Re: Social Security

[Guest guest]

I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

security where you get the forms.

I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

life.

You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

Service may know of someone who will do this. The

advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

are lawyers.

You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

disability advocate who does just that. Disability

and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

me thru the emotional aspect of this.

Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

your head under your arm go down fast without one of

these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

want to start by getting your medical records together

while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

discounted me for that.

Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

will be there with you.

It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

helpful, you can win this.

*¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

~StrykerMom~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- Mama Hubbard wrote:

> My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> Social Security

> Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> and what to do?

> I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> teeth.

> Jena

>

>

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- Hi all,

I'm struggling with this one too. I was denied the first time

too, I have yet to find someone I can count on to handle this. That

was good advice, doing it by yourself, those people are heartless. I

wish there were something set up to retrain those of us who might

still be productive if given the chance. Some states have vocational

rehab, but the hoops are almost as bad as disability.

When my career came to a halt we lost our butts. First my

insurance dropped me. It seems if you actually USE the health

insurance then you are a risk….go figure you might just need to use

it instead of just having to make the fat payments every month. We

lost everything except what we could carry. We had a nice new custom

home in Wyoming, a couple of nice trucks, mostly just a nice home

we'd worked hard for. We had to learn how to live on less than one

half of what we were used to. Thank God my wife has a career. We

took out tax return, sold our home, and bought a fixer upper with

down out of pocket. We refused to go back to a rental, we'd worked

too hard for too many years. We were able to roll that over and buy

this old farmstead. Still, the SS office could give a rat's a$$ if

we were on the street or not. This is America, we're not supposed to

have to live like that. You work hard your whole life, pay your

taxes, and for what? So they can tell me I don't qualify and then

send our tax dollars to Africa to educate folks over there to stop

screwing themselves to death (hiv) and to move where the food is. Or

they send the money someplace else where nobody has paid in a dime,

and hates America anyway. Wouldn't it be nice just once to be

treated like one of the good guys? Like hey, you've paid your dues,

you are an American, you want to BE an American, not just a resident

who wants access to our SSI, and welfare. Ok, I'll get off my soap

box now.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:58:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tommie_jones@... writes:

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2

yrs to get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

Oh how I wish I could get SSDI it sure would make life easier here...I did

read all the mails I have some sort of virus and its causing me a lot of

nausea which messes with my diabetes and my heart ads to the nausea...UGH I

would

rather have a broken foot then nausea it makes me feel so weak and ukkyi had

to go to the high school concert last night and I came home and slept 9

hours usually I sleep about 4 very late at night...I stayed home and raised

kids

we didn't want a sitter then I raised our granddaughter from her first breath

I thought I would go to work when she went to Jr high well I had my heart

attack/heart surgery when she was in 6th grade and there went my work history

so I cant even apply for SSD ..I could for ssi but that goes by household

income and my husband must work two jobs for all the medical bills and they

don't

consider what U pay ...I guess U mostly know the feeling it just seems worse

this time of year.

God bless and keep you all

Rose

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tommie, you always make me smile

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Everything seems worse financially this time of year. We always want to do more

than our finances will allow. I'm going to do good to pay for our dinner and

hopefully a gift for each of my son's. This is not our usual Christmas by any

means. I have never had a Christmas this lowly. I don't know what has happened,

but I think it's the cost of living. It seems the gas prices have raised

everything up so high that you can't readily see what's going on, but it sure

costs a lot to live. I praise God that my medical stuff is all paid 100% for my

son and I. Medicine included. I don't know what I'd do otherwise. I picked up

$1200 worth of medicine for us both today and that doesn't include putting 3 on

hold that weren't due yet, and it didn't cost me one red cent. Heck, over $400

of that was just pain meds. Nearly $500 was my son's alone. I just don't know

what I'd do if I didn't have the benefits I have. Praise the Lord! I read of the

hard time everyone has getting their meds and I just hurt for you all. This is

why I never talk about my meds, I'm embarrassed to say that mine are free. I

have co-pays for the first 4 months I think, then it's 100%. I don't know why,

and don't want to know why. lol It just is.

I'm sorry you can't get the SSI. It just really stinks.

Hugs

~Tommie

Re: Re: Social Security

In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:58:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tommie_jones@... writes:

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2

yrs to get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

Oh how I wish I could get SSDI it sure would make life easier here...I did

read all the mails I have some sort of virus and its causing me a lot of

nausea which messes with my diabetes and my heart ads to the nausea...UGH I

would

rather have a broken foot then nausea it makes me feel so weak and ukkyi had

to go to the high school concert last night and I came home and slept 9

hours usually I sleep about 4 very late at night...I stayed home and raised

kids

we didn't want a sitter then I raised our granddaughter from her first breath

I thought I would go to work when she went to Jr high well I had my heart

attack/heart surgery when she was in 6th grade and there went my work history

so I cant even apply for SSD ..I could for ssi but that goes by household

income and my husband must work two jobs for all the medical bills and they

don't

consider what U pay ...I guess U mostly know the feeling it just seems worse

this time of year.

God bless and keep you all

Rose

.

[Guest guest]

awww you're welcome

~Tommie

Re: Social Security

Thanks Tommie, you always make me smile

[Guest guest]

Rose I know exactly what you are talking about. my daughter was not able to draw

until she turned 18. One time I applied and we were $10.00 over the limit and

that is because my husband spent way more time working than at home. If we could

have lived for a couple of months on just a 40 hour paycheck we would have for

sure been under.

He got laid off from his job one time and I went and applied for everything I

could thing of. We still could not get anything because we were not at least 2

months behind on our utilities. I ask the man that interviewed me just what were

we suppose to do and he told me to divorce my husband and live with him and my

daughter would be eligible for everything. What has our country gone to.!!!!!

I do have a cousin that worked some but never paid anything in. Guess you could

say he got paid under the table. And it took awhile but he is drawing a small

amount something like $400.00 a month. but he got Medicaid or Medicare one for

her health care.

Jena

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My E-mail

Re: Re: Social Security

In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:58:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tommie_jones@... writes:

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2

yrs to get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

Oh how I wish I could get SSDI it sure would make life easier here...I did

read all the mails I have some sort of virus and its causing me a lot of

nausea which messes with my diabetes and my heart ads to the nausea...UGH I

would

rather have a broken foot then nausea it makes me feel so weak and ukkyi had

to go to the high school concert last night and I came home and slept 9

hours usually I sleep about 4 very late at night...I stayed home and raised

kids

we didn't want a sitter then I raised our granddaughter from her first breath

I thought I would go to work when she went to Jr high well I had my heart

attack/heart surgery when she was in 6th grade and there went my work history

so I cant even apply for SSD ..I could for ssi but that goes by household

income and my husband must work two jobs for all the medical bills and they

don't

consider what U pay ...I guess U mostly know the feeling it just seems worse

this time of year.

God bless and keep you all

Rose

[Guest guest]

the cost of meds are unreal. I went to my Dr at his home office which is about

40 miles from my house with my last really BAD flair up and a drug rep was there

and was telling my dr about this new med. Called Oramorph. So, my Dr gave me a

prescription for it and the drug rep said the only drug store he knew for sure

had it was across the street. One of these little independent drug stores. Not

many of them anymore. but anyways I went there to get me script. and they didn't

take my ins. or my husbands. I was hurting so bad I pulled out my credit card

and paid full price for it without even checking anywhere else. The med was $

188.00 for a month supply. I almost fell over I was used to the most a $ 30.00

co-pay. The never script I got for it I took it to Eckerd's here close to

home. Turns out the med was Morphine Sulfate CR 30mg. and I paid about 25.00 for

it. now you talk about sick. I was. could not believe I had paid that gosh awful

price.

Jena

~:~Jena~:~

My Home Page

My E-mail

Re: Re: Social Security

In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:58:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tommie_jones@... writes:

I feel your anger and frustration, I'm right there with you. It took me 2

yrs to get SSDI. But I won!! Good luck!

Hugs.

~Tommie

Oh how I wish I could get SSDI it sure would make life easier here...I did

read all the mails I have some sort of virus and its causing me a lot of

nausea which messes with my diabetes and my heart ads to the nausea...UGH I

would

rather have a broken foot then nausea it makes me feel so weak and ukkyi had

to go to the high school concert last night and I came home and slept 9

hours usually I sleep about 4 very late at night...I stayed home and raised

kids

we didn't want a sitter then I raised our granddaughter from her first breath

I thought I would go to work when she went to Jr high well I had my heart

attack/heart surgery when she was in 6th grade and there went my work history

so I cant even apply for SSD ..I could for ssi but that goes by household

income and my husband must work two jobs for all the medical bills and they

don't

consider what U pay ...I guess U mostly know the feeling it just seems worse

this time of year.

God bless and keep you all

Rose

.

[Guest guest]

Jena, Here is one thing I know something about! First off you are going to

have to be patient because it will take some time but just don't give up!If

you have a disability situation they will send you to a social security

doctor who very often will turn you down forcing you to get written

documentationof your condition from your own doctor to submit at your

disability hearing.If you don't have a disability I'm not sure of what steps

you have to go through.In either case I think you will find that the people

at your local social security office are very kind and helpful if you go see

them in person .Forget about trying to get info over the phone if possible ,

The routine you have to go through to talk to the right person is so time

consuming you may as well just figure it is going to take at least acouple

of hours but is much faster in the long run. Lastly and this is very

important, ask around and get a good social securityattorney to help you

Don't just pick one out of the phone book if possible and also get one who

deal s largely in social security claims Don't just use the family attorney

say for example one who slso handles divorce cases or corporate law.Also the

right attorney absolutely gets no money up front!they get paid at the end

and ther e are stadardized fees yhat they charge that are paid only when

andi f you are all done.Try not to get discouraged if it takes some time

because you get paid retro actively from when you first applied an

dgenerally speaking you get a nice lump sum acouple of months after the

decision is made in your favor.Of course everybody has a different set of

circumstances but your attorney will explain it all to you step by step . I

hope this helps you get your benefits Good luck. Don in Michigan.

>

> I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

> knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> security where you get the forms.

>

> I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

> life.

>

> You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

> pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

> and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

> First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

> the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

> work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

>

> I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

> who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

> judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

> You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

> sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> are lawyers.

>

> You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

> disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

> me thru the emotional aspect of this.

>

> Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

> your head under your arm go down fast without one of

> these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

> and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

> from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> want to start by getting your medical records together

> while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

>

> I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

> as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> discounted me for that.

>

> Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

> it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

> at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

> will be there with you.

>

> It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

> to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

> helpful, you can win this.

>

> *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

>

> ~StrykerMom~

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- Mama Hubbard <mamahubbard@... <mamahubbard%40bellsouth.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> > Social Security

> > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> > and what to do?

> > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> > teeth.

> > Jena

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I had no trouble at all getting my ssdi but it only paid back payfor 6 mon.,not

from the time time you were disabled,I don't know I guess if you have a lawyer

you get more but it takes more time so I just took mine and was very thankful I

got it so quick. I did everything over the internet and I had a copy of all my

medical records,but did'nt have to use them,in fact my back pay was deposited

about 2 wks before I knew I had been approved. Wishing you the best of luck.

Thanks

Don Goble wrote: Jena, Here is one thing I know something

about! First off you are going to

have to be patient because it will take some time but just don't give up!If

you have a disability situation they will send you to a social security

doctor who very often will turn you down forcing you to get written

documentationof your condition from your own doctor to submit at your

disability hearing.If you don't have a disability I'm not sure of what steps

you have to go through.In either case I think you will find that the people

at your local social security office are very kind and helpful if you go see

them in person .Forget about trying to get info over the phone if possible ,

The routine you have to go through to talk to the right person is so time

consuming you may as well just figure it is going to take at least acouple

of hours but is much faster in the long run. Lastly and this is very

important, ask around and get a good social securityattorney to help you

Don't just pick one out of the phone book if possible and also get one who

deal s largely in social security claims Don't just use the family attorney

say for example one who slso handles divorce cases or corporate law.Also the

right attorney absolutely gets no money up front!they get paid at the end

and ther e are stadardized fees yhat they charge that are paid only when

andi f you are all done.Try not to get discouraged if it takes some time

because you get paid retro actively from when you first applied an

dgenerally speaking you get a nice lump sum acouple of months after the

decision is made in your favor.Of course everybody has a different set of

circumstances but your attorney will explain it all to you step by step . I

hope this helps you get your benefits Good luck. Don in Michigan.

>

> I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard but I

> knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> security where you get the forms.

>

> I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of my

> life.

>

> You do not pay them till you are paid. You get back

> pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for this

> and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

> First gave my kids a little vacation for holding down

> the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try to

> work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

>

> I advise you to start out looking for such an advocate

> who does all the paper work, stand up in front of the

> judge for you and all in all take you step by step.

> You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make darn

> sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> are lawyers.

>

> You can try something like Binder and Binder or find a

> disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there for

> me thru the emotional aspect of this.

>

> Your chances of winning disability unless you carry

> your head under your arm go down fast without one of

> these people. So do yourself a favor and start there

> and let them do the forms. Have some doctors opinions

> from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> want to start by getting your medical records together

> while you shop for your disability advocate/lawyer.

>

> I hope you find one that was as supportive and helpful

> as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> discounted me for that.

>

> Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just keep

> it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't stop

> at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> judge like I did, then you just do it. Your advocate

> will be there with you.

>

> It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers tend

> to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor is

> helpful, you can win this.

>

> *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

>

> ~StrykerMom~

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- Mama Hubbard >

> wrote:

>

> > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply for

> > Social Security

> > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About how

> > and what to do?

> > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling eye

> > teeth.

> > Jena

> >

> >

>

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>

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Over the internet?!!? Just like that? That's a new

one on me! Are we talking about the same government??

*¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

~StrykerMom~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- shirley jd wrote:

> I had no trouble at all getting my ssdi but it only

> paid back payfor 6 mon.,not from the time time you

> were disabled,I don't know I guess if you have a

> lawyer you get more but it takes more time so I just

> took mine and was very thankful I got it so quick. I

> did everything over the internet and I had a copy of

> all my medical records,but did'nt have to use

> them,in fact my back pay was deposited about 2 wks

> before I knew I had been approved. Wishing you the

> best of luck. Thanks

>

> Don Goble wrote: Jena, Here is

> one thing I know something about! First off you are

> going to

> have to be patient because it will take some time

> but just don't give up!If

> you have a disability situation they will send you

> to a social security

> doctor who very often will turn you down forcing you

> to get written

> documentationof your condition from your own doctor

> to submit at your

> disability hearing.If you don't have a disability

> I'm not sure of what steps

> you have to go through.In either case I think you

> will find that the people

> at your local social security office are very kind

> and helpful if you go see

> them in person .Forget about trying to get info over

> the phone if possible ,

> The routine you have to go through to talk to the

> right person is so time

> consuming you may as well just figure it is going to

> take at least acouple

> of hours but is much faster in the long run. Lastly

> and this is very

> important, ask around and get a good social

> securityattorney to help you

> Don't just pick one out of the phone book if

> possible and also get one who

> deal s largely in social security claims Don't just

> use the family attorney

> say for example one who slso handles divorce cases

> or corporate law.Also the

> right attorney absolutely gets no money up

> front!they get paid at the end

> and ther e are stadardized fees yhat they charge

> that are paid only when

> andi f you are all done.Try not to get discouraged

> if it takes some time

> because you get paid retro actively from when you

> first applied an

> dgenerally speaking you get a nice lump sum acouple

> of months after the

> decision is made in your favor.Of course everybody

> has a different set of

> circumstances but your attorney will explain it all

> to you step by step . I

> hope this helps you get your benefits Good luck. Don

> in Michigan.

>

>

> >

> > I remembered when I had to...I'm such a die hard

> but I

> > knew I couldn't keep it up so I went to social

> > security where you get the forms.

> >

> > I rapidly learned you don't do this on your own. A

> > social service lady turned me onto a lady who is a

> > disablity advocate. The biggest and best relief of

> my

> > life.

> >

> > You do not pay them till you are paid. You get

> back

> > pay from the time you applied. She got $4000 for

> this

> > and I had a lot more left to use and used it well.

> > First gave my kids a little vacation for holding

> down

> > the fort fresh out of high school so I didn't try

> to

> > work. You are suspect if you can work at all.

> >

> > I advise you to start out looking for such an

> advocate

> > who does all the paper work, stand up in front of

> the

> > judge for you and all in all take you step by

> step.

> > You don't get paid...they don't get paid. Make

> darn

> > sure that is the deal. I never paid a dime till I

> > won. You should not have to...so shop. Social

> > Service may know of someone who will do this. The

> > advocate is non lawyer but they act like one. Some

> > are lawyers.

> >

> > You can try something like Binder and Binder or

> find a

> > disability advocate who does just that. Disability

> > and nothing else like mine, and can hold your hand

> > thru this. Mine was a dream and was always there

> for

> > me thru the emotional aspect of this.

> >

> > Your chances of winning disability unless you

> carry

> > your head under your arm go down fast without one

> of

> > these people. So do yourself a favor and start

> there

> > and let them do the forms. Have some doctors

> opinions

> > from your chart handy. It helps them. So you may

> > want to start by getting your medical records

> together

> > while you shop for your disability

> advocate/lawyer.

> >

> > I hope you find one that was as supportive and

> helpful

> > as mine was. I handed her $4000 in cash and she

> > discounted me for that.

> >

> > Good luck. Be ready for refusal. Unless you are so

> > crippled it's obvious they will refuse you. Just

> keep

> > it up. Your advocate will keep it going. Don't

> stop

> > at any refusal. If you have to go before a grumpy

> > judge like I did, then you just do it. Your

> advocate

> > will be there with you.

> >

> > It took me two years. Don't give up. The fakers

> tend

> > to give up but if you keep at it and your doctor

> is

> > helpful, you can win this.

> >

> > *¬*.¸¸.·´¨`»*«´¨`·.¸¸.*¬*

> > On the internet, no knows you're a cat.

> >

> > ~StrykerMom~

> >

>

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> > --- Mama Hubbard >

> > wrote:

> >

> > > My husband and Daddy have been after me to apply

> for

> > > Social Security

> > > Disablitly. Can I get some input on this? About

> how

> > > and what to do?

> > > I am 45 and I figure it would be like pulling

> eye

> > > teeth.

> > > Jena

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Lotacats >^.^<

> > http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/549000

> >

> >

>

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