Re: Low carbohydrate diets:

[Guest guest]

That is one arguement of low carbing... ketones and the tear down on body

but how often does this really happen? That is the ADA's ongoing argument

against low carbing... protein *can* ruine kidneys and Bernstein has shown

medically with his research/patients that high bgs is what ruines kidneys,

not protein consumption. Dr. Bernstein and his patients never experience

this at all. Bernstein states, then keep reading for a link to this chapter

from his book to keep reading it, that...

If you are a long-standing diabetic and are frustrated with the care you've

received over the years, you

have probably been conditioned to think that protein is more of a poison

than sugar and is the cause

of kidney disease. I was conditioned the same way—many years ago, as I

mentioned, I had laboratory evidence

of advanced proteinuria, signifying potentially fatal kidney disease—but in

this case, the conventional

wisdom is just a myth.

Nondiabetics who eat a lot of protein don't get diabetic kidney disease.

Diabetics with normalized blood

sugars don't get diabetic kidney disease. High levels of dietary protein do

not cause kidney disease

in diabetics or anyone else. There is no higher incidence of kidney disease

in the cattle-growing states

of the United States, where many people eat steak every day, than there is

in the states where beef is

more expensive and consumed to a much lesser degree. Similarly, the

incidence of kidney disease in vegetarians

is the same as the incidence of kidney disease in nonvegetarians. It is the

high blood sugar levels that

are unique to diabetes, and to a much lesser degree the high levels of

insulin required to cover them

(causing hypertension), that cause the complications associated with

diabetes.

*** and the link to the article/chapter of his book watch for word wrap ***

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/readit/chapter9.shtml

Low carbohydrate diets:

> This is what quackwatch has to say about low carbohydrate diets:

> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lcd.html

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[Guest guest]

The author of quackwatch.org Dr. Barrett has the following to say

about nutrition,

" People should eat about 60% carbs, 25% fat, and 15% protein. "

The above quote is one taken directly from a biography interviewer as found

in a link on his web page.

Low carbohydrate diets:

> This is what quackwatch has to say about low carbohydrate diets:

> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lcd.html

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information as stated by Dr. Bernstein. I will conduct a

test of Dr. Barrett to see if he is on the level. I will submit Dr.

Bernstein's quotes to Dr. Barrett and see what he has to say about Dr.

Bernstein's theory.

Dr. Barrett reports that he answers quack complaints promptly. I don't know

what he means by promptly, but I am about to find out.

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[Guest guest]

Harry notice he said people in this quote and not diabetics...

" People should eat about 60% carbs, 25% fat, and 15% protein. "

No where does he mention this should be for diabetic consumption. However,

the ADA would probably applaud him LOL. He probably has no exposure to long

term diabetic research in improving bgs control by low carbing or diabetic

complications caused from low carbing. However, Bernstein has over 15 years

of proven patient research that low carbing doesn't effect diabetics, it is

the high bgs that effects it. I just hate to see docs spouting off numbers

and worst case scenarios trying to put fear in people without taking into

account Bernstein's, and other endos following the low carb approach,

findings or those diabetics on low carb diets with good bgs etc. and their

research is laced with *can* or *could* clear through it to breed fear

without long term patient research behind it. It's like the articles that

scream don't eat nutra sweet or you'll get cancer and how many die from

drinking diet pepsi?

Just my two sense...

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[Guest guest]

You may be right about Dr. Barrett. In fact I think you are right on. I

notice that Dr. Barrett frowns upon vitamin and mineral supplements in

general and in fact believes that any vitamin intake over the FDA's RDA

(recommended daily allotment) should be mandated as a drug. This would give

more power to M. D.'s to start making money by prescribing vitamins that

exceed the RDA.

I found only one reference link where he recommended vitamins and amino

acids and that was regarding homosystein levels in the blood. He did

recommend Vitamin B6 and Vitamin B12 and Folic acid for the treatment under

medical supervision for elevated homosystein levels. Oh, in another link he

also recommended niacin for the treatment of elevated cholesterol levels,

also.

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[Guest guest]

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How long have you been a diabetic?

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[Guest guest]

are you on an ace enhibetor?

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[Guest guest]

Just from my own experience, , I agree with Dr. Berstein. From many

years of non-compliance to a good diabetic diet, I have developed

proteniuria and a creatinine level of 1.9. However, since I have been

watching it and keeping my A1C around 6, neither the protein has increased

nor has the creatinine level increased. For someone who has been diabetic

as long as I have, docs are amazed I am in as good shape as I am in.I intend

to stay that way! (P.S. " normal " creatinine is up to 1.5)

Re: Low carbohydrate diets:

That is one arguement of low carbing... ketones and the tear down on body

but how often does this really happen? That is the ADA's ongoing argument

against low carbing... protein *can* ruine kidneys and Bernstein has shown

medically with his research/patients that high bgs is what ruines kidneys,

not protein consumption. Dr. Bernstein and his patients never experience

this at all. Bernstein states, then keep reading for a link to this chapter

from his book to keep reading it, that...

If you are a long-standing diabetic and are frustrated with the care you've

received over the years, you

have probably been conditioned to think that protein is more of a poison

than sugar and is the cause

of kidney disease. I was conditioned the same way—many years ago, as I

mentioned, I had laboratory evidence

of advanced proteinuria, signifying potentially fatal kidney disease—but in

this case, the conventional

wisdom is just a myth.

Nondiabetics who eat a lot of protein don't get diabetic kidney disease.

Diabetics with normalized blood

sugars don't get diabetic kidney disease. High levels of dietary protein do

not cause kidney disease

in diabetics or anyone else. There is no higher incidence of kidney disease

in the cattle-growing states

of the United States, where many people eat steak every day, than there is

in the states where beef is

more expensive and consumed to a much lesser degree. Similarly, the

incidence of kidney disease in vegetarians

is the same as the incidence of kidney disease in nonvegetarians. It is the

high blood sugar levels that

are unique to diabetes, and to a much lesser degree the high levels of

insulin required to cover them

(causing hypertension), that cause the complications associated with

diabetes.

*** and the link to the article/chapter of his book watch for word wrap ***

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/readit/chapter9.shtml

Low carbohydrate diets:

> This is what quackwatch has to say about low carbohydrate diets:

> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lcd.html

>

[Guest guest]

Does this doctor take diabetes in consideration? This 60% may be good for a

non-diabetic or for someone who does a lot of exercise, but it is not good

for a diabetic! (Unless the diabetic does a whole lot of exercise directly

after eating).

Re: Low carbohydrate diets:

The author of quackwatch.org Dr. Barrett has the following to say

about nutrition,

" People should eat about 60% carbs, 25% fat, and 15% protein. "

The above quote is one taken directly from a biography interviewer as found

in a link on his web page.

Low carbohydrate diets:

> This is what quackwatch has to say about low carbohydrate diets:

> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lcd.html

>

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[Guest guest]

you go girl!

smile

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[Guest guest]

Harry, I have been diabetic 59 years-I will be 61 in November.

Re: Low carbohydrate diets:

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How long have you been a diabetic?

Low carbohydrate diets:

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> > This is what quackwatch has to say about low carbohydrate diets:

> > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lcd.html

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