

per meal,and what you cannot handle.

Like Harry is encouraging you to do, ask, and ask, and ask, we are here to

answer. You can do it!

Regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> > 10/21/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > Walked 2.1 miles

> >

> > G 77

> >

> > Three hours post supper:

> >

> > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> >

> > G 97

> >

> > Lantus increased to 18 units

> >

> > Breakfast today:

> >

> > G 145

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 13

> >

> > Two hours post breakfast:

> >

> > G 121

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 125

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 12

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > G 118

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 103

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 8

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 108

> >

> > Lantus increased to 19 units

> >

> >

> >

> >

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To keep from getting overwhelmed it might be wise to handle one question or

at most two of them at a time. So, what was your last A1C reading and the

date of that reading?

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I think you are right . Before I became insulin dependent last August

I had always read or heard for many years that a type 2 will usually become

a type 1 or an insulin dependent diabetic some where between ten and fifteen

years after the initial diagnosis of being a type 2 diabetic. With today's

knowledge and technology I wonder if this is necessarily true now. Even

though I was previously on oral medications for 16 years, I pretty much ate

any thing I wanted to eat including candy, cookies and pie and ice cream.

Doing this I still had an A1c lower than 6.1 for the entire previous 15

years after being diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. Even though my average

A1C was lower than 6.1, I still had wide glucose level swings ranging from

very high to very low. I understand that it was these wide glucose swings

that were the probable cause of my heart attacks, strokes and impotence.

Today's knowledge and research shows that a glucose level above 160 is the

primary cause of the formation of sorbitol which causes the death of the

affected cell. A person can only lose so many nerve cells before things

don't work right any more. Today I wonder had I kept my glucose levels

below 160 would I have had all of these physical problems and including

become insulin dependent.

I think the answer is all these problems I had could have been avoided and

this includes the problem of becoming insulin dependent.

I believe a person can test themselves to see how their system handles

sugar. If they drink a regular Coca Cola which contains around 40 grams of

carbs and 40 minutes after drinking the Coca Cola their glucose level goes

beyond 160, then they are in trouble, if they persist in drinking regular

Cokes or consuming high carbohydrate foods. Of course one would have to

test the blood sugar level before drinking the Coke. For example I can have

a pre-Coke glucose level of 100. Fourty minutes after drinking a regular

Coke my glucose level is around 350, which is definitely not good at all,

and it signals the formation of sorbitol in the affected cells, which

essentially puts that cell out of action forever.

Re: advice for Harry

> > > >

> > > > 10/21/2003

> > > >

> > > > Last night:

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > Walked 2.1 miles

> > > >

> > > > G 77

> > > >

> > > > Three hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> > > >

> > > > G 97

> > > >

> > > > Lantus increased to 18 units

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast today:

> > > >

> > > > G 145

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 13

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post breakfast:

> > > >

> > > > G 121

> > > >

> > > > Lunch:

> > > >

> > > > G 125

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 12

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post lunch:

> > > >

> > > > G 118

> > > >

> > > > Supper:

> > > >

> > > > G 103

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 8

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > G 108

> > > >

> > > > Lantus increased to 19 units

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Oh, Harry.

I don't know. But I'll find out from my doctor. Sorry.

My fasting this a.m. with only one stick mind you, was 61!

My problem is that I never eat breakfast before I go to work. Obviously,

I'm like most people, I probably love those " fast acting " carbs, whatever

they are. What could I eat on the run?

Shoot. That's too many questions. Now that I've got a captive audience ...

(smile)

Thanks.

Re: advice for Dena

To keep from getting overwhelmed it might be wise to handle one question or

at most two of them at a time. So, what was your last A1C reading and the

date of that reading?

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I wish to modify one of my statements below, where I talked about a glucose

level above 160. Since the glucose levels are constantly changing going up

and down like a wave a peak glucose level of above 160 is what is to be

avoided. Sorbitol is formed in the affected cell when the glucose level is

above 160. It is also important to avoid those low valleys, too. We all

know that a low glucose level can kill you quicker than a high glucose

level. After all if we learn to apply common sense to the matter, it makes

perfect understanding. If you have ever been sailing on the ocean, you

would find it very pleasant going to do so in a calm sea with a gentle

breeze. A calm sea is characterized by smooth waves around one to two feet

high and hardly any lows. Now get that breeze going high and fast and see

what happens to those waves. In high breeze conditions like high winds the

waves form peaks higher and higher as the wind gets higher and higher, until

in hurricane conditions one can encounter winds above 75 miles per hour and

waves that peak at between 45 feet or more. From the peak of the wave to

the bottom of the valley of the wave can be more than fifty feet, and I

don't believe many of us would survive a fall of this distance. It is sort

of like jumping out of the fifth floor of a tall building.

If there is no breeze, there are no waves and the boat goes no where.

The wind analogy to glucose levels may now be understood, if one considers

the breeze as the energy force for the ocean and the sailboat, as glucose is

the energy source for the functioning of our body cells.

Like an engine the heart will no longer pump, if it runs out of fuel.

The goal of the diabetic is to maintain a calm sea with a gentle breeze,

which is defined as a glucose level ranging from a low of 70 to a high of

120.

May you always have sunshine on your face and a gentle breeze to your back.

Re: advice for Harry

> > > > >

> > > > > 10/21/2003

> > > > >

> > > > > Last night:

> > > > >

> > > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > > >

> > > > > Walked 2.1 miles

> > > > >

> > > > > G 77

> > > > >

> > > > > Three hours post supper:

> > > > >

> > > > > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> > > > >

> > > > > G 97

> > > > >

> > > > > Lantus increased to 18 units

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast today:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 145

> > > > >

> > > > > C 15

> > > > >

> > > > > H 13

> > > > >

> > > > > Two hours post breakfast:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 121

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunch:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 125

> > > > >

> > > > > C 15

> > > > >

> > > > > H 12

> > > > >

> > > > > Two hours post lunch:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 118

> > > > >

> > > > > Supper:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 103

> > > > >

> > > > > C 15

> > > > >

> > > > > H 8

> > > > >

> > > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > > >

> > > > > G 108

> > > > >

> > > > > Lantus increased to 19 units

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi Dena.

I have 1 meter and take it everywhere with me. I have a plastic bread box, I.E

that holds 1 loaf of bread, and put all my diabetic supplies in it, including

meter, and bring it with me and sit it on the back table at my office. It's not

that large and intrusive.

hope that helps.

Regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> > 10/21/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > Walked 2.1 miles

> >

> > G 77

> >

> > Three hours post supper:

> >

> > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> >

> > G 97

> >

> > Lantus increased to 18 units

> >

> > Breakfast today:

> >

> > G 145

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 13

> >

> > Two hours post breakfast:

> >

> > G 121

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 125

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 12

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > G 118

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 103

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 8

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 108

> >

> > Lantus increased to 19 units

> >

> >

> >

> >

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good advice Harry. It is all a matter of getting your 2 hour post meal test 120

or less simply by cutting out quick acting carbs since they break down to sugar

and kill us. Every persons carb sensitivity is different. I.E some may be able

to eat a little more carb grams per meal than others but the bottom line is,

carbohydrates raise blood sugar and contribute to diabetic complications.

Regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> > > >

> > > > 10/21/2003

> > > >

> > > > Last night:

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > Walked 2.1 miles

> > > >

> > > > G 77

> > > >

> > > > Three hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> > > >

> > > > G 97

> > > >

> > > > Lantus increased to 18 units

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast today:

> > > >

> > > > G 145

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 13

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post breakfast:

> > > >

> > > > G 121

> > > >

> > > > Lunch:

> > > >

> > > > G 125

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 12

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post lunch:

> > > >

> > > > G 118

> > > >

> > > > Supper:

> > > >

> > > > G 103

> > > >

> > > > C 15

> > > >

> > > > H 8

> > > >

> > > > Two hours post supper:

> > > >

> > > > G 108

> > > >

> > > > Lantus increased to 19 units

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dena, If you like yogurt, that is easy to carry with a plastic spoon and if

you get the yogurt that has 15 or 16 grams of carb, it is a filling

breakfast.

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To keep from getting overwhelmed it might be wise to handle one question or

at most two of them at a time. So, what was your last A1C reading and the

date of that reading?

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Hello, Dena

I always carry my glucose meter with me. It is in a plastic container with

a strap-or I put it in my back pack. It is kind of a pain as it is larger

than I thinki it should be-but it is real handy if I start feeling weird!

the main problem with it is that it is rather temperature sensitive and if

it became too hot or too cold, it would not work. this was a problem when I

was working as my job required I be out int he field in and out of a car.

when I was in the office, it was not a problem.

Re: advice for Dena

Yes Dena, we are rooting for you. Myself, Harry, Bill, a type 2, and Pat and

others will all be here in this thread helping you along and answering your

questions.

Carb counting isn't difficult. Just get rid of quick acting carbs out of

your diet, or limit them, and replace them with green leafy veggies and

healthy meats. You just remove the quick acting carbs until you can keep

your pre-meal sugar 80 and your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. In order

to get those blood sugar results, limit your meals initially to 30 grams of

carbs per meal. If you can keep those blood sugar readings at 30 grams of

carbs per meal, then up your carbs to 45 grams per meal and see if you can

keep tose blood sugar readings. If you can't keep those numbers at 30 grams

per meal, bump it down to 15 grams per meal. In other words, test your carb

sensitivity by starting at 30 grams per meal and alter accordingly. Let your

blood meter be your best friend! It will tell you what you can handle, carbs

per meal,and what you cannot handle.

Like Harry is encouraging you to do, ask, and ask, and ask, we are here to

answer. You can do it!

Regards,

Re: advice for Harry

> >

> > 10/21/2003

> >

> > Last night:

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > Walked 2.1 miles

> >

> > G 77

> >

> > Three hours post supper:

> >

> > No carbs consumed since walk and supper.

> >

> > G 97

> >

> > Lantus increased to 18 units

> >

> > Breakfast today:

> >

> > G 145

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 13

> >

> > Two hours post breakfast:

> >

> > G 121

> >

> > Lunch:

> >

> > G 125

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 12

> >

> > Two hours post lunch:

> >

> > G 118

> >

> > Supper:

> >

> > G 103

> >

> > C 15

> >

> > H 8

> >

> > Two hours post supper:

> >

> > G 108

> >

> > Lantus increased to 19 units

> >

> >

> >

> >

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ok, if you had that large of a raise in your blood sugar, there are two

possibilities. Just remember, all blood sugar readings that you have... there is

a reason behind the madness *smile*.

First, if you ate breakfast, what you ate had to many carbs in it. How many

carbohydrates did you eat for breakfast? Have someone read the label of the

foods you ate and determine it. If you get the carb gram guide from Harry/Pat,

that is just a general guide, not the bible. I.E it might say bread is 12 grams

but the bread you ate, according to your bag/label on the bag has 22 grams per

slice. So, it is best to read your labels or have someone sighted help you read

it. If you need help on this/some ideas, let me know.

If you did not eat breakfast, and if your sugar rose like that in the morning,

it is because your medication needs adjusted/increased or you might want to

consider going on lantus to help your blood sugar between meals stay down.

However, you have to study this pattern for at least 3 days to see if your

morning sugar raises like that for at least three days to determine if you need

to adjust medication or simply cut back carb grams for breakfast.

Let us know if you ate breakfast and if so, what you ate and how many carb grams

were in it. Recall, limit your meals for now to 30 grams of carbs per meal and

keep your meals 4 hours apart. If you did not eat any breakfast and had that

spike in your sugar, then you need to look into adjusting your medication or

getting on lantus insulin.

Regards,

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>

> To keep from getting overwhelmed it might be wise to handle one question

or

> at most two of them at a time. So, what was your last A1C reading and the

> date of that reading?

>

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BTW Dena try to test your sugar 2 hours past eating since the goal here is to

get your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. Read this email a few times and it

will really help you understand how we will do this task. How do we do this?

Simple, first, we try it via adjusting your meals and keeping your medication

the same. I.E eat all meals 4 hours apart and limit each meal to 30 grams of

carbs and no more. Once you solidly stick to keeping your meals 4 hours apart,

and eating no more than 30 grams per meal, we can begin to study your blood

sugar patterns and logically determine how to help you. The key here is to give

us measurable data. Your body is like a computer of sorts, give it exact numbers

and it will give us measurable results. BTW I'm a programmer *smile* so I think

of things like this. So, if you keep meals 4 hours a part, and if you keep each

meal 30 grams of carbs, those are fixed numbers that will help us get the same 2

hour post meal results so we can use that data to help you adjust your carbs per

meal down/up according to your two hour post meal readings. Makes sense if you

really think about it.

If you have questions, let me know. Main thing I want you to hear is meals are 4

hours apart and at each meal you eat, no more than 30 grams of carbs. You

determine the grams of carbs in food by reading the label or use that general

guide that pat/harry may have sent you.

For example, replace quick acting carbs at meals like

rice/bread/pasta/cookies/etc. with salad and good meats. For dinner, to have a

30 gram meal, you could have a large tossed salad loaded with lunch meat and a

non-sweet dressing. You also could have 1 slice of buttered bread to go with it.

That meal would be about 30 grams of carbs.

The other night my wife/me had roast in the crockpot. It was loaded with

potatoes and carrots which both are high in carbs. I took the roast and ate it

with gravey over top of it since meat is very low carb and ate 1 piece of

buttered bread and a large salad. I also had green beans. Notice I replaced the

quick acting carbs, potatos and carrots, with veggies like salad and green

beans but had only 1 quick acting carb, the single slice of buttered bread. This

meal was about 20 grams of carbs and my two hour post meal test was 106. Why?

Simple, there wasn't enough quick acting carbs I ate to spike my blood sugar to

160 like you had for breakfast.

Regards,

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>

> To keep from getting overwhelmed it might be wise to handle one question

or

> at most two of them at a time. So, what was your last A1C reading and the

> date of that reading?

>

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I never received a request from Dena informing me she wished to have the

carb counting guide, so I never sent it to her.

Did you get such a request ? Did you send her the carb counting

guide?

RE: advice for Dena

>

>

>

> Fasting blood sugar this a.m. was 61 and three hours after meal was 168.

> Unfortunately, my Feb. 19, 2004 a1c was 8.1! I have a lot of work ahead

of

> me.

> Dena and Seeing Eye dog , the Golden Boy

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Thanks Harry. I got a listing from .

I'm wondering if my meter's not right. My fasting was over 200!

I'm trying to get the fast-acting carbs used up! A lot of my meds are

$40.00 a month and my cash flow runs short. I don't want to waste what I've

already bought!

I HATE the taste of lettuce!!!!!! I drown it with dressing! What is a good

dressing that I can use to drown it that's not harmful? I do love meat so

that's not a problem!

It took me at least seven times to get my reading this a.m. Trying to

regulate my meal times and remember to take my reading while I'm at work are

habits I'm going to have to acquire. I'm going to set myself a reminder

appointment when I get my BN back. At least, I've been remembering to take

my monitor to work. Just didn't remember to use it today. I was really

busy at work.

Thanks for your help, gang. I truly want to do better!

Dena and Seeing Eye dog , the Golden Boy

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I never received a request from Dena informing me she wished to have the

carb counting guide, so I never sent it to her.

Did you get such a request ? Did you send her the carb counting

guide?

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> Unfortunately, my Feb. 19, 2004 a1c was 8.1! I have a lot of work ahead

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I think your glucose monitor is probably alright. For an A1C reading of 8.0

the average glucose reading would run between:

180 (205)

Lack of money can certainly be a big deterrent in diabetes management, and I

am sure others here would agree.

You and your health must take center stage.

By the way do you know the date when you were first diagnosed as a diabetic?

Do you have health insurance or Medicare?

Hang in there and let's work with what we have and know.

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sell the carbs to another person for half the price so it is not a total loss.

Why eat those foods and risk hurting your body when you can make a slight profit

off them. Just bring them to work and sell them. I.E if you have a box of

twinkies, bring them to work, sit them on your desk, sell 1 twinkie for 25 cents

and make some money at it. I love Italian dressing on salad and lots of fresh

lunch meats/cheeses to top the salad with. If you don't like salad, try other

veggies like broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, etc. and you can always eat a

nice chunk of meat with the veggies for lunch/dinner. I.E put you a chunk of

roast and some cauliflower, or desired non-starchy veggie, in a Tupperware

bowl, bring to work, microwave for 2 mins, your good to go. For dessert... a

little tub of sugar free jello and a diet cola.

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> Unfortunately, my Feb. 19, 2004 a1c was 8.1! I have a lot of work ahead

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Dena.

whatever you ate prior to bed last evening, or for dinner, spiked your blood

sugar so badly that you were in the 200 range for breakfast. I'm betting you ate

some carb infested foods and yup, like I was saying, carbs in, result is high

blood sugar*smile*. Look at what you ate for last nights dinner/bedtime snack

and try to come up with low-carb alternatives for the foods so your sugar would

not be 200 in the morning. I.E make you a nice snack plate of low carb foods

prior to bed such as cheeses, olives, pickles, etc.

BTW Dena, I must be honest with you, once your sugars are undercontrol, you will

feel like you have so much energy that you can not even believe you are the same

person. It is wonderful! Just ask Harry!

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Good for you Dena for trying so hard. Using up the carb foods you have is

okay if you just eat about half of what you are used to eating. I know

budget is important, but your health is more important!

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I never received a request from Dena informing me she wished to have the

carb counting guide, so I never sent it to her.

Did you get such a request ? Did you send her the carb counting

guide?

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> Unfortunately, my Feb. 19, 2004 a1c was 8.1! I have a lot of work ahead

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Dena,

I have never heard your reply to the question posed below:

What is the birthday of your diagnosis of diabetes?

or you may prefer to say the first year of the initial diagnosis of diabetes

or you may wish to say how many years you have been dealing with your

diabetes.

I ask only because this is important information to know.

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> With an A1C over 8.0 a definite and dramatic change in your behavior

> concerning diet, exercise and possibly medication is immediately required.

> I am curious as to how your doctor responded to this information, and I

> would appreciate your letting me know.

> Did he/she instruct you to do better on your diet by giving you specific

> guidelines on carbohydrate counting?

> Were you referred to a nutritionist?

> Did your medications change?

> Were you given any instructions regarding an exercise program?

> Did he schedule a return appointment for you in March?

> If your doctor did not do all of the above, I can guarantee you that your

> diabetes does not bother him/her in the least.

> My doctor was ignorant as to the importance of the A1C results, and I have

> taken it upon myself to educate him regarding my health, and he is working

> with me. Last August when my A1C came back with a reading of 9.2, and I

> also felt bad, I felt desperate to get some help, and that is why I

> re-subscribed to this list serve, where I knew I could get some help from

> knowledgeable and experienced people.

> I am glad expert assistance is available right here. It is good to know

> that you recognize that you need to make some definite changes in your

life

> regarding your health, and I am glad to see you here.

> By your following the advice you get here I definitely believe you can get

> your diabetes under your control within the next three or four months.

> BTW what is the birthday of your diabetes?

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