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Hi Trish, Please hang in there-I understand your frustration completely, I

live in laurel, md in between dc and Baltimore. I feel exactly as you do.

I now have kaiser permente and is confined to their centers- I usually feel

that I know just as much as their doctors and staff. I usually get answers

that are not definitive. It frustrates me that there is not an expert known

to me that can give me an definitive answer about this disease and how it

will affect my life. All you can do is try to live a healthy life, living

each moment to the fullest, seek out information on your own and make the

best possible decisions for you . My symptoms have remained nonprogressive

for the last two years occasional jaundice, frequent fatigue and greatly

improved itching(I use to lie awake at night scratching this would make me

even more tired the next day--I believe that questran or actigall does help

me with the itching and fatigue but I believe the biggest help is my

attitude toward life and this disease. My favorite hobby three years ago

was lying in bed watching tv all weekend. I do believe that you should get

proper rest and listen to your body. I still enjoy lying around on the

weekends, but it's no longer all I do. After the diagnosis, I decided that

if the Lord said my time was up on tomorrow-I can say that I Lived today to

the fullest. I have been terrified and fearful of the future in the past-but

I decided that I could not live w/o having peace in my heart today b/c of

not knowing what lies ahead. I 've had symptoms for the last four-five

years. I have seen specialists for the last two and half. As of this date

after many test and procedures, my doctor just last week wants to repeat an

ERCP because he is unsure of my last doctors diagnosis. When ask why he

states that it's probably is psc but goes further to say that my previous

results indicates that that the procedures were not definitive. Since it

has been your experience and may continue to be so that you know more than

your doctor, that you will have to find a way to peacefully enjoy life every

moment with the uncertainty that will exist. The minute that I find a

doctor that is knowledgeable in MD-DC I will share with the group. I've only

had three GI-all of which admitted that they knew little about the disease.

I wish you inner peace. Be encouraged . Yherring@...

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Hi to you all,

I'm not a very active member of this supportgroup, but In the last year I've

learned a lot from you guy's!!!

But lately I'm experiencing a lot of forgetfullness, not beiing able to

remember names I normally would remember, difficulty concentrating.

Is this what you call brain fog???

I'm having this problem since I started taking hormones for IVF

(fertilitytreatment) about 2 months ago.(it was unsuccesssful.)

My livervalues are very low, in fact they are within the normal range for a

healthy person (but on the high side)so no complaints from there.

I remember some conversations about a test for brain fog???

What can you do about it?

It is very awkward that sometimes I can't remember what my friends told me

about , for exampel, there hollyday.( or how to spell in english)

It feels like I'm not interested,but I am! So it's very frustrating.

Is there something I can do in my diet?

I'm eating a lot of vegetables, not a lot of meat ( dutch people don't eat a

lot of meat compared to americans and I'm eating even less), not much fat

and sugar and drink a lot of water.

I'm not taking any Urso because of our childwish.

I read the discussion about pregnancy and Urso ,but I'm not taking any risk.

I gess I'm still one of the lucky one's , without any medications for my

liver my values went down (since I stopped working).

I'm only experiencing a lot of fatigue, so I'm on the dutch disability.

I hope you can help me with the fain fog (maybe a transplant?:-)))).

from Holland. ( or The Netherlands as we actually say)

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Yolanda,

Phil and I have Kaiser, I changed to Kaiser to keep him on it. Kaiser pays

100% of the transplant, and when Phil was diagnosed (the GI doctor Dr.

Zweiban) pin pointed it even before his ERCP and due to his infections he

was referred to a Hepatologist who was very aggressive in getting him

listed. His name is Dr. Kahn. If your doctors aren't knowledgeable have

them contact either of them in California. They are wonderful. They told

me never to switch from Kaiser. I switched my insurance because I

ultimately would have to cover Phil. If I had to get a job at Kaiser, I

wouldn't change insurance. They have been wonderful. Dr. Zweiban told us

he has 25 PSC patients. He does ERCP all the time and doesn't recommend

them unless it is absolutely necessary for diagnosis or to remove a stone

that is causing a blockage (or to put in a stent which wasn't an option for

Phil because he has too many constrictions). Dr Kahn is a wonderful

Hepatologist and very knowledgeable about PSC and Dr. Donovan did a talk on

PSC for an American Liver Foundation seminar. Even Phils Internist is

knowledgeable. Insist on going to a Hepatologist. Dr. Zweiban Phil's GI

doctor has a subspecialty in Hepatology. There are Kaiser doctors that are

very good and it sounds like you are getting good treatment. We all have to

gain all the knowledge we can and give it to the doctors it is necessary

that we take an active part. Our doctors have been very encouraging in the

caregiver being proactive and have never resented anything I have come up

with. I hope and pray that you will find a knowledgeable doctor/s to help

you.

Peg

foggy brain????

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> Hi to you all,

>

> I'm not a very active member of this supportgroup, but In the last year

I've

> learned a lot from you guy's!!!

> But lately I'm experiencing a lot of forgetfullness, not beiing able to

> remember names I normally would remember, difficulty concentrating.

> Is this what you call brain fog???

> I'm having this problem since I started taking hormones for IVF

> (fertilitytreatment) about 2 months ago.(it was unsuccesssful.)

> My livervalues are very low, in fact they are within the normal range for

a

> healthy person (but on the high side)so no complaints from there.

> I remember some conversations about a test for brain fog???

> What can you do about it?

> It is very awkward that sometimes I can't remember what my friends told me

> about , for exampel, there hollyday.( or how to spell in english)

> It feels like I'm not interested,but I am! So it's very frustrating.

> Is there something I can do in my diet?

> I'm eating a lot of vegetables, not a lot of meat ( dutch people don't eat

a

> lot of meat compared to americans and I'm eating even less), not much fat

> and sugar and drink a lot of water.

> I'm not taking any Urso because of our childwish.

> I read the discussion about pregnancy and Urso ,but I'm not taking any

risk.

> I gess I'm still one of the lucky one's , without any medications for my

> liver my values went down (since I stopped working).

> I'm only experiencing a lot of fatigue, so I'm on the dutch disability.

> I hope you can help me with the fain fog (maybe a transplant?:-)))).

>

> from Holland. ( or The Netherlands as we actually say)

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