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Trudy,

Can you give me information how you got to use a Medical Doctor

over the Internet? Is it possible that this doctor has referrals

to

physicians in other areas? Like mine? I would be interested

in

any information you can provide.

Thank you, Liz D

Re: Enemas

Hi everyone!

I have posted a few times here previously, but have been mainly

lurking. But, since we are talking enemas, I thought I would

come out

of the wood work! ;-) LOL

I wanted to mention one thing to you that my ND told me about coffee

enemas. She told me to be sure to use reverse osmosis water with

warm

*organic* coffee. She told me to be sure to use organic

coffee

because of all the chemicals in regular coffee. ...just thought

I

would pass that along.

I have the so-called " Chronic Fatigue Syndrome " / Fibromyalgia and

have been working with a medical doctor over the

Internet. (...tells

you about our local doctor situation! ;-) Anyway, my net

doctor

wanted me to start with Nystatin, because I have been sick for so

long

(over 10 years, now). She told me that the Candida would be

so

entrenched in my bowels that the herbals would not work. (I had

tried

homeopathics, herbals and Chinese medicine previously with no

improvement; however, within the first week on Nystatin I had a

noticeable improvement--not only to me, but to others as well.)

Before starting the Nystatin, she wanted me to drink psyllium husk

and

bentonite clay for three days. I was also to drink senna

tea. I was

to then follow this regimen with a coffee enema at the end of the

three day period.

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Gubisara,

I was thinking of just drinking 4oz. or a 1/4 cup of freshly sqeezed lemon

juice in a glass for a few days. Then 2 a day for a few days. Then 3 or 4 a

day for a few days. Keep increasing like that. With all the things wrong

with my girlfriend, we've always had to do things that way.

Your body will tell you if something is wrong, & starting this slow won't

hurt you I believe. We've only done 1 - 2 a day so far & have had no bad

effects. I guess that's kind of been the way we've done everything. Not

doing all they tell you to do with any protocol, just doing what seems to

work for you, but trying to cover as many bases as possible. We include a

1/2 lemon in our juice drink. I like 1 orange, 1 apple, 2 kiwi's, 1/2 a

lemon, & 7 strawberries. Yummy! Hope that helps.

Take Care,

Gaylen

>From: " gubisara " <gubisara@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Trudy

>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:39:32 +0200

>

>Hi Gaylen,

>

>Many thanks for that very interesting info and site.

>In the site it is clearly states that one should not attempt to use this

>protocol without supervision.

>When you say " I would start out slow and build it up " , could you please

>elaborate more...

>Do you mean use it for 2-3 hours in succession or 2-3 hours spaced out

>during the day?

>Or does it make a difference at all?

>

>

> [ ] Trudy

>

>

> > I was reading the Dr. Reams protocol for disease & saw the section on

> > Liver-regeneration protocol & thought about you. It's easy & safe & my

> > girlfriend has been doing it some too. All it is, is drinking lemon

>juice

> &

> > distilled water. http://www.newtreatments.org/reams Just thought it

>might

> > help.

> > The liver regeneration protocol is quite simple. Feed it the only

>anionic

> > food available on this planet: The lemon. Use a neutral non-anionic,

> > non-cationic liquid as a medium: Distilled water fits in perfectly. The

> > protocol is as follows: Make fresh lemon juice and add 9 parts of

>distilled

> > water to the 1 part of juice, i.e. 4 ounces vs 36 ounces distilled

>water.

> > Four ounces of the lemon-water solution each hour and Four ounces of

>plain

> > distilled water take on the half hour.

> >

> > Example: 9:00 4 ounces of lemon-water solution, 9:30 4 ounces distilled

> > water, 10:00 lemon-water, 10:30 distilled water, 11:00 lemon-water,

>11:30

> > distilled water, etcetera.

> >

> > I would start out slow & build it up ;-)

> > Take Care,

> > Gaylen

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Gubisara,

I was thinking of just drinking 4oz. or a 1/4 cup of freshly sqeezed lemon

juice in a glass for a few days. Then 2 a day for a few days. Then 3 or 4 a

day for a few days. Keep increasing like that. With all the things wrong

with my girlfriend, we've always had to do things that way.

Your body will tell you if something is wrong, & starting this slow won't

hurt you I believe. We've only done 1 - 2 a day so far & have had no bad

effects. I guess that's kind of been the way we've done everything. Not

doing all they tell you to do with any protocol, just doing what seems to

work for you, but trying to cover as many bases as possible. We include a

1/2 lemon in our juice drink. I like 1 orange, 1 apple, 2 kiwi's, 1/2 a

lemon, & 7 strawberries. Yummy! Hope that helps.

Take Care,

Gaylen

>From: " gubisara " <gubisara@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Trudy

>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:39:32 +0200

>

>Hi Gaylen,

>

>Many thanks for that very interesting info and site.

>In the site it is clearly states that one should not attempt to use this

>protocol without supervision.

>When you say " I would start out slow and build it up " , could you please

>elaborate more...

>Do you mean use it for 2-3 hours in succession or 2-3 hours spaced out

>during the day?

>Or does it make a difference at all?

>

>

> [ ] Trudy

>

>

> > I was reading the Dr. Reams protocol for disease & saw the section on

> > Liver-regeneration protocol & thought about you. It's easy & safe & my

> > girlfriend has been doing it some too. All it is, is drinking lemon

>juice

> &

> > distilled water. http://www.newtreatments.org/reams Just thought it

>might

> > help.

> > The liver regeneration protocol is quite simple. Feed it the only

>anionic

> > food available on this planet: The lemon. Use a neutral non-anionic,

> > non-cationic liquid as a medium: Distilled water fits in perfectly. The

> > protocol is as follows: Make fresh lemon juice and add 9 parts of

>distilled

> > water to the 1 part of juice, i.e. 4 ounces vs 36 ounces distilled

>water.

> > Four ounces of the lemon-water solution each hour and Four ounces of

>plain

> > distilled water take on the half hour.

> >

> > Example: 9:00 4 ounces of lemon-water solution, 9:30 4 ounces distilled

> > water, 10:00 lemon-water, 10:30 distilled water, 11:00 lemon-water,

>11:30

> > distilled water, etcetera.

> >

> > I would start out slow & build it up ;-)

> > Take Care,

> > Gaylen

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Gaylen,

So happy to hear the good news. IT IS OUTSTANDING!!!

Thanx for your reply.

By the way, from time to time I have been doing a slow liver cleanse that

includes 1 organic lemon rind and all +1.5 tbp extra virgin olive oil and

1/2 cup mineral water. I put it all in the blender for about a minute,

strain it all and drinks first thing in the morning. I find it very useful.

Regards,

Gubi

[ ] Trudy

> >

> >

> > > I was reading the Dr. Reams protocol for disease & saw the section on

> > > Liver-regeneration protocol & thought about you. It's easy & safe & my

> > > girlfriend has been doing it some too. All it is, is drinking lemon

> >juice

> > &

> > > distilled water. http://www.newtreatments.org/reams Just thought it

> >might

> > > help.

> > > The liver regeneration protocol is quite simple. Feed it the only

> >anionic

> > > food available on this planet: The lemon. Use a neutral non-anionic,

> > > non-cationic liquid as a medium: Distilled water fits in perfectly.

The

> > > protocol is as follows: Make fresh lemon juice and add 9 parts of

> >distilled

> > > water to the 1 part of juice, i.e. 4 ounces vs 36 ounces distilled

> >water.

> > > Four ounces of the lemon-water solution each hour and Four ounces of

> >plain

> > > distilled water take on the half hour.

> > >

> > > Example: 9:00 4 ounces of lemon-water solution, 9:30 4 ounces

distilled

> > > water, 10:00 lemon-water, 10:30 distilled water, 11:00 lemon-water,

> >11:30

> > > distilled water, etcetera.

> > >

> > > I would start out slow & build it up ;-)

> > > Take Care,

> > > Gaylen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

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I hope things improve for you soon, Trudy. We're here if you want to talk

about it.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] Newly Diagnosed with RA

Carissa,

Hello and welcome to our group. I was diagnosed when i was 12, I am now 36.

I understand the depression. I am going through a real rough time too.

Everyone in the group understands what you are going through. You will be in

my Prayers

Trudy in ohio

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Hi Trudy, I don't know about anyone else but when I just not so long ago found out I had Hep C and then tried to wrap my brain around what a Geno type was and what grade I was and what kind of medicine chemotherapy I should have that was a lot of information already to try and stuff in my little brain along with the tons of info on how to do tx and shots and side effects and eating for liver health and tx. Boy it doesn't end. I finally got to where I tune out after awhile on some of it. If it doesn't get me caught up in reading it and catch my attention pretty quick I tend not to keep reading it. I may be horrible for doing that but I usually am doing that due to the fact half of it isn't making any sense to me. I work in the medical field and it still isn't making sense. lol. It seemed when I first met my sister in law when she first joined our family

every other day she was sending us emails about something new we should not eat touch, drink, smell, be around, see, everything was going to kill us. I look at it. Some of it is right but sometimes there is just way too much going on where we would just have to about be in a plastic bubble and have sterilized everything in order not to get anything bad in our bodies and then the plastic that bubble was made out of would probably poisin me. So yes you should take some of it serious but don't go over board to the point you are driving yourself nuts over it. you could really become obsessive compulsive over it. My sister in law did. It was wierd. She is still thinking everyone in her town is out to get her and they were all sent there just for that very purpose. Also they spy on her through her coo coo clock. So in moderation. Don't be afraid to live. Drink your water. Big hugs

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TrudyOh how I highly concur with on these matters!! Although I have weird sister-in-laws, don't think any of them except for perhaps the still practising drug addict think anyone is spying on them from a coo coo clock. LOL How appropriate is that LOLEspecially when it comes to articles about this disease!! Don does a fabulous job of finding and providing us all with great information and what I may find, doesn't catch my eye, does not mean by any stretch that it wouldn't catch somebody else's eye.As for all the other crap about what is and isn't good for us!!! Well, I go by what my body tells me. So far, it's said things like - I don't like red meat anymore, I don't really like coffee and must limit you to only one latte

about every 2 weeks at the most and things like that. Even when I get forgetful and actually buy spinach to run through the juicer, my mind finally says - idiot, you can not put anything in your system that is rich in iron!!!Gloria

Hi Trudy, I don't know about anyone else but when I just not so long ago found out I had Hep C and then tried to wrap my brain around what a Geno type was and what grade I was and what kind of medicine chemotherapy I should have that was a lot of information already to try and stuff in my little brain along with the tons of info on how to do tx and shots and side effects and eating for liver health and tx. Boy it doesn't end. I finally got to where I tune out after awhile on some of it. If it doesn't get me caught up in reading it and catch my attention pretty quick I tend not to keep reading it. I may be horrible for doing that but I usually am doing that due to the fact half of

it isn't making any sense to me. I work in the medical field and it still isn't making sense. lol. It seemed when I first met my sister in law when she first joined our family

every other day she was sending us emails about something new we should not eat touch, drink, smell, be around, see, everything was going to kill us. I look at it. Some of it is right but sometimes there is just way too much going on where we would just have to about be in a plastic bubble and have sterilized everything in order not to get anything bad in our bodies and then the plastic that bubble was made out of would probably poisin me. So yes you should take some of it serious but don't go over board to the point you are driving yourself nuts over it. you could really become obsessive compulsive over it. My sister in law did. It was wierd. She is still thinking everyone in her town is out to get her and they were all sent there just for that very purpose. Also they spy on her through her coo coo clock. So in moderation. Don't be afraid to live. Drink your water. Big hugs

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I do want to clear one thing up. I admire Don very highly especially for all the information and the ability to understand it and be able to explain it to us. That is worth so so so very much to us all. I was not putting him down for that at all. I sometimes have a hard time wrapping my mind around some of the informtion when I am tired or even sometimes when I am not but that is just me. Some of it I take right to and really understand and it helps greatly. At first though and this is the reason I was saying anything about it at all. I was saving every single email with information on it and trying to read absolutely everything plus work sometimes 50 plus hours a week and take care of a home and being so tired all the time. I felt like I was gonna miss something all the time. I wasn't sure what I needed to really pay attention to the most for me. Now I have

gotten to where I have relaxed more and can pick and choose and know which ones I need to check out for my situation. I Was scared at first oh if I don't understand all this information I will die. I did not die. I did not understand it all. I miss some of it sometimes I probably need but sooner or later I hear it from someone in the group. I learn a whole lot from Don and Pam and lots of others that are here and have been through fighting the dragon way longer. I admire all of you and thank you for taking the time to help us with all this information. Big hugs Cinder

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and TrudyI save these e-mails from the group, in a file through my "folders". Every so often, I go in and delete them. Actually, I should not be saving all those informational ones at all because, if I couldn't read them the first pass through - I know that Don has them on the groups files.LOL sometimes I think I should pay a lot more attention to that show Hoarders!!! Even on my computer I keep old stuff too long LOLGloria

I do want to clear one thing up. I admire Don very highly especially for all the information and the ability to understand it and be able to explain it to us. That is worth so so so very much to us all. I was not putting him down for that at all. I sometimes have a hard time wrapping my mind around some of the informtion when I am tired or even sometimes when I am not but that is just me. Some of it I take right to and really understand and it helps greatly. At first though and this is the reason I was saying anything about it at all. I was saving every single email with information on it and trying to read absolutely everything plus work sometimes 50 plus hours a week and take care

of a home and being so tired all the time. I felt like I was gonna miss something all the time. I wasn't sure what I needed to really pay attention to the most for me. Now I have

gotten to where I have relaxed more and can pick and choose and know which ones I need to check out for my situation. I Was scared at first oh if I don't understand all this information I will die. I did not die. I did not understand it all. I miss some of it sometimes I probably need but sooner or later I hear it from someone in the group. I learn a whole lot from Don and Pam and lots of others that are here and have been through fighting the dragon way longer. I admire all of you and thank you for taking the time to help us with all this information. Big hugs Cinder

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Hey Trudy be careful not to carry those lightening rods and get struck by lightening. Got to be able to enjoy this silver lining.lol. Cinder

PS Still laughing from your description of your little fishing trips.

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From: Teri Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>Subject: Re: [ ] What are the HCV Silver Linings? - Teri/Steve/all Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 8:42 PM

Ahhh Trudy, you found yours! And I promise there are more to come.. you just have to see past the tress in the forest. Your Aha moment will arrive and you will see the rest of it!

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Went fishing again tonite. Had Little Dude with us so we went to a tamer place on lake.. No storm , no lightening and, alas, no fish. But sure was a pretty sunset. Posted pics on Facebook... Friend me, all, if you haven't already Ps I too am writing a book; don't know yet what direction it will take... Writing it as a blog ,but will have it printed in book form if no WHEN it continues well. Right now I am needing to transfer post from another blog onto new one and, then, just run with it Hard to be consistant with poor Internet .. In a few days check it out on Word Press.com/oktravels http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history" http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Cinder <datagrey@...> wrote:

Hey Trudy be careful not to carry those lightening rods and get struck by lightening. Got to be able to enjoy this silver lining.lol. Cinder

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From: Teri Gottlieb <theresagottlieb >Subject: Re: [ ] What are the HCV Silver Linings? - Teri/Steve/all Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 8:42 PM

Ahhh Trudy, you found yours! And I promise there are more to come.. you just have to see past the tress in the forest. Your Aha moment will arrive and you will see the rest of it!

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