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Having just read Susie's post regarding low carb eating using lots of

veggies vs. pork rinds and cream, I have to admit that is how I started out

on low carb. I read Atkins before finding Dr. Bernstein's book. What a

thrill...eat all the foods I had given up on low fat eating! Yes, I went

overboard on the fats, pork rinds, etc. and suffered from this. Dr.

Bernstein does aallow the use of cream and cream cheese but even Dr. Atkins

does not endorse everyday overuse of these items. They are for occasional

use only.

Found this list and Dr. Bernstein and have altered the low carb I am using.

However, now that I am on insulin (70/30) with good results, I still am not

losing any weight (have not checked it again since the last NP visit in

which weight was still the same). My biggest problem is trying to get in the

exercise (I know, no excuses!). I know that the insulin causes weight gain

when bg's are under good control. It gets very frustrating when you use low

carb, get good control and are unable to lose any weight and the NP/dr wants

you to lose at least 10-20 lbs.

It is even more frustrating because when I was first diagnosed I lost 40 lbs

by eating high carb and exercising. I cut out all fats at that time and rode

an exercise bike twice a day, 10 miles at a time. Then my bike

broke...trying to get another one. I enjoyed every meal I ate and my family

did too as we had very balanced meals (albeit with pasta and potatoes, rice,

etc.). Now I can eat about 2 tbsp of any of the above with a minor rise in

bg's but most of the time I just don't bother with those foods.

So everyone has a different way of doing things that as long as it works for

them, good! This list just lets everyone voice their opinions and yes,

sometimes the low carbers seem to be on a soapbox but it does work. However,

if what you use works, don't change what you are doing.

Sorry this is so long...Susie, hope you are feeling better. I was thrown off

a horse when I was five and 40 yrs later I don't care to ever do that again!

Kandy

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Kandy wrote about frustration over weight loss. Grrrl, I think most of us

suffer from the same problem. I seem to have to starve myself to knock off

even a little! The diabetes fights us every step of the way! (I believe that

the diabetes comes first, and causes the weight gain - rather than the other

way around.) I managed to lose a pound during this period of immobility ...

but it has meant eating very little for over a week. You wrote:

<< Sorry this is so long...Susie, hope you are feeling better. I was thrown

off

a horse when I was five and 40 yrs later I don't care to ever do that again!

>>

My " adventure " with Dusty may have been my last as well. Sometimes we just

accept that it's time to give certain things up. When I was 17, I broke my

nose doing a back flip off the high dive at a new swimming pool with a very

springy fiberglas board. Determined not to let that critter get the best of

me, I went back a month later and attempted it again ... and rebroke my

nose! And nope - I haven't dived since!

It's not only the expense of this, but my pain and immobility have pretty

much brought our lives to a halt. Rob is spending what little free time he

has caring for me and doing the housework I ordinarily do. I just want to

get better, and for the pain to stop. I'm 53 years old, and a diabetic. I

need to quit trying to act like, " Sheena, Queena the Ponies " or something!

Susie :o)

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Sheena, Queen of the ponies:

Hope you get well soon. Sorry to hear about all of your problems. Hope

you are able to enjoy the outdoors on this beautiful weekend.

:) Erwin

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>I'm 53 years old, and a diabetic. I

>need to quit trying to act like, " Sheena, Queena the Ponies " or something!

****Well, Susie, at 53 I did promise my orthopedic surgeon (broken

collarbone, cracked rib, cracked scapula) that I'd stop starting colts

<grin>, and I actually have, except for the very very sensible appy/TB cross

:-)

Feel better - *this too shall pass*, and all that other happy horse pucky,

Barb

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>I have really been in pain, and can barely move. But last night I got my

>courage up and let Rob help me into the hot tub, and today, I feel that,

>instead of one baby step per day, I gained three baby steps.

Hi Susie,

So sorry to hear about your accident. Glad to hear you are feeling a little

better. Just wanted to relay an experience I had with my back. I really

pulled it out on a piece of exercise equipment and it just would not heal. I

used heating pads and took hot baths for almost a eight months and I was

still really sore. Anyway one day somebody recommended ice packs and within

a week the pain was gone. Upshot is now I always use ice and it really helps

injuries go away faster. Hope this helps....

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Erwin wrote:

<< Hope you get well soon. Sorry to hear about all of your problems. Hope

you are able to enjoy the outdoors on this beautiful weekend. >>

Rob has just endured a major problem at work (the power plant shut down to

refurbish major equipment, and everything went wrong), so this was a good

test of our relationship. Lots of stress ... but I think we made it ...

I have really been in pain, and can barely move. But last night I got my

courage up and let Rob help me into the hot tub, and today, I feel that,

instead of one baby step per day, I gained three baby steps. So in a few

minutes Rob is going to wire up the sound system and TV in the spa room and

we're going to give it another " go " tonight.

We're still able to laugh ... and accept that we cannot maintain our normal

standards while I am immobilized. I'll spy something on the floor and think,

" I'm going to pick that up ... AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH ... Okay, I'm not gonna

pick it up! " I finally gave myself a bath, shave and shampoo last night. (My

long hair had begun resembling dreadlocks.) We think certain events would be

just devastating - but somehow we endure. I kept a porta-potty next to the

couch where I have been sleeping the past week or so, and Rob has been very

good-natured about emptying and cleaning it. Poor dear ...

Erwin, please tell us how you are coming along. I keep puzzling over your

readings, which are moderately hypoglycemic despite eating pretty much

normal carbohydrate intake. I am interested to see if there are any changes,

and I'd really like to know your next test results. We are all individuals -

but your response is unique in my experience.

Hugs,

Susie :o)

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SUSIE --

It's good to hear you are making progress even though it must seem

minuscule at times. Never loose sight of the fact that progress IS

progress. Sometimes standing still is progress, I suppose. At least

you're not going backwards.

GROUP --

Re the low carb eating thread --- I call my WOE " low carb " . To some I

suppose my 150-160 grams a day is not strictly " low " carb. My pattern is

more a no simple carbs. No bread, rice, potatoes, spaghetti, pasta, and

the like. Except a sandwich[es] on the week-ends, and a high fiber cereal

at breakfast. I have lost weight on this diet, and my last HbA1c is 5.26.

Fasting sugars are in the low 90's. I should check post prandials

more frequently, but I get busy and the hour or 2-hour slot goes by without

my being aware of them. A timer often dings, and I'll vow to do it when I

" finish this sentence " only to remember a half an hour later that the thing

dinged.

I think we all need to remember YMMV. (Your Mileage May Vary.) We are

all different. As someone suggested about the carrots -- eat some. Then

check you sugar levels. Than you will know what carrots do FOR YOU.

At 05:54 PM 5/28/00 -0700, you wrote:

>Erwin wrote:

>

><< Hope you get well soon. Sorry to hear about all of your problems. Hope

>you are able to enjoy the outdoors on this beautiful weekend. >>

>

>Rob has just endured a major problem at work (the power plant shut down to

>refurbish major equipment, and everything went wrong), so this was a good

>test of our relationship. Lots of stress ... but I think we made it ...

>

>I have really been in pain, and can barely move. But last night I got my

>courage up and let Rob help me into the hot tub, and today, I feel that,

>instead of one baby step per day, I gained three baby steps. So in a few

>minutes Rob is going to wire up the sound system and TV in the spa room and

>we're going to give it another " go " tonight.

>

>We're still able to laugh ... and accept that we cannot maintain our normal

>standards while I am immobilized. I'll spy something on the floor and think,

> " I'm going to pick that up ... AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH ... Okay, I'm not gonna

>pick it up! " I finally gave myself a bath, shave and shampoo last night. (My

>long hair had begun resembling dreadlocks.) We think certain events would be

>just devastating - but somehow we endure. I kept a porta-potty next to the

>couch where I have been sleeping the past week or so, and Rob has been very

>good-natured about emptying and cleaning it. Poor dear ...

>

>Erwin, please tell us how you are coming along. I keep puzzling over your

>readings, which are moderately hypoglycemic despite eating pretty much

>normal carbohydrate intake. I am interested to see if there are any changes,

>and I'd really like to know your next test results. We are all individuals -

>but your response is unique in my experience.

>

>Hugs,

>Susie :o)

>

>

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<< ... one day somebody recommended ice packs and within a week the pain was

gone. Upshot is now I always use ice and it really helps injuries go away

faster. >>

Rob has been suggesting the same thing. But in the hospital they told me ice

the first day or two, then heat after that. You really wonder how much of

our medical care is sicence and how much is weird voodoo or something ...

hahahaha.

The part that really hurts is my sacrum or my hip (not sure which). There is

some fresh bleeding there. I don't have a heating pad, and haven't tried the

ice yet. But one of the really powerful spa jets is just in the right spot

to blast on the injury. And if feels like all the muscles in that area are

bunched up from " guarding " the injured spot, if you will ... and the jets

just seem to smooth things out. By the way, we do not run the spa at the

" recommended " setting of 102 degrees! We keep it in the 92-97 range.

Susie

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