Re: Question about Pain med & PT

[Guest guest]

I'm one of those folks who like to simplify things.  What works and what

doesn't work.  If it doesn't work...then it's no good.  If it works...then

that's good.

 

It's pretty much what I'd tell a doc.  I'm not about to go the rest of my life

in pain and spasms....and the pain meds are essential for that.  I cannot

control the spasms or the blood pressure or heart rhythm without them.  If my

body is going to pay the price without them...then I opt for them. 

 

If a doc wants to do without them and it doesn't work then I won't go for it. 

Period.  Anyway...I've already tried everything so I can safely tell a doc I've

been there-done that and am not willing to " experiment " again.

 

Pain patients bill of rights...which include your right to refuse certain

treatments

 

http://www.paincare.org/pain_management/advocacy/ca_bill.html

 

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/articles/552/pain-patient-bill-of-rights

 

" (h) A patient suffering from severe  chronic intractable pain has the option

to request or reject the use of any or all modalities to relieve his or her

severe chronic intractable pain. "

 

Read it all.  It's California...but I think it applies elsewhere.  You'd have

to check it but your right to refuse the alternate treatment is within your

power.  You may end up with another doc...but you do have some rights.

 

The very long and short is you have a right to treatment that will actually

work.  If you try this and it doesn't....you take it from there. 

 

Anyway...he should have a list of pain docs and refer you if you don't wish to

go thru with this. 

 

I prefer my own family practice doc over the pain doc I've seen.  My family doc

listens to me and the pain doctor didn't.  That simple.  My family doc trusts

me to be accurate about my pain and take me seriously.

 

He's allowed me to be part of my pain management and make suggestions that we've

used and that have worked.  Above all what matters to me most is my being

involved and my personal knowledge of my pain being taken seriously and acted on

if my request is reasonalble.

 

I hope you guys can work it out.  I don't know if you tried that treatment

yet...but if it is not helping...you should be able to give it a shot without

being pulled off the med.  If it doesn't help tell him no way. 

 

I don't think we're allowed to mention doctors names in these groups...mostly

it's not allowed for reasons that reasonable.  Someone may use that list to try

to seek drugs.  I dunno. 

 

http://www.painfoundation.org/ResourceLocator.asp

 

http://www.doctorsforpain.com/

 

http://honolulu.citysearch.com/profile/3231612/honolulu_hi/pain_management_clini\

c_hawaii.html

 

The American Pain Foundation has a locator you may want to look at.  There are

other locators as well. 

 

Good luck.  I would have had a fit in your position.  I can't go thru that

again. 

 

 

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Subject: Question about Pain med & PT

To: hugs-n-pain

Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:55 PM

 

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.. His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

[Guest guest]

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money. My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide. I would definately try a different MD. There are good one out

there. Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.. His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about your Doctor. It does not sound like he is trying to get

rid of you, it just sounds like he is trying to get rid of the responsibility of

prescribing narcotics. I would definately seek another pain specialist who is

sensitive to your needs. If you do that however, I would recommend that you

write a letter of divorce to your doctor and inform him of your decision and the

fact that you feel he did not respond adequately to your pain. This establishes

your honesty and intent in this particular situation. THe thing they are all

afraid of is " Doctor Shopping " for pain pills. Actually, I used to take the

Norco 10/325 you are talking about. After a while it is just too damn much

tylenol every day. I have had superb results switching to just a pain medicine

only and using a Tylenol only for break through spikes. It works better that

way. I hope you get the result you need.

> To: Hugs-N-Pain

> From: awilgus@...

> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:44:03 +0000

> Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

>

> ,

>

> I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money. My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide. I would definately try a different MD. There are good one out there.

Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

>

> It's not right to discount someone's pain.

>

> Take care,

>

> Alanna

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

> Question about Pain med & PT

>

>

>

>

>

> Aloha Folks,

>

> I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

>

>

>

> He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since

Feb. It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain

med just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

>

>

>

> Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

>

>

>

> Then I called back but to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him..

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

>

>

>

> My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

>

>

>

> Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

>

>

>

> Thanks and hugs,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alanna,

I will NOT put up with any more lip service from Drs. If they were in pain you

know they wouldn't put up with it. I'm glad you finally found someone to help

you. You're such a nice person.

 

I'm going to give my current Dr. one more try and if things just don't work out

it's BYE, BYE.

 

Gentle Hugs,

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

Thank you . Why do you think he is trying to get out of RXing for me? What

reason?

Subject: RE: Question about Pain med & PT

To: hugs-n-pain

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 7:01 AM

I am sorry to hear about your Doctor. It does not sound like he is trying to get

rid of you, it just sounds like he is trying to get rid of the responsibility of

prescribing narcotics. I would definately seek another pain specialist who is

sensitive to your needs. If you do that however, I would recommend that you

write a letter of divorce to your doctor and inform him of your decision and the

fact that you feel he did not respond adequately to your pain. This establishes

your honesty and intent in this particular situation. THe thing they are all

afraid of is " Doctor Shopping " for pain pills. Actually, I used to take the

Norco 10/325 you are talking about.  After a while it is just too damn much

tylenol every day. I have had superb results switching to just a pain medicine

only and using a Tylenol only for break through spikes.  It works better that

way. I hope you get the result you need. 

> To: Hugs-N-Pain

> From: awilgus@...

> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:44:03 +0000

> Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

>

> ,

>

> I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money. My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide. I would definately try a different MD. There are good one out there.

Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

>

> It's not right to discount someone's pain.

>

> Take care,

>

> Alanna

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

> Question about Pain med & PT

>

>

>

>

>

> Aloha Folks,

>

> I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

>

> 

>

> He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since

Feb. It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain

med just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

>

> 

>

> Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

>

> 

>

> Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him..

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

>

> 

>

> My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients..

Sometimes I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain

management Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

>

> 

>

> Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

>

> 

>

> Thanks and hugs,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you 100%!!!!! NO FOOLING AROUND when it comes to pain and comfort.

Subject: Question about Pain med & PT

To: hugs-n-pain

Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:55 PM

 

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.. His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

[Guest guest]

What I don't get is why this doc doesn't try it while she's on the meds.  These

drugs do not get rid of all the pain by a long shot.  They only make it

possible to carry one without contemplating suicide.  (With the spasm from

hell...I really wondered how many I had left in me...and I'm not suicidal at

all...it's just plain too damn much pain.)....

 

So...if this treatment would work, she should be able to tell while on the

meds. 

 

I wonder if he gets her down off the meds he will just leave it that way.  He

doesn't want to just throw her into withdrawal...titrating her down would get

that part off of his back and I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a

doughnut that he will not let her get tolerant again...in other words.....no

more opiates.. 

 

He should try it while she's on the meds.  I'm kinda suspicious....so take me

with a grain of salt.

 

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visible soul.â€

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From: Kurek <dkndehotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Question about Pain med & PT

To: hugs-n-pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 7:01 AM

I am sorry to hear about your Doctor. It does not sound like he is trying to get

rid of you, it just sounds like he is trying to get rid of the responsibility of

prescribing narcotics. I would definately seek another pain specialist who is

sensitive to your needs. If you do that however, I would recommend that you

write a letter of divorce to your doctor and inform him of your decision and the

fact that you feel he did not respond adequately to your pain. This establishes

your honesty and intent in this particular situation. THe thing they are all

afraid of is " Doctor Shopping " for pain pills. Actually, I used to take the

Norco 10/325 you are talking about.  After a while it is just too damn much

tylenol every day. I have had superb results switching to just a pain medicine

only and using a Tylenol only for break through spikes.  It works better that

way. I hope you get the result you need. 

> To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> From: awilgus@.... com

> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:44:03 +0000

> Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

>

> ,

>

> I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money. My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide. I would definately try a different MD. There are good one out there.

Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

>

> It's not right to discount someone's pain.

>

> Take care,

>

> Alanna

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

> Question about Pain med & PT

>

>

>

>

>

> Aloha Folks,

>

> I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

>

> 

>

> He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since

Feb. It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain

med just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

>

> 

>

> Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

>

> 

>

> Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him..

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

>

> 

>

> My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients..

Sometimes I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain

management Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

>

> 

>

> Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

>

> 

>

> Thanks and hugs,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tolerance...I think it varies some from person to person.  I do pretty well

with it.  The drugs have so little side effects on me. 

 

I used to titrate addicts down and it doesn't take long at all.  Several

days.  Depends on how high the dose you are used to.  Addicts tend to get way

up there but still it doesn't take too long....and they don't suffer any

withdrawal symptoms if done right.  The most was about a week. 

 

The treatement is where the hard part starts.  lol.  If they want it bad enuff

they will walk thru fire.  Once down you can start over.  To be truly off it

takes a longer time.  If you're an addict then they have to deal with

craving...if you're not then no craving.  The body takes  a little while to

completely be clean...two weeks to two months. 

 

I'm on the MsContin now and I don't know how long it would take...at this dose

not long..but I'm not going to raise the dose unless my body gets crazy again

like it did with the blood pressure n stuff.  That's pretty much my

parameters..how my body is taking the pain.  My doc and I would take it from

there..but I have a long way to go.  I'm on 30mg twice/day.  That's pretty low

so I have a ways to go.

 

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From: aloha.monica <aloha.monica@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Question about Pain med & PT

To: hugs-n-pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:55 PM

 

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.. His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays.

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

[Guest guest]

monica i hope you are doing good less pain good docs are hard to find donnie

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

Thank you Donnie!

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him....

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for your empathy. We have had T-storms for 3 days now and the pain is

unbearable.

Let me know what you decide to do with your doctor. God doesn't close one door

w/o opening another!

Have a good night.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

,

You go girl! Really all a doctor has is your word as to how bad your pain is.

Any doctor who understands pain will give you the benefit of the doubt. They do

need to be on guard for people who are trying to abuse the system. I've dealt

with plenty of drug seekers over the years and they are easy to spot. But if

you are not giving him reason to not trust you (losing pills, missing

appointments, not running prescriptions through insurance, etc.), then he needs

to listen to you. So go ahead and stand up for yourself- you are a good person!

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

It is always so sad that there are people out their who run from Dr. to Dr.

getting medications so that they could either get high or they could sell the

meds.  So the poor doctors have a really hard time prescribing more drugs when

they can't " see " anything that could be causing that much pain.  You are doing

the best thing possiblt though.

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

I can't remember if I wrote to the group about this or not. My last appt. with

my Neurologist he was going to start weening me off the Narco. Then I told him I

had afast pulse around100. He said PT alone could take care of my pain. iI was

in SHOCK! I told him it would help but not take care of ALL my pain. He said

we'll cross that bridge when we get there. If it weren't for my racing pulse he

wasn;t going to give me more pain med. I have NEVER given him any reason to

doubt my pain.

 

I have NEVER asked for pain med. before my next appt. I have no idea what

running Insurance is. Also NEVER missed an appt. in 6 months.

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him....

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

It seems they can work out something so we can prove we don't do that.  Some

way to identify ourselves and have the pharmacies connected so they can catch

the people who do that.

 

It really takes time to build up trust with your doctor and develope a good

relationship so your doctor knows you are on his side as well as your own. 

That you would protect him by not doing those things and that you understand his

dilemma as well..   My doctor and I talked about it.  He also said the DEA is

behind a lot of the difficulty with us getting treatment. 

 

So we need to work on them as well and keep up a strong code of conduct among

painers.  That we never get another script from another doctor without him

knowing...and everyone is on the same page.  I had to do that with dental

surgery and the Urgent Care.  The Urgent Care diagnosed my undertreatment and

was aware of the meds I was on...so there was no sneaky sneaky.  Then my doctor

knew everything within two days...when we went to MsContin. 

 

Our docs need to know we follow a code of conduct and understand what they are

under.  Something like that.

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From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him...

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

hi monica it sounds like your doc is going to take you off your pain meds if you

want to stay on them you are going to need another doc for long term pain meds

the docs like you to go to see a pain doc so nask if you can be referd to pain

management so you have to stay ahead of your doc donnie

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him....

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

hi lesley there is a young man that lives by my brother is doc shoping he has 2

or 3 scripts a week and all he has is a little swelling on hers arm it is a

shame he go,s to all the docs he can find he sead he is going to milk it as long

as he can and he is getting some good pills from what my brother is telling me i

wish this was not going on i hope he gets busted that makes it so hard on us

people like hem donnie

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

hi lesley there is a young man that lives by my brother is doc shoping he has 2

or 3 scripts a week and all he has is a little swelling on hers arm it is a

shame he go,s to all the docs he can find he sead he is going to milk it as long

as he can and he is getting some good pills from what my brother is telling me i

wish this was not going on i hope he gets busted that makes it so hard on us

people like hem donnie

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

I know Donnie and it pisses me off big time! My VERY first visit with him he

said " If you have to stay on pain meds that it wouldn't be a problem " . Now he's

changing his tune and it's making me a nervous wreck. If I see him again I will

remind him what he said.

 

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.....

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

hi monica i hope you get things worked out with hem i have never had a problem

with my pain pills not being able to get them i went to my knee doc apt. and

thay sead he was not there nomore and i tryed to see one of the other knee docs

there and thay would not see me thay were afraed i would suew them none of them

there would see me thay showed me to the door i was lucky i had 3 refills of 180

loraset 10s left on my script he would give me 6 fefills at a time i thout i was

getting better and it was the pain pills getting better that doc had so menny

lawsuet ageanst hem my leg was so mest up i sean 3 knee docs and a neuraalagest

and thay all sead go home and live with it you cannot be fixed thay neaw what

was rong with me thay neaw i had rsd but didnot know how to treat me thay shiped

me off to pain management that is were i have been eversence that has been 5

years how monica that is the story of my leg it is a mess donnie

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him.....

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

Lesley,

It is sad that a few people trying to be " entrepreneurs " have to ruin it for

people who legitimately need pain medications. As long as a doctor tries to be

prudent when prescribing narcotics, the DEA would never go after them. That is

a paranoid cop out that a lot of doctors use.

Hope you have a good night.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Question about Pain med & PT

It is always so sad that there are people out their who run from Dr. to Dr.

getting medications so that they could either get high or they could sell the

meds.  So the poor doctors have a really hard time prescribing more drugs when

they can't " see " anything that could be causing that much pain.  You are doing

the best thing possiblt though.

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

Lesley,

Is there a way you could anonymously turn this guy in? I know everyone hates to

get involved, but people shouldn't be able to get away with stuff like that. It

just makes it bad for the rest of us. Just a thought.

Hugs,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name.. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

My brother had a neighbor like him. Another neigher was taping his daughter on a

camcorder - got the guy carrying bundles of shingles up a ladder. Needless, to

say he was arrested on federal fraud lol

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name.. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

Do you know the doctors he is seeing?  I little note written to them about this

guy wouldn't hurt.  These guys hurt the docs as well as us.  I mean...has this

guy actually admitted to doing this?  I'm trying to see how I'd act in the same

situation.  Maybe I'd talk to my pharamacist to see what means of control they

have in situations like this or where you report this behavior if you're sure

this is what is happening.

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visible soul.â€

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From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him...

His AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,

     

[Guest guest]

yah I guess I could break out the camcorder next time he is doing something he

isn't supposed to do.  I did something similar when he chained up a toy poodle

mixed dog in his backyard with no shelter, frozen water, sub zero temps, and

severe mats in it's fur.  I never actually thought about videotaping him...that

is a really good idea!!!!!!  Thanx!!!!!!!!!!!!

________________________________

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:02:21 AM

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

 

My brother had a neighbor like him. Another neigher was taping his daughter on a

camcorder - got the guy carrying bundles of shingles up a ladder. Needless, to

say he was arrested on federal fraud lol

From: Alanna Wilgus <awilgus@.... com>

Subject: Re: Question about Pain med & PT

To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:44 AM

,

I had 2 pain docs like that - just in it for the money.  My current pain doctor

would never suggest that I not take the meds - that's the only thing between me

a suicide.  I would definately try a different MD.  There are good one out

there.  Say a prayer and God will guide you in your search.

It's not right to discount someone's pain.

Take care,

Alanna

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Question about Pain med & PT

Aloha Folks,

I am REALLY upset with my Neurologist. I hope some of you can calm me down and

give advice,

 

He wants to start weening me off the Narco 10-325, I have been on it since Feb.

It's still working pretty good. BUT he does NOT want me on any kind of pain med

just send me to PT. I have told him I am non-functional without pain med.

 

Things got heated and I cancelled my next appt. with him which was to do more

nerve conducting.

 

Then I called back but  to re-appoint and try to talk some sense into him... His

AD says he specializes in chronic pain. His office was closed and I left a

message saying I would like to come back. They are closed on Fridays..

 

My question is does this sound like he's trying to get rid of me by pissing me

off? Should I seek a new person who REALLY cares about their patients. Sometimes

I feelh e's only doing this for money. Tell me what a typical pain management

Dr. is like. More aggressive in treating pain and caring I hope?

 

Please feel free to offer Drs. name.. I would REALKLY appreciate it.

 

Thanks and hugs,