Re: New to the list..Intro..

December 14, 2006

Hey Karla, welcome to the group. I am Jena, 45.

I have 2 fractured vertebrae's and 2 ruptured disc.

I am sorry you have been having so much pain and trouble with your Dr's. My Pain

Management Dr had to learn to test me. It is sad but there are so many out

there that does abuse meds that it makes to rough on the rest of us. I can't

believe yours didn't at least try and help you to begin with some kind of meds.

Sure hope you appt tomorrow is more successful.

Jena

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New to the list..Intro..

Good evening,

My name is Karla.. I am 44 and I live in Washington state with my husband of

23 years and our 18 year old son and several fur kids;-) Like many I suffer

from daily pain and have for several years. My Dr was giving me some

percocet for 3 months then quit letting me have it. I was only being given

28 pills a month and only took them when it was unbearable. He said he did

not like giving those kinds of meds out. Phooey!! He took xrays of my back

and found degenerative join disease, still denied me pain meds. I cannot

take ibuprofen so he tried some other stuff, an anti-inflammatory.. Well I

had no inflammation so those did not work, just burned my gut!

I also have fibromyalgia and so I got a referral to go see a rheumatologist.

He was understanding but wanted me to see a pain specialist.. So I did that

the pain Dr said no pain meds and wanted me to see a psychiatrist that

specializes in chronic pain, and also for me to go to PT... I never did

either.. I refuse PT because I don't think it is right to make me hurt doing

this (and it does, BTDT) and have nothing for pain afterwards. And I have a

real problem with seeing a phsyc for PAIN! That makes absolutely no sense to

me!

So I have seen 3 drs for this and all 3 refuse to give me pain meds. I am

with an HMO so they ALL have computer access to my records, there is no way

to abuse these meds! And I have never had a problem with addiction to

anything except smoking.. I also saw another Dr before getting hooked up

with the HMO (group health) and he was another one of those drs who don't

believe in pain treatment meds.

I do not understand how these drs who are supposed to help people, will

instead allow people to suffer!! I have the back pain, I also have it in my

hips and my shoulders. Right now I am having serious shoulder pain. The pain

is in the front part at the joint. It hurts to even touch, it was so bad

yesterday and last night I was in tears. I have a high tolerance for pain

and this went beyond my tolerance. It is a bit better now but I did make a

drs appt tomorrow.. However, I feel like, why bother, they aren't going to

help me. Just help themselves to my money. I don't know what else to do to

get someone to HELP ME!

Anyhow, that is what is going on with me pretty much in a nut shell... Also

I am on disability but went on that about 11 years ago for Bipolar..Trust me

when I say it is a joke how much they give me a month and then they take out

86.00 off the top for medicare, and then I have to pay 130.00 a month for

the supplemental insurance at group health. Plus pay for my meds. Thank god

my husband works and makes decent money...

Thanks for listening,

Karla

December 15, 2006

Here's some sites you may find interesting as they are

advocate for the treatment of chronic pain. There is

a pain crisis in this country due to the attitude of

some of these doctors. It's not uncommon.

http://www.painfoundation.org/

http://www.ampainsoc.org/

http://www.aapainmanage.org/

http://www.aapainmanage.org/info/Patients.php

http://www.painlaw.org/opioids.html

We have a right to pain management with whatever it

takes. They are so afraid of addiction or just don't

want to deal with the fear of DEA doing audits. Half

of them don't even know the difference between

addiction and tolerance. Very few painers get

addicted. But these sites work toward better pain

management and it may give you some pointers on how to

proceed...plus they have resources for pain treatment.

Just have to get that attitude of " I'm mad as hell and

I'm not going to take it anymore " . I still have a

letter from my state rep acknowledging the pain

epidemic. I wrote to him to support one of the pain

bills. Now he's our Gov....gonna hang on to the

letter in case I need it sometime. Dunno.

Anyway..check out this kind of stuff and get involved

and see what your rights are all about. There's many

sites that help you find a compassionate doc.

Without opiate treatment I'd be up a creek real quick

and in a hurry cause of the action on nightmare

spasms. If I move and have to explain that to a doc

who doesn't know me....guess what he is gonna think.

Do not quit. There are pain advocates.

*¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

~StrykerMom~

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--- KC wrote:

> Good evening,

> My name is Karla.. I am 44 and I live in Washington

> state with my husband of

> 23 years and our 18 year old son and several fur

> kids;-) Like many I suffer

> from daily pain and have for several years. My Dr

> was giving me some

> percocet for 3 months then quit letting me have it.

> I was only being given

> 28 pills a month and only took them when it was

> unbearable. He said he did

> not like giving those kinds of meds out. Phooey!! He

> took xrays of my back

> and found degenerative join disease, still denied me

> pain meds. I cannot

> take ibuprofen so he tried some other stuff, an

> anti-inflammatory.. Well I

> had no inflammation so those did not work, just

> burned my gut!

>

> I also have fibromyalgia and so I got a referral to

> go see a rheumatologist.

> He was understanding but wanted me to see a pain

> specialist.. So I did that

> the pain Dr said no pain meds and wanted me to see

> a psychiatrist that

> specializes in chronic pain, and also for me to go

> to PT... I never did

> either.. I refuse PT because I don't think it is

> right to make me hurt doing

> this (and it does, BTDT) and have nothing for pain

> afterwards. And I have a

> real problem with seeing a phsyc for PAIN! That

> makes absolutely no sense to

> me!

>

> So I have seen 3 drs for this and all 3 refuse to

> give me pain meds. I am

> with an HMO so they ALL have computer access to my

> records, there is no way

> to abuse these meds! And I have never had a problem

> with addiction to

> anything except smoking.. I also saw another Dr

> before getting hooked up

> with the HMO (group health) and he was another one

> of those drs who don't

> believe in pain treatment meds.

>

> I do not understand how these drs who are supposed

> to help people, will

> instead allow people to suffer!! I have the back

> pain, I also have it in my

> hips and my shoulders. Right now I am having serious

> shoulder pain. The pain

> is in the front part at the joint. It hurts to even

> touch, it was so bad

> yesterday and last night I was in tears. I have a

> high tolerance for pain

> and this went beyond my tolerance. It is a bit

> better now but I did make a

> drs appt tomorrow.. However, I feel like, why

> bother, they aren't going to

> help me. Just help themselves to my money. I don't

> know what else to do to

> get someone to HELP ME!

>

> Anyhow, that is what is going on with me pretty much

> in a nut shell... Also

> I am on disability but went on that about 11 years

> ago for Bipolar..Trust me

> when I say it is a joke how much they give me a

> month and then they take out

> 86.00 off the top for medicare, and then I have to

> pay 130.00 a month for

> the supplemental insurance at group health. Plus pay

> for my meds. Thank god

> my husband works and makes decent money...

> Thanks for listening,

> Karla

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

Lotacats >^.^<

http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/549000

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December 17, 2006

When I went to see the pain specialist he said my Dr had ordered a CT scan..

But my Dr seemed to have forgotten to mention it to me..Pain doc said no use

in doing it since we already know I have it from the xrays.. I thought that

was kind of odd. Wouldn't it make sense to check everything since I have so

much pain in other joints?

My reg Dr is retiring and so now I have to pick another Dr from the clinic

or one of the other clinics.. Which is fine with me.. I had to go in for the

shoulder pain on Friday and had to see a fill in Dr.. He was nice and all

but was pushing NSAIDS on me, I know I am not supposed to taking them while

on lithium.. So he gave me one that they say doesn't interfere.. Well I get

home and look it up and sure enough it says it can cause lithium toxicity!

So I guess they would rather give me something that could make me deathly

ill or kill me rather than a pain med.. That totally makes sense doesn't it.

HA

However, I think it is actually helping, not a lot but I am not in as pain

as I was. The arthritis Dr did put me on Gabapentin and it did absolutely

nothing for me...I am very angry and frustrated with drs right now.

Thanks:-)

Karla

December 17, 2006

Hi Jena,

Dr actually did put me on an anti inflammatory and the other put me on

Gabapentin, neither did a thing for me, except cost me money..lol..The thing

is, I am not supposed to be taking anti-inflammatory's because I take

lithium.. But they insist on giving them to me anyhow.. I don't get it..

Thanks for the welcome.. I would of answered sooner but we had no power for

a couple of days due to the awful storm we had here in WA state...

Karla

-------Original Message-------

Hey Karla, welcome to the group. I am Jena, 45.

I have 2 fractured vertebrae's and 2 ruptured disc.

I am sorry you have been having so much pain and trouble with your Dr's. My

Pain Management Dr had to learn to test me. It is sad but there are so many

out there that does abuse meds that it makes to rough on the rest of us. I

can't believe yours didn't at least try and help you to begin with some kind

of meds. Sure hope you appt tomorrow is more successful.

Jena

December 17, 2006

Thank you VERY much for these links!! I am with you, I AM mad and I am not

taking it anymore;-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Karla

December 17, 2006

I made a typo in my earlier message. I meant to say my PM Dr. has learned to

" trust " me.

Jena

~:~Jena~:~

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My E-mail

Re: New to the list..Intro..

Hi Jena,

Dr actually did put me on an anti inflammatory and the other put me on

Gabapentin, neither did a thing for me, except cost me money..lol..The thing

is, I am not supposed to be taking anti-inflammatory's because I take

lithium.. But they insist on giving them to me anyhow.. I don't get it..

Thanks for the welcome.. I would of answered sooner but we had no power for

a couple of days due to the awful storm we had here in WA state...

Karla

-------Original Message-------

Hey Karla, welcome to the group. I am Jena, 45.

I have 2 fractured vertebrae's and 2 ruptured disc.

I am sorry you have been having so much pain and trouble with your Dr's. My

Pain Management Dr had to learn to test me. It is sad but there are so many

out there that does abuse meds that it makes to rough on the rest of us. I

can't believe yours didn't at least try and help you to begin with some kind

of meds. Sure hope you appt tomorrow is more successful.

Jena

December 17, 2006

It is very easy to get to that point with Dr's. Esp. when you are in such pain.

My parents go to the biggest quack around here and he makes me sooo mad. But

they will not change even though I blame him partly for my brothers death.

would go to him with his diabetes and his ankles were huge they just hung over

his shoes they were so swollen and this Dr never noticed it. Until went

with what he thought was a kidney infection. And he had so much protein it was

unreal. By this time, he had 19% kidney function. But my parents do not see it

that way.

Anyways I will get off my soapbox about that.

There are some good Pain Management Dr's out there. You just got to look til you

find a good one.