Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 >I have written three books on >>the subject, one of which is not yet in print, but is due for publication >>in the new year. surprise surprise.. he cured his wife of cancer with secret ingredients that you can only learn about by buying his books.. CAREFUL out there.. there are tons of folks living off the misfortune and (HOPE for a cure) of others.. on the other hand: someone go to AU and look at this lady..read her medical history at the REAL hospital, talk to her doctor there.. if it turns out that he REALLY did CURE bile duct cancer then ask him WHY he won't help all mankind by GIVING his secret formula/regime to us, for free!! (or ask for a donation from all the folks that are also cured with HIS MAGIC!) DenverD: husband of Mette (44), UC '73, dx PSC 6/2000 alive in Denmark <www.Texan.dk> and very MUCH a cynic! (when it comes to bloodsucking snake oil salespeople) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Actually Denver, I just now received a private email from this man about this subject, he in NO way asked me to buy anything, etc...he mostly talked to me about the effects of foods etc and some of his ideas, I didn't say he was God, I simply am open to listen to ideas, he didn't say he cured her, he said they made the choice not to go the conventional route and 'for them' it worked........I for one do not enjoy sarcasm especially if it is directed at me......he is more than willing to tell me anything without me buying anything... but again, we are all entitiled to our own opinions. Patti > >Reply-To: egroups >To: " egroups " <egroups> >Subject: Re: Fwd: bile duct cancer >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:11:43 +0100 > > > > >I have written three books on > >>the subject, one of which is not yet in print, but is due for >publication > >>in the new year. > >surprise surprise.. >he cured his wife of cancer with secret ingredients that you can only learn >about by buying his books.. > >CAREFUL out there.. >there are tons of folks living off the misfortune and (HOPE for a cure) of >others.. > >on the other hand: someone go to AU and look at this lady..read her medical >history at the REAL hospital, talk to her doctor there.. >if it turns out that he REALLY did CURE bile duct cancer then ask him WHY >he >won't help all mankind by GIVING his secret formula/regime to us, for >free!! >(or ask for a donation from all the folks that are also cured with HIS >MAGIC!) > > >DenverD: husband of Mette (44), UC '73, dx PSC 6/2000 >alive in Denmark <www.Texan.dk> >and very MUCH a cynic! (when it comes to bloodsucking snake oil >salespeople) > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Hey! Normally I would just read and then ignore or try to ignore when someone gets blasted because I don't like confrontation! It reeks havoc with my guts. But come on, each of us has the right to present information to the group without feeling like we are going to get lambasted. From all the posts I have read, there are people within the group that are very interested in herbal/alternative treatments, and may want this type of information passed on. Like someone said before, we are new, old, traditional medicine, alternative medicine, early stages of PSC, late stages of PSC, transplanted, still waiting for transplant, hoping never to be transplanted......we are a melting pot of ideas, opinions, symptoms, etc. The key to success on this site is respect. Actually Denver, I just now received a private email from this man about this subject, he in NO way asked me to buy anything, etc...he mostly talked to me about the effects of foods etc and some of his ideas, I didn't say he was God, I simply am open to listen to ideas, he didn't say he cured her, he said they made the choice not to go the conventional route and 'for them' it worked........I for one do not enjoy sarcasm especially if it is directed at me......he is more than willing to tell me anything without me buying anything... but again, we are all entitiled to our own opinions. Patti >there are tons of folks living off the misfortune and (HOPE for a cure) of >others.. > >on the other hand: someone go to AU and look at this lady..read her medical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 >respect it was not my intention to be disrespectful.. >interested in herbal/alternative treatments a cure for bile duct cancer is what Mr. is selling.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 >directed at me it was not my intention to direct sarcasm at you (I addressed the group).. or anyone else (I intended no sarcasm--only a factual warning).. sorry if I offended you.. I have psoriasis (another " no cure " thingy), and know from experience that there are TONS of folks getting rich off of selling their magic-secret.. it WAS my intention to bring that up here.. write the nice man who sent you a private mail.. and ask him the details of how he cured his wifes cancer.. see what he says.. (I'm GUESSING he will say something like " Well, the cure is complicated, detailed and LONG--the easiest thing for YOU is if you get the book, I could send you one . . . I wanted to do it free but printing is SO EXPENSIVE I just couldn't do it . . . I can send you one--printing, postage and handling is ONLY $XX.xx. " Or maybe the guy at the 800 number does all the selling--give him a call and see.) my point is: don't buy from folks who are only selling 'hope'.. DenverD: husband of Mette (44), UC '73, dx PSC 6/2000 alive in Denmark <www.Texan.dk> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 I'm not going to get into a another pointless argument over this...Mr. did NOT ask me to buy anything, he did NOT solicit me, I asked HIM for advice, he did NOT claim to cure cancer, he and his wife chose NOT to go with conventional medicine and the approach they tried worked for THEM.......now, let's just say he did write a book and was selling it? Is that such a unique idea? How else do people get their ideas across....Dr. Palmer wrote a book, is she selling snake oil? Various people who claim to have new diets, what do they do? Write books, are they selling snake oil? If I had something happen to me, that I felt could help other people, I too would write a book, how else would I get my message across? He is writing of HIS experience, the great thing is, YOU don't have to buy his book if you don't want to....and since he never asked me to buy anything in our several emails to each other, I really wouldn't know how to go about buying it either even if I wanted to. I am happy for him and his wife that the approach they took worked for them, I don't wish them any harm for it. I see walking miracles everyday here at the hospital, I choose to see the good in what has happened as opposed to the cynisism. I just the other night saw a show about a woman who has beat scleraderma, an incurable disease, she did it through herbs, change of diet, meditation etc....is she selling snake oil? Or is it that we are threatened by the unknown, threatened by something that isn't in the 'medical journals' and documented as being real. Are we that narrow minded that we refuse to believe that there are other things than chemotherapy, radiation and the multi-billion dollar industry that cancer has evolved into? Don't ever kid yourself, there is profit in all illnesses, sad but true and no disease is a lucrative as cancer. I am an intelligent person, I watched my father die from cancer, I asked my own Government for help and got nothing, I researched alternatives and searched out the 'snake oil'....I never kidded myself for one minute on what was crap and what wasn't, but it's like this, when the chips are down and conventinal medicine hands you nothing....I'll take the snake oil, because even if what Mr. is selling hope, that's better than nothing at all. End of discussion, Patti > >Reply-To: egroups >To: " egroups " <egroups> >Subject: RE: Fwd: bile duct cancer >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:24:13 +0100 > > > > >respect > >it was not my intention to be disrespectful.. > > > >interested in herbal/alternative treatments > >a cure for bile duct cancer is what Mr. is selling.. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 I don't quite get the joke here...but I would like to ask that you not contact this man with any negative remarks, since it is me he wrote to with information, I have to respect that and now I feel as though I should NOT have forwarded his message...I should have respected that those emails were from him to me, I did not mean to drag him into this group and I will email him personally and apologize. I will not forward anything else he may send me simply because of this foolishness. Patti > >Reply-To: egroups >To: " egroups " <egroups> >Subject: RE: Fwd: bile duct cancer >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:50:06 +0100 > > > > >now, let's just say he did write a book and was selling it > >actually, its not really a book (its a 50 page ms-Word document).. >and he sent me a copy free.. > >I'll read it closely and hope to find it useful.. >if anyone else wants a copy I've put it on my web site for download,fetch >it >at: > >http://texan.dk/DonnaStory.doc > >I did not intend to upset you.. >I strive to not upset anyone.. >please forgive me.. > >DenverD: husband of Mette (44), UC '73, dx PSC 6/2000 >alive in Denmark <www.Texan.dk> > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 >now, let's just say he did write a book and was selling it actually, its not really a book (its a 50 page ms-Word document).. and he sent me a copy free.. I'll read it closely and hope to find it useful.. if anyone else wants a copy I've put it on my web site for download,fetch it at: http://texan.dk/DonnaStory.doc I did not intend to upset you.. I strive to not upset anyone.. please forgive me.. DenverD: husband of Mette (44), UC '73, dx PSC 6/2000 alive in Denmark <www.Texan.dk> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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