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OK, that had me in tears. I feel the same exact way that you have felt and

still I have issues with it, but I'm learning, now that I have children, to

accept who I am and enjoy what I have. Thanks for reminding me!!!!

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Learning to love yourself is a tough thing, even for

the perfect people. Accepting yourself, seeing your

strengths, loving your body for all that it does

instead of for what it doesn't do, that takes

practice. As women with children, the fact that we

have grown humans gives us quite an advantage in that

arena. The amazing things our bodies have done make

it easier for us to appreciate them.

--- rocco0425@... wrote:

> OK, that had me in tears. I feel the same exact way

> that you have felt and

> still I have issues with it, but I'm learning, now

> that I have children, to

> accept who I am and enjoy what I have. Thanks for

> reminding me!!!!

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Thanks , you have a lovely way with words

I also feel PROUD of my body as it is, even though it lets me down some

days. The fact that I can still walk, drive, swim, hold down 2 jobs, set up

a freelance business AND cope with TCS, erythromelalgia and and

spondylolisthesis makes me feel empowered and proud of all my achievements.

It is not often I blow my own trumpet, but this thread makes me want to do

so :-)

Hope everyone is relatively OK today. The UK actually has some sunshine

which makes it better than all the rain we have been having

Nina

Bristol, UK

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> Learning to love yourself is a tough thing, even for

> the perfect people. Accepting yourself, seeing your

> strengths, loving your body for all that it does

> instead of for what it doesn't do, that takes

> practice. As women with children, the fact that we

> have grown humans gives us quite an advantage in that

> arena. The amazing things our bodies have done make

> it easier for us to appreciate them.

>

>

>

>

> --- rocco0425@... wrote:

>

>> OK, that had me in tears. I feel the same exact way

>> that you have felt and

>> still I have issues with it, but I'm learning, now

>> that I have children, to

>> accept who I am and enjoy what I have. Thanks for

>> reminding me!!!!

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> removed]

>>

>>

>

>

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was found muttering these words:

Amen ! I have 14 year old identical twin boys, even though I have

spina bifida, diastematomyelia, and was wheelchair bound. Not only are

they perfectly healthy, they were state athletes -- runners :-) and on the

honor roll.

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>>> Learning to love yourself is a tough thing, even for

>>> the perfect people. Accepting yourself, seeing your

>>> strengths, loving your body for all that it does

>>> instead of for what it doesn't do, that takes

>>> practice. As women with children, the fact that we

>>> have grown humans gives us quite an advantage in that

>>> arena. The amazing things our bodies have done make

>>> it easier for us to appreciate them.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --- rocco0425@... wrote:

>>>

>>>> OK, that had me in tears. I feel the same exact way

>>>> that you have felt and

>>>> still I have issues with it, but I'm learning, now

>>>> that I have children, to

>>>> accept who I am and enjoy what I have. Thanks for

>>>> reminding me!!!!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>>>> removed]

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> __________________________________________________

>>>

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I believe she's saying that the purpose of cathing is to empty the bladder

so that there isn't enough urine in the bladder to go up into the kidneys.

Which could happen due to involuntary muscle spasms related to TCS. That

the muscle spasms are gonna happen whether you cath or not - it's just the

way we're wired (which is why stress incontinence occurs). Is that right?

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From: tetheredspinalcord

[mailto:tetheredspinalcord ] On Behalf Of rocco0425@...

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:28 PM

To: tetheredspinalcord

Subject: Reply to

In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tetheredspinalcord writes:

This is something I always thought too, but it's not the case. The nerves

to the muscle of the bladder cause it to spasm and then that can " squirt "

urine back up into the kidneys causing damage. That's why they want people

to

cath so often and so soon after discovering this.

Hi , my name is Kelli and I'm a Mother of two boys, aren't they

wonderful....Anyway, I was curious about your post....so you're saying that

from

cathing, you can damage the kidneys? I'm just wondering since I cath and I

have

never been told that and wondering if I need to watch out for or worry

about

it. Thanks, Kelli

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good info.!

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From: tetheredspinalcord

[mailto:tetheredspinalcord ] On Behalf Of laurav1945

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:03 PM

To: tetheredspinalcord

Subject: Re: Reply to

Hey gang,

Reflux to the kidneys can also be caused by damage to the sphincter

(muscles) where the ureter joins the bladder. This can be due to scar

tissue there, developed from repeated bladder infections. That was one

of the contributing factors to my reflux, and when I had surgery to

move that ureter to a better spot, it was hard to find unscarred areas

on that side of my bladder.

My bladder falls in the flaccid sort...and I probably would not have

had the reflux if I'd been cathing in my youth (but we didn't do that

in the dark ages <g>)to be able to empty.

Besides the " usual " types of incontinence (stress, overflow,

urge/overactive bladder) there is reflex incontinence and functional

incontinence.

Reflex incontinence is lacking the urge to urinate and the bladder

contracts involuntarily due to a neurological condition. Nerves are

damaged that prevent the free flow of information from the brain's

cortical micturition center and back to the bladder sensory and motor

nervous system. " Neurogenic bladder " and detrusor hyporeflexia fall

in this kind of incontinence.

Functional refers to the type of incontinence where you simply cannot

get to the bathroom. For example if you broke your hip you would not

be able to get to the bathroom and might be classified as incontinent.

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