Re: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

[Guest guest]

My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other out--for example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic ineffective. MMS sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere with Doxy. Just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

Dea

To: Lyme_and_Rife From: malindabross@...Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:11 +0000Subject: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

Hi everyone,I want to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help. Having all you guysout there is such a blessing. I want to also thank the silent ones. I know thereare many who read the posts and put a lot of thought into a situation butbecause they are unsure of how to help or possibly someone else may have alreadyresponded in the same way they would have, they don't post. But just knowing youare there and willing to post if you feel you had some advice that was not beingshared means a lot to me.I feel an obligation to share with you all the treatment plan I have chosen.Those who have read my original post know when I posted the first time, I didnot have any sign of lyme, I just pulled a deer tick off of me. Since I am onewho encourages anyone in that situation to get on Doxy immediately, I surprisedeven myself by stalling. I have struggled with candida for many years and justin recent years have it under control. Going on abx unnecessarily is justsomething I really did not want to do.However, watching my son suffer many years from the horrendous effects of lyme,I knew I wanted avoid lyme way more than a candida flare-up. I decided to see myND that muscle-tested me on various natural supps. for lyme. I tested positivefor pretty many, which told us that the chance were great that I had indeedcontacted lyme. I decided to take the supps I tested for, but I also called myDr and got some Doxy. Here is a list of all that I am taking daily forfirst-stage lyme.Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3drop doses.Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)Iodine (topically)I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique.This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip itin the bud.The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I amfeeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but otherthan that all is good.God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

[Guest guest]

Oh dear, never thought of that. My son is one of the very few that was treated

with abx. immediately after removing the tick and still got chronic lyme. I just

thought I want to do all that I can. But maybe it is not a good thing. Now what?

=/

~ Malinda

>

>

> My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other out--for

example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic ineffective. MMS

sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere with Doxy. Just

wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> Dea

>

>

>

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> From: malindabross@...

> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:11 +0000

> Subject: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> I want to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help. Having all you guys

> out there is such a blessing. I want to also thank the silent ones. I know

there

> are many who read the posts and put a lot of thought into a situation but

> because they are unsure of how to help or possibly someone else may have

already

> responded in the same way they would have, they don't post. But just knowing

you

> are there and willing to post if you feel you had some advice that was not

being

> shared means a lot to me.

>

> I feel an obligation to share with you all the treatment plan I have chosen.

> Those who have read my original post know when I posted the first time, I did

> not have any sign of lyme, I just pulled a deer tick off of me. Since I am one

> who encourages anyone in that situation to get on Doxy immediately, I

surprised

> even myself by stalling. I have struggled with candida for many years and just

> in recent years have it under control. Going on abx unnecessarily is just

> something I really did not want to do.

>

> However, watching my son suffer many years from the horrendous effects of

lyme,

> I knew I wanted avoid lyme way more than a candida flare-up. I decided to see

my

> ND that muscle-tested me on various natural supps. for lyme. I tested positive

> for pretty many, which told us that the chance were great that I had indeed

> contacted lyme. I decided to take the supps I tested for, but I also called my

> Dr and got some Doxy. Here is a list of all that I am taking daily for

> first-stage lyme.

>

> Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

>

> MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3

> drop doses.

>

> Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

>

> Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

>

> Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

>

> Iodine (topically)

>

> I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique.

> This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip it

> in the bud.

>

> The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I am

> feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but other

> than that all is good.

>

> God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

>

[Guest guest]

Well you can at least start something...you can always add, right??

Dea

To: Lyme_and_Rife From: malindabross@...Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:43:11 +0000Subject: Re: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

Oh dear, never thought of that. My son is one of the very few that was treated with abx. immediately after removing the tick and still got chronic lyme. I just thought I want to do all that I can. But maybe it is not a good thing. Now what? =/~ Malinda>> > My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other out--for example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic ineffective. MMS sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere with Doxy. Just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.> Dea> > > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:11 +0000> Subject: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash> > > > > > > Hi everyone,> I want to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help. Having all you guys> out there is such a blessing. I want to also thank the silent ones. I know there> are many who read the posts and put a lot of thought into a situation but> because they are unsure of how to help or possibly someone else may have already> responded in the same way they would have, they don't post. But just knowing you> are there and willing to post if you feel you had some advice that was not being> shared means a lot to me.> > I feel an obligation to share with you all the treatment plan I have chosen.> Those who have read my original post know when I posted the first time, I did> not have any sign of lyme, I just pulled a deer tick off of me. Since I am one> who encourages anyone in that situation to get on Doxy immediately, I surprised> even myself by stalling. I have struggled with candida for many years and just> in recent years have it under control. Going on abx unnecessarily is just> something I really did not want to do.> > However, watching my son suffer many years from the horrendous effects of lyme,> I knew I wanted avoid lyme way more than a candida flare-up. I decided to see my> ND that muscle-tested me on various natural supps. for lyme. I tested positive> for pretty many, which told us that the chance were great that I had indeed> contacted lyme. I decided to take the supps I tested for, but I also called my> Dr and got some Doxy. Here is a list of all that I am taking daily for> first-stage lyme.> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a> 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3> drop doses.> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)> > Iodine (topically)> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique.> This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip it> in the bud.> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I am> feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but other> than that all is good.> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda>

[Guest guest]

I already started everything Fri night,except for the doxycylcine, which I just

started yesterday.

> >

> >

> > My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other

out--for example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic

ineffective. MMS sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere

with Doxy. Just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> > Dea

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > From: malindabross@

> > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:11 +0000

> > Subject: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I want to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help. Having all you

guys

> > out there is such a blessing. I want to also thank the silent ones. I know

there

> > are many who read the posts and put a lot of thought into a situation but

> > because they are unsure of how to help or possibly someone else may have

already

> > responded in the same way they would have, they don't post. But just knowing

you

> > are there and willing to post if you feel you had some advice that was not

being

> > shared means a lot to me.

> >

> > I feel an obligation to share with you all the treatment plan I have chosen.

> > Those who have read my original post know when I posted the first time, I

did

> > not have any sign of lyme, I just pulled a deer tick off of me. Since I am

one

> > who encourages anyone in that situation to get on Doxy immediately, I

surprised

> > even myself by stalling. I have struggled with candida for many years and

just

> > in recent years have it under control. Going on abx unnecessarily is just

> > something I really did not want to do.

> >

> > However, watching my son suffer many years from the horrendous effects of

lyme,

> > I knew I wanted avoid lyme way more than a candida flare-up. I decided to

see my

> > ND that muscle-tested me on various natural supps. for lyme. I tested

positive

> > for pretty many, which told us that the chance were great that I had indeed

> > contacted lyme. I decided to take the supps I tested for, but I also called

my

> > Dr and got some Doxy. Here is a list of all that I am taking daily for

> > first-stage lyme.

> >

> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> >

> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3

> > drop doses.

> >

> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> >

> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> >

> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> >

> > Iodine (topically)

> >

> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique.

> > This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip

it

> > in the bud.

> >

> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

am

> > feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but

other

> > than that all is good.

> >

> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control herx.  It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. If it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to the mix - oh and detox.  Then, I'd just do doxy,  working through the full MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard because you haven't been infected long.  So hit away! IDK - you probably have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing off as soon as you begin herxing.

Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3 drop doses.

Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip it in the bud.

The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but other than that all is good.

God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

I saw in your original post that you got muscle tested. My Dr. muscle tests me

for compatibility of the many different items I take to combat the LD and

strenghthen/support my organs & immune system. It's always worked wonderfully

for me...muscle test your regimen. I'm glad you found the buggers at the

beginning of their invasion. Good luck to you! - Misty

>

>

> My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other out--for

example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic ineffective. MMS

sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere with Doxy. Just

wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> Dea

>

>

[Guest guest]

I did muscle-test positive for everything together without the doxycycline. I

did not have any doxy at that time to test with. But I am pretty sure my ND said

it don't work to muscle-test for antiobiotics. I forget why. I think he said the

body always rejects it. Although, he did recommend I go on it. Does anyone else

know about that?

> >

> >

> > My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other

out--for example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic

ineffective. MMS sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere

with Doxy. Just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> > Dea

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do you think I would get a big herx since I only have recently been infected? I

did not, as far as I know have lyme before this recent bite.

Today I am feeling a little blah. Slightly nauseous and some muscle soreness.

The ring is still slightly visible, which surprises me a little bit. I thought

if I remember correctly from eleven years ago, my sons went away within approx.

24 hrs after starting abx. Maybe I just forget and it was longer.

Today I have a visit with the Dr that prescribed the doxy by phone on Sat. It

will be interesting to see what he has to say. He is a LLMD, just not sure how

much he may know about MMS, but I am pretty sure he would be familiar with cats

claw and silver.

Thanks again for your concern.

God bless~Malinda

>

> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control

> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not

> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

>

> What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop

> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

>

> You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If

> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to

> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had

> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

>

> Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

>

> I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and

> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

>

> And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing

> off as soon as you begin herxing.

>

>

>

> >

> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> >

> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > 3 drop doses.

> >

> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> >

> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> >

> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> >

> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one

> > chance to nip it in the bud.

> >

> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but

> > other than that all is good.

> >

> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,Having decided I want my household stocked with 6 weeks' worth of doxy, in case any loved one gets bitten, I researched and found that alldaychemist.com sells it. It's a reputable, offshore source (India), from which I've received other generic drugs, and though there's a page for doctor info, if you skip it, the order will still be filled. Shipping is pricey and takes a couple weeks, but the drugs aren't expensive and are top-notch.Just thought you'd want to know, if your doc balks at longer than a month's worth.Be well,LénaDo you think I would get a big herx since I only have recently been infected? I did not, as far as I know have lyme before this recent bite. Today I am feeling a little blah. Slightly nauseous and some muscle soreness. The ring is still slightly visible, which surprises me a little bit. I thought if I remember correctly from eleven years ago, my sons went away within approx. 24 hrs after starting abx. Maybe I just forget and it was longer. Today I have a visit with the Dr that prescribed the doxy by phone on Sat. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. He is a LLMD, just not sure how much he may know about MMS, but I am pretty sure he would be familiar with cats claw and silver.Thanks again for your concern.God bless~Malinda>> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing> off as soon as you begin herxing.> > > > >> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.> >> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to> > 3 drop doses.> >> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)> >> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)> >> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)> >> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one> > chance to nip it in the bud.> >> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but> > other than that all is good.> >> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

I was muscle-tested for abx for Lyme and tested negative to use abx. He has also

tested other Lymies for abx and herbal remedies - it work together positively:

Especially to help support and build specific organs and systems within the body

to help cleanse and protect them from damage/inflammation from the neurotoxins

released by the dead spriros. For me, the abx would make my body weaker...have

problems, and be " set back " by them. (Hey! Have your doc test you for rife

treatments.)

Have you read " When Antibiotics Fail...Lyme Disease & Rife Machines " by

Rosner? I thought it was interesting and believe it to be true when he states

that abx can kill some of the spirochetes, but many of them " hide " , by forming a

cyst around themselves, when abx is detected by the spiros. While they're in the

cyst, there is documentation that as many as 5 new spirochetes can form. The

beefed up army of spiros come out of their cysts when the immune system is

stressed/weak. He has sound research that if you want to kill the LD (CHRONIC

LD), it is best to go off the abx and do rife treatments. I can't remember how

new your infection is...if it's new, the studies show that abx use works well

and efficiently...but some may " hide " .

Remember long, long term use of high dosages of antibiotics is toxic to the

body. I'm not anti anti-biotics...just a friendly reminder.

Also, I use a homeopathic remedy that greatly reduces my LD symptoms and herxing

symptoms. It also helps the immune system fight the buggers. It's called " Lym "

by Deseret Biologicals and I've used " Borrelia Remedy " by the same company. They

have been a Godsend. I was muscle-tested for the dosing and which product to

use. I have far fewer seizures and do not suffer from daily parathesis since

taking the remedies. (I also took other supplements as well, but the borrelia

remedy worked wonders (the Lym does too).

I hope I didn't get too long-winded. I wish you the best. Keep fighting...what a

blessing that you found it early on.

> > >

> > >

> > > My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other

out--for example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic

ineffective. MMS sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere

with Doxy. Just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> > > Dea

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

LenaThanks so much for posting this!  I have a good friend from India. Almost all the meds over there are over the counter, mostly generic.  She always offers for me, but there's nothing I need. When she gets things for herself, a month's supply is like a dollar or two or three. Everything is sealed and blister packaged. I'm sure it's a bit more online, but still a great idea. A back up of doxy is smart!  My doc would give it to me, but that would take at least 3-4 days, too long in my mind.

 

Hi Malinda,Having decided I want my household stocked with 6 weeks' worth of doxy, in case any loved one gets bitten, I researched and found that alldaychemist.com sells it. It's a reputable, offshore source (India), from which I've received other generic drugs, and though there's a page for doctor info, if you skip it, the order will still be filled. Shipping is pricey and takes a couple weeks, but the drugs aren't expensive and are top-notch.

Just thought you'd want to know, if your doc balks at longer than a month's worth.Be well,

Léna

Do you think I would get a big herx since I only have recently been infected? I did not, as far as I know have lyme before this recent bite. 

Today I am feeling a little blah. Slightly nauseous and some muscle soreness. The ring is still slightly visible, which surprises me a little bit. I thought if I remember correctly from eleven years ago, my sons went away within approx. 24 hrs after starting abx. Maybe I just forget and it was longer. 

Today I have a visit with the Dr that prescribed the doxy by phone on Sat. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. He is a LLMD, just not sure how much he may know about MMS, but I am pretty sure he would be familiar with cats claw and silver.

Thanks again for your concern.God bless~Malinda

>> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing> off as soon as you begin herxing.> 

> > > >> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.> >> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > 3 drop doses.> >> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)> >> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)> >> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)> >

> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one> > chance to nip it in the bud.> >> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but> > other than that all is good.> >> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda> >

> > > >>

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Malinda,It sounds like the herx is beginning and could really grow if you don't slow down on everything but doxy. Remember, you may have been recently infected with Lyme, but who knows what other bugs, pathogens and parasites your immune system has kept in checked. You are now using a broad spectrum and killing lots of bugs, not to mention that as you are killing lots of bugs many of them are releasing heavy metals. You DO NOT want an excess of HM circulating in your blood stream. You can only process out so many and the rest will resettle somewhere - possibly your brain.

Please, please please, may I suggest you spend the day detoxing using plenty of binders.

Do you think I would get a big herx since I only have recently been infected? I did not, as far as I know have lyme before this recent bite. 

Today I am feeling a little blah. Slightly nauseous and some muscle soreness. The ring is still slightly visible, which surprises me a little bit. I thought if I remember correctly from eleven years ago, my sons went away within approx. 24 hrs after starting abx. Maybe I just forget and it was longer. 

Today I have a visit with the Dr that prescribed the doxy by phone on Sat. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. He is a LLMD, just not sure how much he may know about MMS, but I am pretty sure he would be familiar with cats claw and silver.

Thanks again for your concern.God bless~Malinda

>> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing> off as soon as you begin herxing.> 

> > > >> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.> >> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > 3 drop doses.> >> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)> >> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)> >> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)> >

> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one> > chance to nip it in the bud.> >> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but> > other than that all is good.> >> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda> >

> > > >>

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, If you go this route, do it soon, though, as shipping IS slow, and you'd want to get some before your stateside scrip runs out. LLenaThanks so much for posting this! I have a good friend from India. Almost all the meds over there are over the counter, mostly generic. She always offers for me, but there's nothing I need. When she gets things for herself, a month's supply is like a dollar or two or three. Everything is sealed and blister packaged. I'm sure it's a bit more online, but still a great idea. A back up of doxy is smart! My doc would give it to me, but that would take at least 3-4 days, too long in my mind. Hi Malinda,Having decided I want my household stocked with 6 weeks' worth of doxy, in case any loved one gets bitten, I researched and found thatalldaychemist.com sells it. It's a reputable, offshore source (India), from which I've received other generic drugs, and though there's a page for doctor info, if you skip it, the order will still be filled. Shipping is pricey and takes a couple weeks, but the drugs aren't expensive and are top-notch.Just thought you'd want to know, if your doc balks at longer than a month's worth.Be well,LénaDo you think I would get a big herx since I only have recently been infected? I did not, as far as I know have lyme before this recent bite. Today I am feeling a little blah. Slightly nauseous and some muscle soreness. The ring is still slightly visible, which surprises me a little bit. I thought if I remember correctly from eleven years ago, my sons went away within approx. 24 hrs after starting abx. Maybe I just forget and it was longer. Today I have a visit with the Dr that prescribed the doxy by phone on Sat. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. He is a LLMD, just not sure how much he may know about MMS, but I am pretty sure he would be familiar with cats claw and silver.Thanks again for your concern.God bless~Malinda>> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing> off as soon as you begin herxing.> > > > >> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.> >> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to> > 3 drop doses.> >> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)> >> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)> >> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)> >> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one> > chance to nip it in the bud.> >> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but> > other than that all is good.> >> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda> >> > > >>

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Thank you, Lena!

That is valuable info for sure!

I was not able to make a appt today with the LLMD, I had to set it up for Wed.

If he will not extend my prescription, I think I will be using this outfit.

I feel pretty fortunate to be near a Dr that readily calls a Rx into the

pharmacy immediately when I call. But I hope everyone out there that does not

have it so well, sees this message.

God bless~Malinda

> >

> > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of

> control

> > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his

> problem (not

> > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> >

> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow,

> one drop

> > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops

> all day.

> >

> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx

> is at. *If

> > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before

> adding MMS to

> > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through

> the full

> > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us

> have had

> > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

> >

> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> >

> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the

> MMS and

> > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> >

> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit

> it hard

> > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you

> probably

> > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think

> about backing

> > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk

> him into a

> > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > >

> > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to

> up this to

> > > 3 drop doses.

> > >

> > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > >

> > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > >

> > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > >

> > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have

> this one

> > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > >

> > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24

> hrs ago. I

> > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit

> tired, but

> > > other than that all is good.

> > >

> > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Dea,

MMS does not interfere with any medications, has been used with Doxy

extensively, also will not interfere with supps... Except that Vit C will render

MMS useless, so must be taken 2 hour apart, also antioxidant supplements, they

can lessen MMS somewhat, so take 1 hr apart... Natural antioxidants from food do

not affect MMS...

Take care

Jim

>

>

> My only question here is will some of the remedies cancel each other out--for

example taking Olive Leaf Extract could render an antibiotic ineffective. MMS

sounds like a Godsend, but I don't know if it will interfere with Doxy. Just

wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge about this.

> Dea

>

>

>

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> From: malindabross@...

> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:11 +0000

> Subject: Treating a deer tick bite w/ bulls-eye rash

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> I want to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help. Having all you guys

> out there is such a blessing. I want to also thank the silent ones. I know

there

> are many who read the posts and put a lot of thought into a situation but

> because they are unsure of how to help or possibly someone else may have

already

> responded in the same way they would have, they don't post. But just knowing

you

> are there and willing to post if you feel you had some advice that was not

being

> shared means a lot to me.

>

> I feel an obligation to share with you all the treatment plan I have chosen.

> Those who have read my original post know when I posted the first time, I did

> not have any sign of lyme, I just pulled a deer tick off of me. Since I am one

> who encourages anyone in that situation to get on Doxy immediately, I

surprised

> even myself by stalling. I have struggled with candida for many years and just

> in recent years have it under control. Going on abx unnecessarily is just

> something I really did not want to do.

>

> However, watching my son suffer many years from the horrendous effects of

lyme,

> I knew I wanted avoid lyme way more than a candida flare-up. I decided to see

my

> ND that muscle-tested me on various natural supps. for lyme. I tested positive

> for pretty many, which told us that the chance were great that I had indeed

> contacted lyme. I decided to take the supps I tested for, but I also called my

> Dr and got some Doxy. Here is a list of all that I am taking daily for

> first-stage lyme.

>

> Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

>

> MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to 3

> drop doses.

>

> Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

>

> Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

>

> Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

>

> Iodine (topically)

>

> I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to critique.

> This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one chance to nip it

> in the bud.

>

> The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I am

> feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but other

> than that all is good.

>

> God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

>

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Hi and Malinda,

Using MMS and CS will render MMS useless... CS is a heavy metal, MMS will be

spent on much of oxidizing this heavy metal... MMS does everything CS does and

far more, both aren't needed...

Take care,

Jim

>

> Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control

> herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not

> sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

>

> What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop

> 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

>

> You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If

> it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to

> the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had

> those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

>

> Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

>

> I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and

> silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

>

> And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing

> off as soon as you begin herxing.

>

>

>

> >

> > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> >

> > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > 3 drop doses.

> >

> > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> >

> > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> >

> > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> >

> > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one

> > chance to nip it in the bud.

> >

> > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but

> > other than that all is good.

> >

> > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Malinda,

Your herx with your new infection should be more muted, the bacteria has not had

much time to reproduce to a large enough infection yet.. When Dr. Burrascano

started treating an acute infection, he used 300 - 600 mg of Doxy daily, as he

says it is so important to keep blood serum levels high..

Don't use the silver, it will render MMS useless as MMS will be spent on

oxidizing the heavy metals of with silver is... MMS does far more than silver,

so it is not necessary...

Take care,

Jim

> >

> > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control

> > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not

> > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> >

> > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop

> > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

> >

> > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If

> > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to

> > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had

> > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

> >

> > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> >

> > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and

> > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> >

> > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing

> > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > >

> > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > > 3 drop doses.

> > >

> > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > >

> > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > >

> > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > >

> > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one

> > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > >

> > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but

> > > other than that all is good.

> > >

> > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim,

I appreciate this info.

I have been taking CS around 8AM and start my 8-hr. protocol of MMS at 3PM. Is

that still a problem? Also, when I get to 3 drops hourly for 8 hrs., do I stay

at that amount or do I still try to get more in?

God bless, Malinda

> > >

> > > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control

> > > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem

(not

> > > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > >

> > > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> > > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one

drop

> > > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all

day.

> > >

> > > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at.

*If

> > > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS

to

> > > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the

full

> > > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had

> > > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

> > >

> > > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> > >

> > > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS

and

> > > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> > >

> > > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> > > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> > > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about

backing

> > > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into

a

> > > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > > >

> > > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this

to

> > > > 3 drop doses.

> > > >

> > > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > > >

> > > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > > >

> > > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > > >

> > > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one

> > > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > > >

> > > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago.

I

> > > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired,

but

> > > > other than that all is good.

> > > >

> > > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

CS unlike MMS, remains in the body for some time... Each time MMS collides with

it, that ion of MMS gets used up on CS, not available for a pathogen.. Since MMS

does all that CS does and a lot more, there is really no reason to use CS..

Once you are at 3 drops for 8 hours, you could decided to remain as is, add more

drops per hour or add more hours.. Since you are also going to use Doxy, I think

you are covered using both Doxy and MMS 3 x 8... But if at any time you feel

this is not enough, adding hours is better than adding drops.. Some (not on our

group) are using 3 drops per hour for 15 hours... This makes more sense as you

have MMS working in your longer...

When you think about it, Doxy 200 mg and MMS 24 drops daily is pretty powerful,

this is a small infection right now, so this should easily be enough.. Rememeber

while using both together, if you experience nausea, diarrhea or fatigue, best

to lower the MMS by several drops for 3 days, then try scaling up again... These

symptoms are signs of killing too much too quickly... If you still have that red

circle around the bite, activate 3 drops of MMS, add 1 oz of water and apply to

the bite site, if you have DMSO, then apply it on top of the MMS... Do this

daily.

Normally Doxy alone has an 80% success rate for the acute phase, add in MMS,

should be just about 100%... I would feel comfy with this protocol..

Jim

> > > >

> > > > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of

control

> > > > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem

(not

> > > > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > > >

> > > > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> > > > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one

drop

> > > > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all

day.

> > > >

> > > > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at.

*If

> > > > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding

MMS to

> > > > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the

full

> > > > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have

had

> > > > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

> > > >

> > > > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> > > >

> > > > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS

and

> > > > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> > > >

> > > > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it

hard

> > > > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> > > > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about

backing

> > > > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him

into a

> > > > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > > > >

> > > > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up

this to

> > > > > 3 drop doses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > > > >

> > > > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > > > >

> > > > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > > > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this

one

> > > > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > > > >

> > > > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs

ago. I

> > > > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired,

but

> > > > > other than that all is good.

> > > > >

> > > > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jim, glad you are " comfy " ! I am too with your idea.

 

Hi Malinda,

CS unlike MMS, remains in the body for some time... Each time MMS collides with it, that ion of MMS gets used up on CS, not available for a pathogen.. Since MMS does all that CS does and a lot more, there is really no reason to use CS..

Once you are at 3 drops for 8 hours, you could decided to remain as is, add more drops per hour or add more hours.. Since you are also going to use Doxy, I think you are covered using both Doxy and MMS 3 x 8... But if at any time you feel this is not enough, adding hours is better than adding drops.. Some (not on our group) are using 3 drops per hour for 15 hours... This makes more sense as you have MMS working in your longer...

When you think about it, Doxy 200 mg and MMS 24 drops daily is pretty powerful, this is a small infection right now, so this should easily be enough.. Rememeber while using both together, if you experience nausea, diarrhea or fatigue, best to lower the MMS by several drops for 3 days, then try scaling up again... These symptoms are signs of killing too much too quickly... If you still have that red circle around the bite, activate 3 drops of MMS, add 1 oz of water and apply to the bite site, if you have DMSO, then apply it on top of the MMS... Do this daily.

Normally Doxy alone has an 80% success rate for the acute phase, add in MMS, should be just about 100%... I would feel comfy with this protocol..

Jim

> > > >

> > > > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of control

> > > > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his problem (not

> > > > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > > >

> > > > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day. Just

> > > > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow, one drop

> > > > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops all day.

> > > >

> > > > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx is at. *If

> > > > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before adding MMS to

> > > > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through the full

> > > > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us have had

> > > > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to you.

> > > >

> > > > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was at.

> > > >

> > > > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the MMS and

> > > > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> > > >

> > > > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit it hard

> > > > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you probably

> > > > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think about backing

> > > > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk him into a

> > > > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > > > >

> > > > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to up this to

> > > > > 3 drop doses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > > > >

> > > > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > > > >

> > > > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys to

> > > > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have this one

> > > > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > > > >

> > > > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24 hrs ago. I

> > > > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit tired, but

> > > > > other than that all is good.

> > > > >

> > > > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim and .

I believe that will be my plan then.

~ Malinda

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of

> > control

> > > > > > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his

> > problem (not

> > > > > > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day.

> > Just

> > > > > > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours tomorrow,

> > one drop

> > > > > > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops

> > all day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx

> > is at. *If

> > > > > > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before

> > adding MMS to

> > > > > > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through

> > the full

> > > > > > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us

> > have had

> > > > > > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to

> > you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was

> > at.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think the

> > MMS and

> > > > > > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit

> > it hard

> > > > > > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you

> > probably

> > > > > > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think

> > about backing

> > > > > > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk

> > him into a

> > > > > > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to

> > up this to

> > > > > > > 3 drop doses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys

> > to

> > > > > > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have

> > this one

> > > > > > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24

> > hrs ago. I

> > > > > > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit

> > tired, but

> > > > > > > other than that all is good.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yes, an I decided to stop the CS. I am now doing MMS 8X2, might up it to 8X3

today.

God bless ~ Malinda

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Malinda, I'm worried you are going to send yourself into an out of

> > > control

> > > > > > > herx. It's sounding more and more from Jim, that this was his

> > > problem (not

> > > > > > > sure I have it right) and he still hasn't recovered.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What about just the Doxy and maybe the MMS, and not MMS all day.

> > > Just

> > > > > > > scaling up, daily; one drop today, one drop for two hours

tomorrow,

> > > one drop

> > > > > > > 3x, etc. Once you are at 1 drop all day, you could move to 2 drops

> > > all day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are going to know by tomorrow or the next day where your herx

> > > is at. *If

> > > > > > > it were me, I'd back off tomorrow and wait a day or two before

> > > adding MMS to

> > > > > > > the mix - oh and detox*. Then, I'd just do doxy, working through

> > > the full

> > > > > > > MMS protocol, iodine and probiotics. But, that's me.So many of us

> > > have had

> > > > > > > those herxes that are scary bad. I don't want that to happen to

> > > you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Oh, I'd be coiling or rifing too - once I knew where my herx was

> > > at.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't think there is a problem with MMS and Doxy, but I think

the

> > > MMS and

> > > > > > > silver is not a good combo - if memory serves me correct.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And, my other thought is that you won't have a big herx if you hit

> > > it hard

> > > > > > > because you haven't been infected long. So hit away! IDK - you

> > > probably

> > > > > > > have other stuff you'll hit too. Whatever you do, please think

> > > about backing

> > > > > > > off as soon as you begin herxing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Doxycycline (100mg 2X) I got a 30-day supply, I may try to talk

> > > him into a

> > > > > > > > 6-week treatment. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MMS (1 drop, activated, hourly for 8 hrs.) I am going to try to

> > > up this to

> > > > > > > > 3 drop doses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cat's Claw Tincture (1 tsp.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sarsaparilla (6 dropperfuls)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Silver Shield from Nature Sunshine (1 tsp.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am posting this to share my experience, but also for you guys

> > > to

> > > > > > > > critique. This may sound like an over-kill but I figure I have

> > > this one

> > > > > > > > chance to nip it in the bud.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The rash showed up approx. 36 hrs ago and I started the Doxy 24

> > > hrs ago. I

> > > > > > > > am feeling OK. My throat is slightly sore and I am a little bit

> > > tired, but

> > > > > > > > other than that all is good.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > God bless you all and thanks again for caring, Malinda

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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