RE: High PSA but no cancer?

July 30, 2006

The Dr should have first, put him on a course of heavy antibiotics for about 10 days. I think they usually use cipro. This is done to determine if the PSA is caused by prostatitis. If the PSA goes down everything is ok but if it does not, then the biopsy is in order. As far as the biopsy is concerned, the biopsy sampling device takes a very small amount of tissue and it is possible that it was missed. I have heard of men with disease having several biopsies that found nothing. There probably isn't a lot to be done until something is found. Dickbettymiller56 wrote: Hi everyone, My husband who never goes to the doctor finally went after 7 years and they did a PSA. It was 10.5. We were sent to a urologist who repeated the PSA and it came back at 10.1. My husband then had a DRE & biopsy. The urologist said the DRE he could feel no abnormalities, and the biopsy was normal, no cancer, and the ultrasound showed no enlargement. Told us to come back in 6 months for another PSA. He said he in in the minority of men with a high PSA yet no problem could be detected. Does this sound like the right protocol for this? My husband is 67 and shows no sign of BHP or anything. What good is the PSA? Thanks for any replies. Toby's wife

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July 30, 2006

I agree Dick. It could be very small no rush to treat cancer, infection or benign growth. First step should be antibiotics over quite a period of time. The infections are notoriously difficult to get at.

Re: High PSA but no cancer?

The Dr should have first, put him on a course of heavy antibiotics for about 10 days. I think they usually use cipro. This is done to determine if the PSA is caused by prostatitis. If the PSA goes down everything is ok but if it does not, then the biopsy is in order. As far as the biopsy is concerned, the biopsy sampling device takes a very small amount of tissue and it is possible that it was missed. I have heard of men with disease having several biopsies that found nothing. There probably isn't a lot to be done until something is found.Dickbettymiller56 <bettymiller56comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi everyone,My husband who never goes to the doctor finally went after 7 years and they did a PSA. It was 10.5. We w ere sent to a urologist who repeated the PSA and it came back at 10.1. My husband then had a DRE & biopsy. The urologist said the DRE he could feel no abnormalities, and the biopsy was normal, no cancer, and the ultrasound showed no enlargement. Told us to come back in 6 months for another PSA. He said he in in the minority of men with a high PSA yet no problem could be detected. Does this sound like the right protocol for this? My husband is 67 and shows no sign of BHP or anything. What good is the PSA? Thanks for any replies.Toby's wife

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July 30, 2006

I had one doctor describe to me what it warlike to do a prostate biopsy. He said that you have a walnut in a large haystack. You do you best to try to hit the walnut but sometimes you miss so it may take more than one biopsy. What is most important is possible change in PSA with is next checkup. Elevated PSA is an indicator of a problem.Since there is not an enlarged prostate, infection may be a reason for the rise. Did he abstain from sex for 48 hours prior to the PSA test? Does he ride bikes or do anything that may be massaging the prostate? These things may raise the PSA but usually not by a significant amount.

Now the important thing for him is repeat PSA testing and tracking the PSA slope. If it increases quickly then you have reason for concern. If it decreases, stays the same or goes up very slightly then he may just have a high baseline PSA.

Kathy

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Hi everyone,My husband who never goes to the doctor finally went after 7 years and they did a PSA. It was 10.5. We were sent to a urologist who repeated the PSA and it came back at 10.1. My husband then had a DRE & biopsy. The urologist said the DRE he could feel no abnormalities, and the biopsy was normal, no cancer, and the ultrasound showed no enlargement. Told us to come back in 6 months for another PSA. He said he in in the minority of men with a high PSA yet no problem could be detected. Does this sound like the right protocol for this? My husband is 67 and shows no sign of BHP or anything. What good is the PSA? Thanks for any replies.Toby's wife

July 30, 2006

Betty - When they did your husband's DRE did they check his prostate fluid for infection? Mick bettymiller56 wrote: Hi everyone, My husband who never goes to the doctor finally went after 7 years and they did a PSA. It was 10.5. We were sent to a urologist who repeated the PSA and it came back at 10.1. My husband then had a DRE & biopsy. The urologist said the DRE he could feel no

abnormalities, and the biopsy was normal, no cancer, and the ultrasound showed no enlargement. Told us to come back in 6 months for another PSA. He said he in in the minority of men with a high PSA yet no problem could be detected. Does this sound like the right protocol for this? My husband is 67 and shows no sign of BHP or anything. What good is the PSA? Thanks for any replies. Toby's wife God rewards those that keep on keeping on. Stay positive. Think positive. Pray positive. And talk positive.

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September 1, 2006

Is this really true riding bikes can raise your PSA level? If so, does anyone know the effects of prostate cancer and riding bikes? I'm scheduled for appointment 9-14-06 at M.D. for surgery consultation.

I dont know about riding bikes but if you have anal sex (I am sure some gay men are here), it definately can.

(And straight men can have anal sex also. Sorry for the non-inclusion)

September 1, 2006

Does bicycle riding increase my risk for prostate cancer?

Bicycle riding does not cause prostate cancer.

http://www.netwellness.org/healthtopics/prostate/box2.cfm

Rigorous physical activity affecting the prostate, such as bicycle

riding, may cause a temporary rise in PSA levels.

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/psa/test.html

The effect of bicycle riding on serum prostate specific antigen levels.

Crawford ED 3rd, Mackenzie SH, Safford HR, Capriola M

Department of Urology, Presbyterian St. Luke's Hospital, Denver, CO,

USA.

J Urol 1996 Jul;156(1):103-5

PURPOSE: We determined if bicycle riding causes an increase in prostate

specific antigen (PSA) levels.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: Baseline PSA levels were measured from all 260

volunteers before a 250-mile bicycle ride. After this 4-day race PSA

was again measured and this level was compared to the pre-race levels.

RESULTS: The overall change from baseline to post-race PSA in all 260

men was 0.069 ng./ml. The change for the 256 men with normal baseline

PSA (0.0 to 4.0 ng./ml.) was 0.044 ng./ml. The 4 men with an already

elevated PSA (more than 4.0 ng./ml.) showed a large change of 1.65

ng./ml.

CONCLUSIONS: There is no statistically or clinically significant

increase in PSA after bicycle riding. However, the few participants

with an initially elevated PSA had an increase after bicycle riding,

although this change does not represent the population and more

research is warranted to define further its clinical implications.

http://www.usrf.org/news/coloradobikers.html

Hope this answers your questions.

Kathy

> --- High PSA but no cancer?

>

> Hi everyone,

> My husband who never goes to the doctor finally went after 7 years and

> they did a PSA. It was 10.5. We were sent to a urologist who

> repeated the PSA and it came back at 10.1. My husband then had a DRE

> & biopsy. The urologist said the DRE he could feel no abnormalities,

> and the biopsy was normal, no cancer, and the ultrasound showed no

> enlargement. Told us to come back in 6 months for another PSA. He

> said he in in the minority of men with a high PSA yet no problem could

> be detected. Does this sound like the right protocol for this? My

> husband is 67 and shows no sign of BHP or anything. What good is the

> PSA? Thanks for any replies.

> Toby's wife

>

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September 1, 2006

I am just the opposite. I have cancer with low PSA.

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> Is this really true riding bikes can raise your PSA level? If so,

> does anyone know the effects of prostate cancer and riding bikes?

> I'm scheduled for appointment 9-14-06 at M.D. for surgery

> consultation.

>

> Kathy Meade wrote:

>

> I had one doctor describe to me what it warlike to do a prostate

> biopsy. He said that you have a walnut in a large haystack. You do

> you best to try to hit the walnut but sometimes you miss so it may

> take more than one biopsy. What is most important is possible

> change in PSA with is next checkup. Elevated PSA is an indicator of

> a problem.Since there is not an enlarged prostate, infection may be

> a reason for the rise. Did he abstain from sex for 48 hours prior

> to the PSA test? Does he ride bikes or do anything that may be

> massaging the prostate? These things may raise the PSA but usually

> not by a significant amount.

>

> Now the important thing for him is repeat PSA testing and tracking

> the PSA slope. If it increases quickly then you have reason for

> concern. If it decreases, stays the same or goes up very slightly

> then he may just have a high baseline PSA.

>

> Kathy

> High PSA but no cancer?