RE: question re:non-albicans yeast

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was a totally healthy 32 year old who was under some stress with my 2

babies. I had been nursing for 13 months so I was a little run down but I

certainly wasn't immuno compromised. I got a rare yeast called Candida

Krusei. So it is possible. This yeast took 7 months to finally get to the

point where it didn't culture out. Then I switched doctors because mine

wasn't addressing the pain. I just did a culture with a naturopath to look

for rare yeasts again. I still have constant irritation. It feels like I

have used a pad for too long if you know what I mean. I'll know on Monday if

I still have a rare yeast and will keep you and the group posted.

Sandi

[Guest guest]

Hi and Everyone,

You mentioned in your post about the heavy discharge. Well, I too have been

dealing with this discharge for quite a while now. I have been on

antibiotics before, but the discharge keeps coming back. Now this new doctor

that I went to see on Wed. (vulvar specialist) said that I have cervicitis

and narrowing of the cervical cannal so bad that he couldn't get a q-tip in

to do a swab. I have a prescription of doxcycline for 10 days. Here we go

again. I just don't know anymore. I don't feel that my discharge is related

to yeast though. Not really that itchey and no cottage cheese discharge. My

discharge also changes in consistancy and color throughout the month, but

some of this is normal. My discharge is looking kind of yellow/brown lately.

The brown is slight blood. Why makes you so sure your discharge is yeast?

My discharge also had many white blood cells in it. However all of my

cultures come back negative for everything.

Hope you are feeling better.

Eileen

New York

[Guest guest]

My discharge is the same way, I know it has nothing to do with yeast for me.

It is normally clear but it does turn color when the vv is real bad.

[Guest guest]

Ann,

You haven't missed anything. I probably posted by zillions of theories

(yeast, reaction to monistat, etc) at earlier times and don't really

know which one is right anymore.

My reasons for thinking yeast are this: my vv started after I got what

I think was a yeast infection (I didn't go to the Dr. to get that

confirmed, which I should have) after taking antibiotics. After using

Monistat (and being in serious pain from that) the intense itching went

away, but a discharge remained and POC with a burning feeling became a

problem. Since then I've had a clueless GYN treat me for over a year

for the discharge using antibacterial methods to no real avail. The

discharge, while it lessened for a short period of time, always came

back, in various forms (varying color, consistency, amounts, etc). So

I'd have to think that this discharge is caused by a yeast, rather than

a bacteria.

But my current doctor, who supposedly specializes in this, doesn't think

its yeast b/c I didn't have improvement at all w/Diflucan, and I don't

have any real yeast infection symptoms (and of course all of my past

cultures have not revealed yeast). Since she looked at my discharge

today and saw way too many white blood cells (and told me that indicated

an infection/inflammation), she's treating me for a bacterial infection,

while scratching her head at my splitting skin and burning pain with and

just after sex (hypothesizing that maybe it's something in the Estrace,

so I'm going to modify my dosage of that) because with the Estrace, my

skin looks very pink and healthy.

If this treatment for bacteria doesn't work, (and I should know in 2

weeks) then I'll be pretty convinced that it's yeast, because what else

could be causing this discharge/infection/inflammation? But of course,

I'm not a doctor, and she is....

So, in a nutshell, that's why I suspect yeast,, and specifically, a

non-albicans yeast that is not treatable with diflucan.

that enough info?

-- G.

> Re: question re:non-albicans yeast

>

> From: CAhouse5@...

>

> In a message dated 99-09-10 16:24:50 EDT, you write:

>

> << This conversation was all

> based on my desire to talk about the possiblity of going on Nizoral,

> which she is very opposed to (because she doens't think my problem is

> yeast). >>

> ________________

> Hi

> Why do you think your problem is yeast?

> I have alot of thoughts on this...and get angry when gynecologists

> dismiss it

> out of hand...like they have any answers anyhow...

> Let me know your thoughts on why you are looking in the yeast

> direction...or

> did I miss that post...?

> Ann

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My VV began after I had Candida Tropicalis. My immune system was not

compromised. I was in the hospital being treated for a complicated urinary

tract infection. I was receiving very strong IV antibiotics (Gentamycian &

Ampicillian) for five days. Before that whole episode, I had only had three

yeast infections during my lifetime, which were all Candida Albicans. The

doctors told me I most likely developed the Tropicalis because the IV meds

just overloaded my system. Diflucan is not effective against Tropicalis

therefore I was put on Sporonox and the yeast went away and never returned.

Hope this answered some of your questions.

Debra

deb.leigh@...

question re:non-albicans yeast

>

>

>

> I am just full of questions today, aren't I?

>

> I asked my doctor about the possiblity that I have an uncommon yeast

> (non-albicans) and that the Diflucan that I was on previously was not

> effective against those types of yeast. She said that really the only

> people who get non-albican yeast are those with compromised immune

> systems to begin with -- that the other yeasts are actually quite

> difficult to get. She also said that if my problem were any type of

> yeast (which she doens't think it is) she'd see some evidence of the

> yeast when she looked under the microscope and I would have worse,

> continually symptoms, rather than just POC. This conversation was all

> based on my desire to talk about the possiblity of going on Nizoral,

> which she is very opposed to (because she doens't think my problem is

> yeast).

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> thanks again!

>

> -- G.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 99-09-12 17:49:47 EDT, you write:

<< About the Elavil. Many people have taken it. For pureVV as in nerve

damage it works . But it willl do nothing to cure an infection.I was on it

6yrs ago and it ended up a bacterial infection. Meanwhile I suffered th side

efffects. >>

__________________

What are the side effects?

I am thinking it can't be any worse than the burning...

Ann

[Guest guest]

,

Your symptoms sound like BV. But could be yeast. I believe that it is

bettter too not do anything unless you have a definate diagnosis. Guesssing

on infections and taking meds can lead to problems like irratation from them

or further unbalance of the vaginal flora.

About the Elavil. Many people have taken it. For pureVV as in nerve

damage it works . But it willl do nothing to cure an infection.I was on it

6yrs ago and it ended up a bacterial infection. Meanwhile I suffered th side

efffects.

Dont be put off by the antidepreesssant label. It is used on nerve

endings in this case.Also there should be no stigma with meds.

God bless this is complcated and hard on us all.

Love, ellen

question re:non-albicans yeast

>

>

>

>I am just full of questions today, aren't I?

>

>I asked my doctor about the possiblity that I have an uncommon yeast

>(non-albicans) and that the Diflucan that I was on previously was not

>effective against those types of yeast. She said that really the only

>people who get non-albican yeast are those with compromised immune

>systems to begin with -- that the other yeasts are actually quite

>difficult to get. She also said that if my problem were any type of

>yeast (which she doens't think it is) she'd see some evidence of the

>yeast when she looked under the microscope and I would have worse,

>continually symptoms, rather than just POC. This conversation was all

>based on my desire to talk about the possiblity of going on Nizoral,

>which she is very opposed to (because she doens't think my problem is

>yeast).

>

>Any thoughts?

>

>thanks again!

>

>-- G.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi allison... me again. I just wanted to add I never heard of Zithromax used

for gyno purposes . I know it is a antibiotic used for skin? ear infections.

ellen

Re: question re:non-albicans yeast

>>

>> From: CAhouse5@...

>>

>> In a message dated 99-09-10 16:24:50 EDT, you write:

>>

>> << This conversation was all

>> based on my desire to talk about the possiblity of going on Nizoral,

>> which she is very opposed to (because she doens't think my problem is

>> yeast). >>

>> ________________

>> Hi

>> Why do you think your problem is yeast?

>> I have alot of thoughts on this...and get angry when gynecologists

>> dismiss it

>> out of hand...like they have any answers anyhow...

>> Let me know your thoughts on why you are looking in the yeast

>> direction...or

>> did I miss that post...?

>> Ann

>>

>> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

ellen,

I looked up Zithromax last week on MedLine's drug list, and it said it

was most commonly used for gonorrhea, pneumonia, chlamydia, tonsillitis

and then a bunch of other stuff that I couldn't translate into everyday

terms. It seems like a general antibiotic with several specific

gynecological uses.

I've been on it for 2 1/2 days now (it's a 5-day regimen), way too soon

to notice any change I believe. Actually, the only change I noticed was

an INCREASE in discharge before I went to sleep last night, and I hope

that is not because of this antibiotic. But who knows (my only thought

on this was that if my problem is yeast, maybe the antibiotic is killing

off the bacteria that keeps my yeast a bit in check and the yeast

infection is getting worse -- pure theory though, no basis in actual

knowledge). At the very least, my doctor has agreed to pursue this

discharge thing if the antibiotic doesn't take it away.

-- G.

> Re: question re:non-albicans yeast

> >>

> >> From: CAhouse5@...

> >>

> >> In a message dated 99-09-10 16:24:50 EDT, you write:

> >>

> >> << This conversation was all

> >> based on my desire to talk about the possiblity of going on

> Nizoral,

> >> which she is very opposed to (because she doens't think my problem

> is

> >> yeast). >>

> >> ________________

> >> Hi

> >> Why do you think your problem is yeast?

> >> I have alot of thoughts on this...and get angry when gynecologists

> >> dismiss it

> >> out of hand...like they have any answers anyhow...

> >> Let me know your thoughts on why you are looking in the yeast

> >> direction...or

> >> did I miss that post...?

> >> Ann

> >>

> >> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

I don't know that my discharge problem is yeast. It, in fact, looks

like a classic BV discharge, but I've previously done 2 courses of

topical antibiotic (cream inserted w/applicator) which did not clear it

up. I will not accept the explanation that it is just my normal

discharge now, b/c I was not like this before and there is way too much

discharge for it to be normal. I have to figure that if these

antibiotics don't take it away, that something else is causing the

discharge. The only other thing that I know about that could possibly

cause it is yeast. Just because I don't have the classic yeast

infection symptoms (clumpy discharge and itching) does not convince me

that this is not yeast.

We'll see what happens on this course of antibiotics (Zithromax -- day 3

1/2 with one pill left and no change yet, except perhaps a slight

increase in amount and yellowing of color -- but I'm also coming up to

my period and that could explain those changes). As I've said before,

if I see no change in another 1 1/2 weeks, I'm going back to my GYN and

she is going to specifically look for non-albicans yeast (this gyn has

not done that yet) or anything else that she might be able to figure

out. I'm convinced that if we figure out the cause of my discharge,

we'll figure out the cause of my POC/burning with sex/penetration.

-- G.

> Re: question re:non-albicans yeast

>

> From: Eihafner@...

>

> Hi and Everyone,

>

> You mentioned in your post about the heavy discharge. Well, I too

> have been

> dealing with this discharge for quite a while now. I have been on

> antibiotics before, but the discharge keeps coming back. Now this new

> doctor

> that I went to see on Wed. (vulvar specialist) said that I have

> cervicitis

> and narrowing of the cervical cannal so bad that he couldn't get a

> q-tip in

> to do a swab. I have a prescription of doxcycline for 10 days. Here

> we go

> again. I just don't know anymore. I don't feel that my discharge is

> related

> to yeast though. Not really that itchey and no cottage cheese

> discharge. My

> discharge also changes in consistancy and color throughout the month,

> but

> some of this is normal. My discharge is looking kind of yellow/brown

> lately.

> The brown is slight blood. Why makes you so sure your discharge is

> yeast?

> My discharge also had many white blood cells in it. However all of my

>

> cultures come back negative for everything.

>

> Hope you are feeling better.

>

> Eileen

> New York

>

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