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could Please give me a break

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I'd love to unsubscribe you, but I can't.

Our moderator Jim could probably BAN you, but you're supposed to

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could Please give me a break

don't you feel you are too much

i received your email so many every day.

i never contact with you.

please do not send again. Ok?

Dental -- Remineralization of teeth

Barbara Finney wrote:

>>snip<<

I have heard that

cavities can regenerate if you remineralize your teeth but I have no

clue what is meant by that, the only reference I have to that is the

use of flourides and I spit on that idea.

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Hi Barbara,

I spit on that idea, too -- nice oral pun!

While nosing around on that OraMedia site you provided Vilik (great site,

thanks), I stumbled

onto some demineralization and remineralization info. It was a link on

one of the product information pages.

Go to http://mizar5.com/demin.htm

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I just wanted to check in.... as it has been awhile.

I've not been feeling well.

I wanted to reply to & Don. I am so outraged

at the way you were treated by this doctor! I hear

more and more the horror stories of how doctors are

treating patients and it really P's me off! I've been

in that same situation more than I can count and the

sad thing is, nothing is being done about it!!! I

actually put off going to doctors unless it's

absolutely necessary, and it shouldn't be that way AT

ALL! These doctors are sure giving all doctors a bad

rap!! I know people that won't even go to the

doctors, because of the way they've been treated. I'm

slowly losing my faith in most doctors (Not all, but

most!)

I also wanted to ask if anyone has heard of a

" Chodeldochal Cyst? " My 27 yr old sister was recently

hospitalized for severe pain and it turned out to be

her gallbladder AND pancreatitis! I thought only

people who drank heavy got pancreatitis.......boy was

I wrong! She was hospitalized a year ago with

Pancreatitis also. Now the doctors (she's got nice

Dr.'s :) ) want her to go into one of the

hospitals in Boston, because she has this Chodeldochal

cyst and the condition is extremely rare AND

hereditary! I've got similiar (not the rare one!)

symptoms, one being a dilated bile duct (will probably

have gallbladder out), and the other being a cyst on

my left kidney.........she has them on both kidneys,

as well as my dad, who has a cyst on both kidneys too!

This is all new to me and was wondering if anyone has

info on this or advice? I'd greatly appreciate your

help :) I do hope your ALL doing well and wish you a

Great Friday, TGIF!! hugs, Marie

ps- Good Luck & Don! Godd Luck to all with

your upcoming Dr visits, labs, etc..

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> Don & <handd1@...> wrote:

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>

> This has been one of the worst days we've had in

> a LONG time. Ok...here

> goes. This morning, Don still had hives, so they

> told us to go in to the

> office. We met with his radiation oncologist,

> who conferred with his

> chemotherapy oncologist, to see if they could

> figure out what has been

> causing his hives. They had NO idea, so they

> sent Don to this

> dermatologist

> (the only one our insurance would pay for) and

> this guy was a JERK. He

> told

> us that it wasn't his problem, so we should just

> march ourselves back

> down

> to the oncologist's office. !!!!!!! He gave Don

> a prescription for

> prednisone, but said not to take it until we

> asked the oncologist if it

> was

> okay. I asked him if it would be okay to put

> hydrocortisone on Don's

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Just a warning...on the list of AOEC drs....I was sent to the Phoenix one by my school district. After a cursory examination, I was told that buildings do NOT make people sick...and that there was NO WAY I could be experiencing other chemical sensitivities after exposure to a specific chemical. During the exam he asked me to repeat 3 words and then said...."Well, obviously you don't have any short term memory loss." ???? My first warning should have been when I called to set the appt. and was told that he "worked for the District," NOT me. So please...be careful. Try to get info on specific drs before trusting that they have your best interest at heart.

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In a message dated 6/16/01 5:03:35 PM, 9335@... writes:

> During

>the exam he asked me to repeat 3 words and then said.... " Well, obviously

>you

>don't have any short term memory loss. " ????

and he is not supposed to ask you to repeat them back right away and is also

supposed to ask you to say them backwards and count in increments of 7 back

from 100 as well as several other techniques like spelling words backwards

and if he is only an MD...neuropsych testing is supposed to be done by

someone who specializes in it not your everyday neuro either and testing is

extensive as you well probably know.....

Good Luck,

Donna

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I agree EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION with the toxicologists.

A toxicologist on that list, trained by NIOSH no less, wrote his office notes with a chisel tip magic marker in a very small examining room! When I realized why my head was hurting so badly and I felt faint, I asked this doctor if he could please use another writing tool as I was pretty sure the one he was using was making me sick, he laughed and said he was almost finished...2 pages later I ended up in tears from the pain and neurological affects. He was an IME for a work comp claim, and even though he put me to the ultimate test with the "solvent" pen, he diagnosed somotoform so the company could be relieved of causing my chemical injury.

Of course when you have OSHA stating that MCS clearly is not work related, why would any toxicologist, particularly those paid by industry, say that it was.

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Osha states that " MCS is not clearly occupationally related. "

and also states

" For more detailed information about a specific chemical which may be

suspected as part of the disorder, see the Technical Links pages for:

* Hazardous & Toxic Chemicals

* Sampling & Analysis

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I have attached the page and you can also access the link.

OSHA Regulations (Standards - 29 CFR) - Table of Contents <A

HREF= " http://www.osha.gov " >www.osha.gov</A>

Multiple Chemical Sensitivities

Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS) is a highly controversial entity. Some

people believe that exposure to a chemical or chemicals triggers a symptom

complex which has been called MCS. Those symptoms occur in many organ

systems. No physical signs can be found consistently in MCS patients. There

are a number of synonyms for MCS, including: 20th Century Disease,

Environmental Illness, Total Allergy Syndrome, idiopathic environmental

illness and Chemical AIDS. MCS appears to affect young women at a

proportionally greater rate than men or older women.

Recognition

* A number of definitions have been proposed, although there is still no

consensus definition for multiple chemical sensitivities. However, the most

widely accepted definition of MCS is Cullen’s:

" MCS is an acquired disorder characterized by recurrent symptoms, referable

to multiple organ systems, occurring in response to demonstrable exposure to

many chemically unrelated compounds at doses far below those established in

the general population to cause harmful effects. No single widely accepted

test of physiologic function can be correlated with symptoms " (Cullen, 1987).

* Among the proposed theories are dysfunction of the immune system, and

neurologic abnormalities – specifically chemical sensitization of the limbic

system – and various psychologic theories. To date, no studies have validated

any theory.

* A number of medical professional organizations have issued position

statements on this condition. Most of these groups indicate the lack of

scientific and clinical evidence supporting any theory or treatment regimen.

They call for rigorous scientific, placebo-controlled, double blind studies

subject to the same exacting peer review as other medical investigations.

Those organizations include the American College of Physicians (1989), the

American Academy of Allergy and Immunology (1986), the California Medical

Association (1986) and the American College of Occupational and Environmental

Medicine (1991 and 1993).

* The American Academy of Environmental Medicine characterizes MCS as an

" ecologic illness that is a poly-symptomatic, multi-system, chronic disorder

characterized by adverse reactions to environmental excitants, as they are

modified by individual susceptibility in terms of specific adaptations. The

excitants are present in air, water, drugs, and our habitats.... " Physicians

who diagnose MCS and treat patients with various protocols have been referred

to as clinical ecologists. A number of those practitioners founded the

Society for Clinical Ecology in 1968. That organization became the American

Academy of Environmental Medicine in 1984.

* A Report on Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS). This report provides a

public health evaluation of the extent and nature of MCS and recommends

future actions for federal agencies to consider. It is not intended to

evaluate existing diagnostic and treatment methods, nor is it intended to

provide guidelines for individual clinical management of those with symptoms

of MCS.

Evaluation

* Due to the lack of definite information on this subject evaluation must

be performed by a physician knowledgeable of the symptoms of this condition.

* For more detailed information about a specific chemical which may be

suspected as part of the disorder, see the Technical Links pages for:

* Hazardous & Toxic Chemicals

* Sampling & Analysis

Controls

* Because the cause of MCS is not currently known, control methods could

only be based on unproven theories. MCS is not clearly occupationally related.

Compliance

* Because the cause and effective control methods for MCS are not known and

because it is not clearly occupationally related, there is no OSHA

enforcement related to this condition. However, OSHA does regulate exposures

to specific chemical hazards. See the Technical Links page for Hazardous &

Toxic Substances.

Other

* Multiple Chemical Sensitivities – NIOSH 800# Information Packet. NIOSH

documents available on-line or that can be mailed as a packet by calling

1-800-35-NIOSH.

* There is a tremendous amount of information available about MCS on the

Internet. The following links are to selected sites.

* Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. National Research Council (1992), 200

pages. In 1991 the National Research Council sponsored a workshop at the

request of the Environmental Protection Agency. This document contains papers

submitted for the workshop.

* Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, Environmental Tobacco Smoke, and Indoor

Air Quality. American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine

(ACOEM), (1991), 2 pages. ACOEM includes the largest number of Occupational

and Environmental Medicine practitioners in the United States. ACOEM is one

of the professional organizations that has reviewed the scientific

information regarding MCS. This document is their position paper on MCS.

* The Duke University Occupational and Environmental Medicine site includes

the Occ-Env-Med-L electronic mail-list and forum. Questions can be submitted

for discussion on this list.

* American Academy of Allergy and Immunology, Executive Committee (1986).

Clinical Ecology. J. Allergy Clin Immunology; 78: 269-270.

* American College of Physicians (1989). Clinical Ecology. Ann. Int. Med.,

111:1268-178.

* American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine Board of

Directors (1991). ACOEM Statement of Multiple Chemical Hypersensitivity

Syndrome, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, Environmental Tobacco smoke, and

Indoor Air Quality (1993). Board approval of an additional statement:

Multiple Chemical Sensitivities.

* California Medical Association Scientific Board Task Force on Clinical

Ecology (1986). Clinical Ecology Critical Appraisal. West. J. Med., 144:

239-245.

* Cullen MR. (1987). The worker with multiple chemical sensitivities: an

overview. Occ. Med. State Art Rev., 2: 655-661.

* National Research Council, Commission on Life Sciences, Board on

Environmental Studies and Toxicology, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities – A

Workshop. National Academy Press (1992).

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In a message dated 5/25/02 7:47:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Autism_in_Girls writes:

> Sounds like your hard work is paying off getting an advocate and so

> forth. You also have excelent insurance to be paying for OT and speech

> twice a week. I have my son getting an hour a week speech but my insurance

> only pays for 20 visits so now its two choices husband quit job and go on

> Colorado medicaid or Scotish Rites. So we chose Scotish Rites.

> Its looking like I have some people on my side for services and we

> are all going in as a group to file a complaint federally!

> Charlene

Hi Charlene,

We are in Massachusetts and yes, we do have excellent insurance. When my

older daughter needed speech just for articulation (she is NT) however, the

insurance only gave us 20 visits. But because of 's DX, she gets

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Does any one know anything about the vita-mix. I have a web tv unit

and cant get the video part on their sight to work for me. I need a

juicer that works. Is the vita-mix a juicer because the picture looks

like a blender. Does it take whole carrots. What is it any way.

Z.

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How do you build shape and not big muscles? I don't want to look like a body

builder, but definately need to lose weight (only about 15-20 pounds) and

gain some shape to my body. How do I figure out what exercises to do? Do I

just start lifting weights (I can't afford new equipment or healthclub) and

then when I get where I want to be, just keep doing those exercises without

adding more weight?

I currently have a weight bench and some weights. I also have a stepper

machine (but don't use it since I don't want fat calfs). Also because of

food allergies, I can't do any of the supplements.

Thanks for your advice.

Terina

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I had an aortic valve replaced in 1990. I had scoliosis surgery in 1981 but

all of my rods had already been removed. I had a double curve and there was

no problem with the fusion. mary

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yes, I have strange dark brown patches too, I told my rheummy and he said it was related to autoimmune disease and sun exposure. Usually right before a bad flare of a particular joint or area I will get the rash over the joints that are going to be effected and it itches really bad.

, I also got bad headaches on MTX as well as Enbrel. I was told it was a pretty normal side effect of Enbrel. Since I am no longer taking either I have not had any headaches at all!

Toni

In a message dated 11/8/2004 10:40:12 PM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

From: john no_way <kentuckycowboy1@...>Subject: Re: Questionshelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:Hello! I wanted to ask all of you if you have seen any changes in the color of your skin in small patches anywhere on your body. I showed my ra dr a while ago, the patch on my left wrist, and I noticed last night, I have a huge one on the side of my left thigh. Does anyone out there have this? ~Hello shelly, not differant colors but since he uped my mtx this this time i've got a bad rash on the back of my shoulders about to itch me like the mange hehe but i didnt get a bad head ache sunday this time !! and thanks Marcie for the link looks interesting ! later john

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Jeanetta

I had a nice surprise in my mail box today. I recieved a 10 year pin from

PTCB. The pin is very nice. I will wear it to work tomorrow to see if anyone

notices it.

Thanks

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: Jeanetta Mastron

2. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: Jeanetta Mastron

3. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: Jeanetta Mastron

4. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: Jeanetta Mastron

5. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: " nutterbutter818 "

6. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: " nutterbutter818 "

7. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

8. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

9. Jeanetta Mastron recommends Edmund's Newsletter!

From: " Edmund M. , M.S., Pharm.D. "

10. I found this on Edmund's Newsletter

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

11. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: " nutterbutter818 "

12. Re: Jeanetta Mastron recommends Edmund's Newsletter!

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

13. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

14. Study Group Members READ this for LAW question on PTCB exam!

From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry "

15. Re: New Orleans and NPTA

From: karin t

16. Re: quiz problem on Joe Medinas Site

From: " microword77 "

17. Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

From: " nutterbutter818 "

18. the religion of peace

From: " nader "

19. Recertification process

From: " Janet McGregor Liles "

20. Re: the religion of peace

From: Abe Youngworth

21. Re: the religion of peace

From: " microword77 "

22. Re: the religion of peace

From: " Shirley Ellisor "

23. Re: the religion of peace

From: LESLIE DESPENZA

24. Keep it pharmacy related.

From: " doracpht "

25. Re: Recertification process

From: karin t

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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:11:33 -0800 (PST)

From: Jeanetta Mastron

Subject: Creditiing via automation Re: Reusing/Redistributing Used/Unused

Medication????

Yes Karin ! recall cediting until the cows cam home all the prn meds and refused

meds, or meds not given because doctor changed orders et that came back in the

cassette via paper and on computer BEFORE the automation.

So my question is this:due to automation such as Pyxis drawers, if a pt refuses

the med and the nurse wants to get it back into the Pyxis or back to Rx for

credit, what is the prcedure? Is it simple? Can the Rn go back tothe dedicated

computer or Pyxis and return and credit the med? If so is it electronically

'set' sich that ONLY the drawer for the drug that was going to be given to the

pts willopen after the Rn enters the pt name for credit? If so how does the

equipment know that that is exatly what he or she is returning? Inother words

where is the quality control that what is in the bin or being returned to the

bin in the equipment correcttly or accurately done? Who if anyone would check

this work?

One could ask the same of the tech's work, who checks it. In the 'old days',

thecassette fill would be checked by the RPh, who checks that the fill of the

Pyxis is correct? Are there sporatic checks by the RPh? or is the RN check at

time of dispensing from the equipment and administration sufficient and have

replaced tech being checked by RPh but now being checked by Rn.

Thanks for your answers in advance folks!

Jeanetta CPhT

karin t wrote:

I can answer the first part. I work at a hospital,

and any meds that are returned are credited back to

the patient. if the meds are still in its sealed and

unused condition we can re-use it for another patient.

due to the limitations on our computer system, if the

nurses hoard it or keep it up there for whatever

reason more than 2 days after it wasn't given we

cannot credit the dose back. if the patient was on

the med recently and the dose isn't creditable we will

take the most distant dose we can credit, so that the

patient has less chance of being overcharged.

--- cphtgenius@... wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I recieved the message below yesterday and I am a

little confused about it. Is anyone familiar with

redistribution of unused medication? It looks to me

like a few things are happening:

1. Hospitals/NursingFacility/AssistedLivingFacility

can re-dispense medications that were not used by a

patient and sent back to the pharmacy for whatever the

reason. But my question is this: Was the first

> patient charged for the medication even though they

> didn't use it? If yes, isn't the institution

> double-dipping by charging another patient for that

> same medication? Why (in Ohio) can the institution

> charge up to 200% of the Medicaid professional

> dispensing fee to cover restocking and dispensing?

> I don't get that at all. The pharmacy charges once

> for dispensing the drug, and then again to return

> the unused medication to the pharmacy and again to

> re-dispense it? Please enlighten me.

>

> 2. The second part of the article is about a CVS in

> Maine that allowed patients to return unused

> medication to the pharmacy for disposal. Is this

> just for environmental purposes? If the patient

> can't dispose of the medication themselves through

> the garbage or by flushing it down the toilet for

> environmental purposes, what happens to all the

> out-dated drugs we return to the warehouse on a

> regular basis? How are they disposed of?

>

> Dumb questions I never actually gave much thought to

> before.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> Good afternoon ,

> More states are considering pharmacy donation

> programs. Although we wrote about Rhode Island and

> Ohio bills/laws earlier this year, I think the

> movement toward redistribution (supply change shift)

> of unused medications merits further coverage. Do

> you agree?

> Colorado follows 14 other states in its introduction

> of a drug donation/redistribution program.

> Legislation (H.B. 1131) introduced in Colorado would

> authorize pharmacists to re-dispense medications to

> patients of a hospital, nursing facility, or

> assisted living facility as long as the medication

> was originally dispensed to a patient of that

> facility and was unused. Read the legislation here.

> Bills dealing with unused or donated prescription

> drugs have been introduced in 14 other states:

> Arkansas, Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas,

> land, Maine, Minnesota, New York, Ohio,

> Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Virginia and Wyoming. Ohio,

> however, has had its program in existence for over

> one year now. I will get more information about the

> success of their program and report it to you. A

> question of special interest is who covers the

> redistribution costs. The Ohio law allows a

> pharmacy, hospital or nonprofit clinic to charge the

> recipient of a donated drug a maximum of 200% of the

> Medicaid professional dispensing fee to cover

> restocking and dispensing costs.

> If other states follow, this supply change shift

> will surely change pharmacy as we know it.

> Here's another story that could be a harbinger of

> things to come: On Saturday, February 5,

> CVS/pharmacy held an innovative, free-of-charge

> medicine disposal program at its store in South

> Portland, Maine.

>

> Through this collection program, the first of its

> kind in the nation, consumers were invited to bring

> their expired or unwanted prescription and

> over-the-counter medications to the South Portland

> CVS for environmentally-safe disposal.

>

> By the end of the day on Saturday, residents from 17

> communities in Maine brought in 55,000 pills in 700

> medicine containers, for a total of 50 gallons of

> unwanted medication.

> One more newsbyte on a potential change in the

> distribution of drugs. By many estimates, each year

> about $20 billion worth of drugs get reverse

> distributed (returned for credit or for waste

> elimination, a.k.a. pharmaceutical returns). A

> change to this aspect of the supply chain would be

> remarkable. We feel confident that the patented

> technology of Pharmacy Returns OneSource will

> revolutionize pharmaceutical returns - putting more

> profit more often onto the bottom line of

> pharmacies. (Sign up for early notification of the

> public launch of this service in Spring 2005.)

>

> --

> To love what you do and feel that

> it matters - how could anything

> be more fun? -- Graham

>

> . . . for my heart rejoiced in

> all my labour . . . Ecclesiastes

> 2:10

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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CONGRATULATIONS TO LESLIE!!

Wish we had a photo of that!

I missed it by 3 tests I am November 1996!

Love ya

Jeanetta

> Jeanetta

> I had a nice surprise in my mail box today. I recieved a 10

year pin from PTCB. The pin is very nice. I will wear it to work

tomorrow to see if anyone notices it.

> Thanks

>

>

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Hello Rowena,

Sadly, not usually. There are a few retail stockists (there's one near me that

stocks Coconut Connections but too throat-catchy for me) but they are as rare as

hen's teeth.

I always order online.

Bev (South Wales, UK)

From: " Rowena " <newses@...>

Subject: Re: VCNO in the UK

Can someone in the UK tell me whether one can usually buy VCNO in the health

food shops there? I'm travelling light

next month and would like to avoid carrying my own supply if I can. I know

I can mail order it there, but that won't suit.

Rowena

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Jeanne

Yellow in the oil is an indication that your vco is no

good at all. Genuine good vco is clear as water and

must not contain any " floaters " of any kind whether

brown or yellow or any color for that matter.

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This is an extract from the Lawrence website: Do you accept students with Autism?Lawrence does not accept students for whom the lead diagnosis is Autism. wrote: Autism - Northeast Ohio, Support Messages In This Digest (19 Messages) 1a. Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., From: Lynnette P. 1b. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., From: If you want to know.. Ask! 1c. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., From: 1@... 1d. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., From: C M 1e. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., From: mybusyhouse23 2a. Re: Special-Needs Kids and Special Occasions.htm From: 2b. Re: Special-Needs Kids and Special Occasions.htm From: Laurie Kowalski 3. fwd Msg: Open House at Lawrence School From: 1@... 4. Inspirational video from YouTube...<very nicely done> From: Shane 5. One more reason dad's need to be involved... From: Shane 6. Check out Special-Needs Kids and Special Occasions From: 1@... 7. Re: teeth brushing advice From: 1@... 8. Re: [sPAM] [ ] Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house From: Becky 9. Re: gluten free diet From: 1@... 10a. Anyone know of Dr Ellen M Weinhouse? From: becky griggs 10b. Re: Anyone know of Dr Ellen M Weinhouse? From: C M 10c. Re: Anyone know of Dr Ellen

M Weinhouse? From: C M 10d. Re: Anyone know of Dr Ellen M Weinhouse? From: becky griggs 11. Valuable info...<for familes and service providers> From: Shane View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., Posted by: "Lynnette P." mybusyhouse23@... mybusyhouse23 Tue Nov 7, 2006 7:01 am (PST) Hey group,sorry I haven't been online for like a year....but anyway.. I finally got a chance to check mail and complain about our TOILET PAPER crises!!!! Anyone have this problem??? ..my son is going through about 24 rolls of TP every week!!!! clogs the toilet...we've done everything we could think of to tell him use less please....anyone got any tips on what I can do???? if not, just let me know if I'm not the only one with a crisis like this..oh, and count us in on the Holiday pot luck dinner...where do I sign up?Thanks,Lynnette---------------------------------Sponsored LinkFor just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers

unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 1b. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., Posted by: "If you want to know.. Ask!" mystique2574@... mystique2574 Tue Nov 7, 2006 7:29 am (PST) Lynnette, Kiernan was doing this for awhile too..but we have since hid the toilet paper and now use those kandoo wipes...he pulls out just one since they are a bit tougher to pull out and uses that to wipe instead of the toilet paper... costs a bit more.. but we have actually saved money this way since we aren't buying TP all of the time... the other thing that worked was charmin i think it is will send a potty training kit to your house (i know.. beyond that..but) there is a guide that hooks to your TP roll that shows them how many sheets (4 i think) to pull off...since our kids usually do better with visual models, this seems to work well too... it's

free to get on their website too.. who doesn't love free!! Hope that helps!As for the holiday dinner.. just drop me an email.. rsvp'ing with how many kids you will be bringing with you, their names and if they are boys or girls... J-- In , "Lynnette P." <mybusyhouse23@...> wrote:>> Hey group,> > sorry I haven't been online for like a year....but anyway.. I finally got a chance to check mail and complain about our TOILET PAPER crises!!!! > Anyone have this problem??? ..my son is going through about 24 rolls of TP every week!!!! clogs the toilet...we've done everything we could think of to tell him use less please....anyone got any tips on what I can do???? if not, just let me know if I'm not the only one with a crisis like this..> > oh, and count us in on the

Holiday pot luck dinner...where do I sign up?> > Thanks,> > Lynnette> > > > > ---------------------------------> Sponsored Link> > For just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now.> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 1c. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house

aaaaaggggghhhh., Posted by: " 1@..." 1@... Tue Nov 7, 2006 8:54 am (PST) Hi Lynnette and ,, that is a great idea! And Lynnette, I can relate to what you are going through. My son has a bit of a TP issue too. Glad you mentioned it..that was a good topic. Maybe in the next potty trainning chat we can add this as a topic!Yours,nIn a message dated 11/7/06 10:29:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, mystique2574 writes:> Lynnette, > > Kiernan was doing this for awhile too..but we have since hid the > toilet paper

and now use those kandoo wipes...he pulls out just one > since they are a bit tougher to pull out and uses that to wipe > instead of the toilet paper... costs a bit more.. but we have > actually saved money this way since we aren't buying TP all of the > time... the other thing that worked was charmin i think it is will > send a potty training kit to your house (i know.. beyond that..but) > there is a guide that hooks to your TP roll that shows them how many > sheets (4 i think) to pull off...since our kids usually do better > with visual models, this seems to work well too... it's free to get > on their website too.. who doesn't love free!! Hope that helps!> > As for the holiday dinner.. just drop me an email.. rsvp'ing with how > many kids you will be bringing with you, their names and if they are > boys or girls... > > J> > -- In <A

HREF="mailto: %40"> </A>, "Lynnette P." <mybusyhouse23@...> > wrote:> >> > Hey group,> > > > sorry I haven't been online for like a year....but anyway.. I > finally got a chance to check mail and complain about our TOILET > PAPER crises!!!! > > Anyone have this problem??? ..my son is going through about 24 > rolls of TP every week!!!! clogs the toilet...we've done everything > we could think of to tell him use less please....anyone got any tips > on what I can do???? if not, just let me know if I'm not the only > one with a crisis like this..> > > > oh, and count us in on the Holiday pot luck dinner...where do I > sign up?> > > > Thanks,> > > > Lynnette>

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Messages in this topic (5) 1d. Re: Toilet Paper Crisis!!!! in my house aaaaaggggghhhh., Posted by: "C M" picklespaw@... christina_marotta Tue Nov 7, 2006 3:34 pm (PST) Lynnette - Bobby

used to do that as well! We told him he had to use 6 squares and 6 squares only! (when he used 4, he would soil his hands, and of course, he'd freak out about that! wouldn't we all!) I also told him he needed to wipe himself 3 times. When I told him this new "rule," he felt he had to observe it! So when he has attention issues, it can take him up to 30 minutes just to wipe himself - what with the counting to 6, counting to six 3 times, making sure each square is perfect, and the actual wiping! But he is almost compulsive about using exactly 6 perfect squares! Chris>> Well, we just heard back from the cleveland clinic's feeding clinic. They feel is to old to benefit from their program. They have given us a referal to a Ellen Weinhouse of Cleveland. I have never heard of her and do not know what she does. Anyone know anything about her?> Thanks for any help> Becky> > > Becky > Mother to , 16, Autism, Epilepsy, Cerebal Palsy, MR,

ADHD> > Everybody has barriers and obstacles. If you look at them as containing fences that don't allow you to advance, then you're going to be a failure. If you look at them as hurdles that strengthen you each time you go over one, then you're going to be a success. > Carson > Surgeon> > > ---------------------------------> Sponsored Link> > Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4) 10d. Re: Anyone know of Dr Ellen M Weinhouse? Posted by: "becky griggs" sleeplessohio@... sleeplessohio Tue Nov 7, 2006 4:52 pm (PST) Honestly I do not know anything about her. From what little I have been able to find online she is a PhD..but what of I have no idea. (this is where our daughter who just went back to school would say it means Patiently Waiting for a Degree) She is in with nna Zavarella PhD and Hess PhD. and is located at 14055 Cedar Rd Cleveland, which if I am looking at the map correctly is in the Unversity Heights area. I am clueless. I was hoping to find out something about her before I called her tomorrow. I hate making dry calls! I would guess if the Cleveland Clinic is referring us

there she must have a good rep, but I have never heard of her.Becky Mother to , 16, Autism, Epilepsy, Cerebal Palsy, MR, ADHDEverybody has barriers and obstacles. If you look at them as containing fences that don't allow you to advance, then you're going to be a failure. If you look at them as hurdles that strengthen you each time you go over one, then you're going to be a success. Carson Surgeon---------------------------------Sponsored LinkTry Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4) 11. Valuable info...<for familes and service providers> Posted by: "Shane " SMD@... smdscott141 Tue Nov 7, 2006 12:53 pm (PST) The running joke is, once parents figure out benefits available 'they' change the name so we don't know what to ask for anymore. Truthfully no one advertises what is available to it's like pulling teeth to find out.Here is a guide that is very helpful in some respects, but following the above joke some of it has change, at least in nam. What makes it still

valuable is that it either applies of gives you a starting point for asking questions and following a trail to what is available now...ShaneShane M.D. “Learning is like rowing up stream, to stop is to fall behind.”-Kung Fu Tze (Confucius) "Light travels faster than sound; this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak..." Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, today is a gift hence it is called the present. None of us is as smart as all of us Note: My purpose in sending on info is to never presume in this day and age that anyone has their finger on the pulse of all that is out there…remember the delete button is only inches away.Check out some of my work at: http://photos./smdscott141 *PDFs require Acrobat Reader for viewing. If you don't have Acrobat Reader installed on your computer, you can download a copy for free.Shane

M.D. "Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak..." Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, today is a gift hence it is called the present. *None of us is as smart as all of us*Check out some of my work at: http://photos./smdscott141 Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 8 New MembersVisit Your Group

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