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I am so sorry you are suffering so with the meds. I know how you feel. I

went through the same thing with the MTX oral and then with the injections.

None of the so called mes to help with side effects did anything for me. I

was like you...lived in the toilet the whole time I took the stuff.

The insurance thing is always a pain. May I suggestion starting a notebook

with your needs. Try contacting the insurance company and see what the

details are. I just go my kids new insurance info in the mail today. So its

probably on its way. The insurance company can call for you to get everything

set up so you can see the doc while waiting for the new cards and info to

arrive. Check and see if they can set up a second opinion for you with another

rheummy. It may take awhile.

I had the same problem with my rheummy not listening to me. I finally just

put my foot down and told him exactly how I felt about him. I reminded him I

was paying him for a service which I felt right now I was not getting. I

also let him know that I had notified my insurance company the details of how I

was being treated. He began to listen for a brief period of time. I let

him know this was MY body and he is suppose to work with me to help me make

decisions on what was the best treatment for me. Well in the end it didn't

work

and I have never gone back to him. But I hope maybe it will get you the

help that you need.

I know my insurance has mail order pharmacy for all maintainance meds. I

use to get my Enbrel 3 month supply at a time sent to me via Fedex. It was

cheaper than going to the pharmacy monthly. I would first see if they will let

you get the first few months locally to save you money incase Enbrel is not

the med for you. I still have a few boxes of Enbrel in my frig which I will

end up in the trash soon.

I agree with you on the pharmacist. Mine is wonderful!!! She has save me

so much heartache and pain. The old fashioned pharmacist is the master when

it comes to these meds. See if you can get some of your meds from the place

you prefer so you can maintain you relationship with him. I was getting meds

either throw local pharmacy or mailorder depending on which was most cost

effective.

Maybe your new insurance has a case management nurse. If so she may be able

to get you into pain management doc. Please keep in touch with me. I will

share any tips I have. I understand how frustrating this whole

insurance/doctor thing is.

Toni

In a message dated 1/3/2005 3:31:19 PM Central Standard Time,

writes:

Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:20:12 -0800 (PST)

From: Cindi Hein <heinscsf@...>

Subject: PAULA AND MEDS

DEAR PAULA,

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY MAIL RIGHT AWAY, I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU

ARE....I WRITE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF MY BAD FINGERS.....

I HAVE BEEN ON EVERYTHING, ORAL FOR MY RA.....I LIVED IN THE BATHROOM, GOD,

I WAS SICK ON EVERYTHING....MTX WAS A REAL BAD ONE, SO I AM ON INJECTABLE, I

AM STILL VERY SICK FOR 3 DAYS OF 7. I GET REAQUAINTED WITH MY 2 BATHROOMS AND

BELIEVE ME I AM GLAD THAT I HAVE 2 NOW.....

I AM CONFUSED AND HAVE BEEN THIS WAY FOR 3 YEARS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF I

SHOULD JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I AM IN PAIN AND SICK AND LUCKY TO WALK A

LITTLE AND GET AROUND A LITTLE, KNOWING I WILL BE SICK THOSE 3 DAYS OR FIGHT

FOR A

BETTER LIFE, I AM GETTING EXHAUSTED FROM BEGGING FOR HELP FROM MY RHEUMY, MY

HUSBAND IS AT EACH APPT AND HE SAYS THAT NOW THAT THE CHALLENGE OF

DIAGNOSING ME IS OVER HE IS BORED WITH THE REST OF MY TREATMENT BECAUSE TO HIM,

IT IS

RATHER TEXT BOOK. ALSO, AFTER THE NOISE ON TV OVER OXYCONTIN AND LIKE DRUGS,

HE QUIT, STOPPED INSTANTLY PRESCRIBING ANY PAIN MEDS....

I AM SICK OF IT ALL, I FEEL LIKE JUST DOING NOTHING AT ALL, I FEEL WORN OUT,

NOW OUR INSURANCE IS A NEW CARRIER, I HAVE NO POLICY BOOK, NO CARDS I THINK

WE HAVE A MAIL BOX PRESCRIPTION THING, WHERE MY PHARMACIST IS MY BEST

ADVOCATE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS...EVERYTHING IS UPSIDE DOWN NOW.....

I AM SORRY THIS GOT SO LONG, I SHOULD ALSO BE QUIET. I COULD BE SO MUCH

WORSE AND SO MANY DEAR PEOPLE ARE, I WILL GET IT ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT WITH

TIME....I WILL....

DO YOU THINK THE ENBREL OR THE OTHERS LIKE HUMIRA OR REMICADE, BY THE WAY

REMICADE IS THE ONE I PREFER BECAUSE OF BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS FOR 26 YEARS,

-- DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WORTH THE RISK ?

THANK YOU, CINDI

CINDI HEIN

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,

I am so sorry you are suffering so with the meds. I know how you feel. I

went through the same thing with the MTX oral and then with the injections.

None of the so called mes to help with side effects did anything for me. I

was like you...lived in the toilet the whole time I took the stuff.

The insurance thing is always a pain. May I suggestion starting a notebook

with your needs. Try contacting the insurance company and see what the

details are. I just go my kids new insurance info in the mail today. So its

probably on its way. The insurance company can call for you to get everything

set up so you can see the doc while waiting for the new cards and info to

arrive. Check and see if they can set up a second opinion for you with another

rheummy. It may take awhile.

I had the same problem with my rheummy not listening to me. I finally just

put my foot down and told him exactly how I felt about him. I reminded him I

was paying him for a service which I felt right now I was not getting. I

also let him know that I had notified my insurance company the details of how I

was being treated. He began to listen for a brief period of time. I let

him know this was MY body and he is suppose to work with me to help me make

decisions on what was the best treatment for me. Well in the end it didn't

work

and I have never gone back to him. But I hope maybe it will get you the

help that you need.

I know my insurance has mail order pharmacy for all maintainance meds. I

use to get my Enbrel 3 month supply at a time sent to me via Fedex. It was

cheaper than going to the pharmacy monthly. I would first see if they will let

you get the first few months locally to save you money incase Enbrel is not

the med for you. I still have a few boxes of Enbrel in my frig which I will

end up in the trash soon.

I agree with you on the pharmacist. Mine is wonderful!!! She has save me

so much heartache and pain. The old fashioned pharmacist is the master when

it comes to these meds. See if you can get some of your meds from the place

you prefer so you can maintain you relationship with him. I was getting meds

either throw local pharmacy or mailorder depending on which was most cost

effective.

Maybe your new insurance has a case management nurse. If so she may be able

to get you into pain management doc. Please keep in touch with me. I will

share any tips I have. I understand how frustrating this whole

insurance/doctor thing is.

Toni

In a message dated 1/3/2005 3:31:19 PM Central Standard Time,

writes:

Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:20:12 -0800 (PST)

From: Cindi Hein <heinscsf@...>

Subject: PAULA AND MEDS

DEAR PAULA,

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY MAIL RIGHT AWAY, I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU

ARE....I WRITE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF MY BAD FINGERS.....

I HAVE BEEN ON EVERYTHING, ORAL FOR MY RA.....I LIVED IN THE BATHROOM, GOD,

I WAS SICK ON EVERYTHING....MTX WAS A REAL BAD ONE, SO I AM ON INJECTABLE, I

AM STILL VERY SICK FOR 3 DAYS OF 7. I GET REAQUAINTED WITH MY 2 BATHROOMS AND

BELIEVE ME I AM GLAD THAT I HAVE 2 NOW.....

I AM CONFUSED AND HAVE BEEN THIS WAY FOR 3 YEARS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF I

SHOULD JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I AM IN PAIN AND SICK AND LUCKY TO WALK A

LITTLE AND GET AROUND A LITTLE, KNOWING I WILL BE SICK THOSE 3 DAYS OR FIGHT

FOR A

BETTER LIFE, I AM GETTING EXHAUSTED FROM BEGGING FOR HELP FROM MY RHEUMY, MY

HUSBAND IS AT EACH APPT AND HE SAYS THAT NOW THAT THE CHALLENGE OF

DIAGNOSING ME IS OVER HE IS BORED WITH THE REST OF MY TREATMENT BECAUSE TO HIM,

IT IS

RATHER TEXT BOOK. ALSO, AFTER THE NOISE ON TV OVER OXYCONTIN AND LIKE DRUGS,

HE QUIT, STOPPED INSTANTLY PRESCRIBING ANY PAIN MEDS....

I AM SICK OF IT ALL, I FEEL LIKE JUST DOING NOTHING AT ALL, I FEEL WORN OUT,

NOW OUR INSURANCE IS A NEW CARRIER, I HAVE NO POLICY BOOK, NO CARDS I THINK

WE HAVE A MAIL BOX PRESCRIPTION THING, WHERE MY PHARMACIST IS MY BEST

ADVOCATE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS...EVERYTHING IS UPSIDE DOWN NOW.....

I AM SORRY THIS GOT SO LONG, I SHOULD ALSO BE QUIET. I COULD BE SO MUCH

WORSE AND SO MANY DEAR PEOPLE ARE, I WILL GET IT ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT WITH

TIME....I WILL....

DO YOU THINK THE ENBREL OR THE OTHERS LIKE HUMIRA OR REMICADE, BY THE WAY

REMICADE IS THE ONE I PREFER BECAUSE OF BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS FOR 26 YEARS,

-- DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WORTH THE RISK ?

THANK YOU, CINDI

CINDI HEIN

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