Re: about Malic Acid

[Guest guest]

yeah, I forgot about the 2 tylenol and 1 nasal decongestant I take

before I go to work in the morning so i'm not sniffling all the time!

I'll also take a vicoden in the afternoon or later at night depending

on if I need it or not. The days I don't work I usually eliminate the

Adderall because I wake up to late to take it (I'm not gonna take it

at noon - i'd be up all night!)

If I can't sleep I'll take a couple Tylenol PM's...

And before I go to bed I take 25mg of Elavil (fogot about that!) but

once this prescription is done, I'll be going back to my 10mg dose...

The magnesium/calcium/zinc supplement I was taking before (took my

last one today) helped to straiten out my IBS. I've had a couple

" attacks " - but nothing like it used to be! I think that since my

stress level is down now, that helps a lot too. So I'm hoping the

magnesium in this magnesium malate will keep it to a bearable level.

The brand is called " Source Naturals " and I got 200 capsules for

$13.50 - she had another brand but I didn't look at it. I was so tired

and just wanted to go home, take a shower, and go to bed!! I was just

happy I found what I had been looking for! On the front of this bottle

it says " Yielding 416.5mg Malic Acid. " It also states that it's

hypo-allergenic; with no yeast, dairy, egg, gluten, corn, soy, or

wheat. It contains no sugar, starch, salt, preservatives, or

artificial color, flavor, or fragrance. If you are having trouble

finding it (or a similar/better brand) anywhere, I'd be more then

happy to send you a bottle (if you send me the money, of course!)

We'll see how this works for me over the next month or so.

I'd love to start Co-Q10, but it's so expensive!! I need to make an

appointment with my neurologist, he said he knew of some good

supplements and vitamins to take for FMS paitients...

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> Yeah, it's hard to find malic acid all by itself. I had a lady at

> one health food store tell me that you can't even get malic acid

> solo...I just about turned around and walked out! I wasn't sure if

> I wanted to buy products from someone so uneducated!

>

> The product you found sounds really good. I'm especially impressed

> that it has protein in it. A lot of the reading I've done has

> stressed a diet that has a higher protein to carb ratio. The level

> of malic acid is higher than I've been able to find too. I take KAL

> Brand from Neutraceuticals, and it only has 1.5 grams per serving.

> What brand is it? I think I might want to check it out myself. I'm

> not too fond of the fact that mine has such a high level of B-

> vitamins in it, because it's very easy to get too much of those!

> I'm glad you are starting out slow...that's the best way to do it,

> so it isn't a big shock to your system.

>

> I can really relate to the handful of pills you take every day. I

> take a pretty big handful myself, both prescription meds and

> supplements that I've chosen for myself. Below is my list, just so

> you feel in good company:

>

> Morning

>

> 1 Celexa

> 1 Bextra

> 1 Topamax

> 1 Oxycontin (timing depends on when needed)

> 1 multivitamin

> 2 mag/malic acid

> 1 olive leaf extract (one month on/one month off)

> 1 essential fatty acid

>

> Bedtime

>

> 1 Bextra

> 3 Topamax

> 2 mag/malic acid

> 1 olive leaf (same as above)

> 1 essential fatty acid

> 1 Ambien

>

> I also have Soma that I take as needed, but my use of that has

> dropped considerably since I started taking the magnesium and malic

> acid. And right now, I have some extra meds I'm taking since I'm

> sick....antibiotic, antihistamine/decongestant combo, cough med, and

> acidophilus so that the antibiotic doesn't wreak havoc on my

> digestive tract. The last antibiotic I was given, in pre-op for

> shoulder surgery, caused me to develop colitis, so I'm not taking

> ANY chances!

>

> Please keep me posted on how you are doing with the new

> supplements. If you have IBS, this regimen sometimes helps. I know

> it would seem the opposite, since magnesium can sometimes cause

> diarrhea, but if some part of your IBS stems from malabsorbtion, the

> proper level of magnesium in your body tends to straighten it out.

> It did for me at least, and a few other people I have come across.

> But then again, everyone is different! I'm keeping my fingers

> crossed that it helps you !

>

> All my best,

> Jen

>

> A big P.S....Make sure you tell your doc that you added the

> supplement to your diet!!! He or she needs to know everything you

> are taking, even supplements!

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> 1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences with everyone on the list as

to what treatments do and don't work for us, pls always check with your dr.

Some treatments are dangerous when given along with other meds as well as to

certain health conditions or just dangerous in general.

>

> 2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't matter what it is) pls don't

be afraid to ask for help. It is the first step to trying to make that

situation better.

>

> Have a nice day everyone.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Wouldn't you just love to chuck it all in the garbage? I know I

would! I'd love to just be able to take just my multi in the

morning and go!

Do you ever come across people (normals, I mean) who think you

are " lucky " that you have access to narcotic pain meds? I think

that's the strangest thing! I feel like saying " You know, I don't

FEEL lucky! Wanna trade me places? " I don't think that those people

truly understand what it's like to NEED pain meds, at least not for

more than an acute injury. They're the ones who get the " high " off

of them, the ones who make it harder for us to get adequate relief.

I'd give up Oxycontin in a heartbeat if it meant I'd never be in

pain again!!

Thanks for giving me the name of the supplement. I will try to find

it here if I can. I also have a Vitamin Shoppe catalog, so it might

be in there too.

Well, I'm off to bed. Since I'm pretty much over being sick, I have

to go back to work tomorrow...ugh...so I need to get some sleep.

Take care and good luck. By the way, how's the job going?

Jen

[Guest guest]

,

How funny! Fresh malic acid, all for you! I like my apples the

same way as you...mushy apples are yucky!!

Don't feel uncomfortable about seeing a psychiatrist. They can be a

really good ally when it comes to Fibro...I know mine has. He's

probably worked just as hard as my primary care doc to help get my

symptoms under control. And I know he's a lot more comfortable with

the psychiatric meds than my primary care doc is. Sometimes, fine

tuning those meds can almost be an art form, and our PCP's just

don't have as vast of knowledge as psychs do. They can also help

with the really frustrating issues of coping with living with a

chronic illness. God knows my psych hears it enough!

I know how you feel about going to the doctor all the time to get

your pain med script refilled. That really sucks that your doctor

won't write more than one fill at a time on your scripts. Since I

take Oxycontin, which is a Schedule II narcotic, it CAN'T be written

for more than one fill at a time, and can't be called in, so I have

to call my doctor's office every time I get close to running out,

then drive all the way over there and pick it up, drive all the way

back, then get it filled. I actually got so tired of calling long

distance to them, and just started using MDhub to request it, and

let them call ME when it's ready!

I'm glad the new job is going so good for you. It sounds like it's

one of those " perfect fit " jobs. A good, set schedule makes all the

difference in the world, especially when it's in tune with your

natural circadian rhythm. Since I'm bipolar as well, I've really

had to try to stick to a set schedule for quite a while...it helps

me keep everything " balanced " better. I don't know how you kept

those hours as a bartender.....but then again, I'm not 21 anymore!

LOL! I guess I can still remember going to bed as the sun was

coming up. These days, the only time I'm up late is when I have

insomnia. God, that makes me sound so old, doesn't it? It's so sad

to think that I'm only 33 and sound like this....what will I be like

when I REALLY am old?? And being in charge IS stressful. I have to

do it sometimes at work, and there are times when I just want to

smack those people. I'm in charge of people who are, for the most

part, older than me, and I swear they act like a group of helpless 5

year olds....and like you said, they don't LISTEN!! I much prefer

being responsible for just me!

Well, you take care, and keep me updated!

Much love,

Jen

PS..There is a very good stretch you can do to help your hips (and

your lower back) stretch out. Lay down on the floor, with your

knees bent up. Slowly let both knees drop to the left side, as far

down as you can go, and lay there for 10-15 seconds. Bring your

knees back up to neutral, then go down to the right. Do both sides

about 10 times. You can also do a piriformis stretch, where you lay

on the floor, right leg flat on the ground, and lift the left leg up

towards your chest, hands behind your knee, and pull it towards you,

keeping your foot flexed. Hold for 10-15 seconds, do both sides 10

times. This one stretches the piriformis, hamstrings, and the

hips. You can also do one where you leave your right leg flat, and

pull your left leg up to your chest, and hold it there with your

hands (same count). Do both sides 10 times. I learned these in PT

when I was having low back, SI joint, and hip pain. Hope they help

you out! And since you don't like the feel of hot stuff, there is a

rub called Biofreeze that has a cooling effect instead of heating.

You could probably get it at your health food store.