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hello Hellen ,

I am sorry to hear wha tyou are going throught . Do not get discoraged we all go throught yoru desappointment and confusion quite regularly until we find what works fo rus .

What I see is that you did a lot at he same time . going fast does a very poor job in theses desease going slow even staionnary doe san excellent job .

An other thing , th eherxeimer effect increases with time even if you stopp as the borellas that were weak contnue to dye over time and the body is overwelmed and get plugged so it accumulate . may I suggest that you do a liver flush , colonics and low volume coffee aenemas .until your symptoms receeded.

then go much slower so you do no texperience a backward that is so desorienting and desappointed not to speack about he suffering .

This is no ta medical advise just what come to my mind becuase of me having gone throught similar situation

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 12:00:47 PMSubject: discouraged/frustrated

Hi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took

off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. Helen

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Hi Helen,Whoa!The first rule of thumb in fighting Lyme is Pace, not Race. If you push things you will only go backward: a lesson that many of us have learned the hard way. ( I certainly have, first hand)Though I've done MMS1, I finally stopped because it was just too difficult to schedule with my 15 g of S & C a day, and I was progressing well enough with Rife and S & C that MMS1 didn't appreciably change things. BTW, that's not a judgement of MMS1; just telling you where I'm coming from, so I'm not as familiar with the rhythms of MMS1 reactions, and I know that theoretically, one doesn't herx with MMS1 or MMS2, although I'm not certain that's always true. Sounds to me like you're herxing, or suffering from a lot of toxins (same thing)I do know that when stuff starts happening on the skin, that's a possible sign of overloaded detox pathways: of having killed too much stuff too fast for your liver to handle. The skin is known as the 'third kidney' and is the body's last-ditch effort to rid itself of toxins when other avenues are congested or damaged. Whenever my skin starts acting up (and i have psoriasis, which is always an issue) I baby my liver and try to support it with Milk Thistle, extra chlorella before my CE, and the good detox things you mentioned.One of my learning-the-hard-way lessons concerned teasel. It's a VERY powerful killing herb and I used too much at the onset. This is what an expert friend told me, after I messed up:Teasel: Day

1

1 drop in morning Day

2

1 drop in morning

1 drop at noon Day

3

1 drop in morning

1 drop at noon

1 drop in evening Day

4

2 drops in morning

1 drop at noon 1

drop in evening Day

5 2

drops in morning 2

drops at noon

1 drop in evening I think you get the picture - keep adding one drop per day

until you are up to 3 drops 3x/day. Yes, 2 drops right off the git-go was

probably a little much. I actually did 1 drop for several days, 2 drops

for several days etc as I didn't want to herx - almost every herx for me

involves a seizure! What troubles me is that you're already doing a pretty heavy killing regime with the 2 MMSs, Plus GSE, Plus CS...Plus teasel. That's a lot to sort out and detox. It doesn't surprise me that you're suffering. Reminds me of when the sink garbage disposal backed up after a lot of food-prep and clearing up from big party.After you've established a stable progress with one protocol, always introduce only one new thing, observe its effects, and if you get into trouble, you'll know what set it up. Back off and detox, until the herxing subsides. It's so tempting to think that, "If this thing helps, then THIS other thing on top of it will REALLY help!" Not so. You'll just get into a confusing state of herxing, and I've noticed that when I'm in panic and pain I just don't think as clearly so thinking my way out is harder. And yes, you can set up inflammation that looks like allergic response. Chances are, though, that you may just need to let things rest a bit and do a lot of serious detoxing. Skin stuff can last a while, though, so don't get discouraged. You might want to look into doing some liver cleanses, to help your liver get back to normal A major third of fighting Lyme should be detox, and the sovereign detox method of all is the coffee enema (yeah, I know, repugnant, not something you want to do) I got over that using the low-volume CE and it really turned my recovery around and has been a mainstay ever since. CEs really diminish the intensity of herxes and shortening them.I know you're discouraged, we've all been there at some point. don't beat yourself up; just take a deep breath and let things regroup for a bit. Patience is a hard-won lesson, and for Lyme it's truly half the battle. You're presently in a sorting out spell which isn't fun and feels uncertain and scary, but you'll move forward again soon.Be well,Léna

Hi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. Helen

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I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it helped them? There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have tried or know a lot about it?

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From: dingyung49@...Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight TimeSubj: discouraged/frustrated

Hi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. Helen

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Thanks for your reply. I do NOT trust the FDA. After reading the book Skinny B*tch, which I highly recommend to everyone in the world to read for themselves, I see how truly corrupt all these organizations are that are supposed to be protecting us!

I'll do more research on MMS for myself and if Jim can explain better that'd be great.

Blessing,

Hi ,I don't believe any of the propaganda put out by the FDA. They approve dangerous drugs, they debunk anything alternative and they are in bed with the drug companies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are bought by the drug companies and the last thing they want is competition from MMS, Rife machines, Homeopathics or Herbs. My mom's alternative doctor had his license taken away recently and must spend millions fighting to get it back. This was all because he was actually curing people with diet, herbs and homeopathics. It's pretty sad, that you can't trust the government to have our backs, but just follow the money trail. I would listen to the people who have taken MMS long term and find out what kind of results they are having. I know that there is an MMS yahoo group that you could join. MMS does not contain bleach either. Jim can probably explain it better but I think that MMS has 3 parts oxygen and bleach has two. Chlorine Dioxide is different then Chlorine which the FDA freely allows to be used in our drinking water.>> I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it > helped them? > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have > tried or know a lot about it?> ~> > > > > > > > > ____________________________________> Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time> Subj: discouraged/frustrated> > > > > > > Hi, group,> > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided> MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with> many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was> able to feel almost 95% symptom free.> > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24> drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went> to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin> itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots> appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I> also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart> from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing> guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I> also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,> DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but> my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone> pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy> reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root> have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for> fear I may have allergy reaction to it.> > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,> then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific> co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long> history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep> bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort> w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know> what shall I do now. Helen>

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Hi ,

I don't believe any of the propaganda put out by the FDA. They approve

dangerous drugs, they debunk anything alternative and they are in bed with the

drug companies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are

bought by the drug companies and the last thing they want is competition from

MMS, Rife machines, Homeopathics or Herbs. My mom's alternative doctor had his

license taken away recently and must spend millions fighting to get it back.

This was all because he was actually curing people with diet, herbs and

homeopathics.

It's pretty sad, that you can't trust the government to have our backs, but just

follow the money trail. I would listen to the people who have taken MMS long

term and find out what kind of results they are having. I know that there is an

MMS yahoo group that you could join. MMS does not contain bleach either. Jim

can probably explain it better but I think that MMS has 3 parts oxygen and

bleach has two. Chlorine Dioxide is different then Chlorine which the FDA

freely allows to be used in our drinking water.

>

> I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> helped them?

> There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have

> tried or know a lot about it?

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________________________________

> From: dingyung49@...

> Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> Subj: discouraged/frustrated

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi, group,

>

> After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

>

> I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

>

> My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> what shall I do now. Helen

>

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Wow, that's great it helped you so much. I'm scared of the fact that it's been so controversial on the other lyme boards, like lyme aid and such. I guess because it's used as a surface cleaner it's a little frightening to think of ingesting it.

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MMS is wonderfull it saved my life 4 time I was dying

Marie

Subject: Re: Re: discouraged/frustratedTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 7:50 AM

Thanks for your reply. I do NOT trust the FDA. After reading the book Skinny B*tch, which I highly recommend to everyone in the world to read for themselves, I see how truly corrupt all these organizations are that are supposed to be protecting us!

I'll do more research on MMS for myself and if Jim can explain better that'd be great.

Blessing,

Hi ,I don't believe any of the propaganda put out by the FDA. They approve dangerous drugs, they debunk anything alternative and they are in bed with the drug companies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are bought by the drug companies and the last thing they want is competition from MMS, Rife machines, Homeopathics or Herbs. My mom's alternative doctor had his license taken away recently and must spend millions fighting to get it back. This was all because he was actually curing people with diet, herbs and homeopathics. It's pretty sad, that you can't trust the government to have our backs, but just follow the money trail. I would listen to the people who have taken MMS long term and find out what kind of results they are having. I know that there is an MMS yahoo group that you could join. MMS does not contain bleach either. Jim can probably explain it better but I think that MMS has 3 parts oxygen and bleach has two. Chlorine Dioxide is different then Chlorine which the FDA freely allows to be used in our drinking water.>> I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it > helped them? > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have > tried or know a lot about it?> ~> > > > > > > > > ____________________________________> Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time> Subj: discouraged/frustrated> > > > > > > Hi, group,> > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided> MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with> many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was> able to feel almost 95% symptom free.> > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24> drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went> to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin> itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots> appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I> also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart> from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing> guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I> also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,> DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but> my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone> pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy> reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root> have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for> fear I may have allergy reaction to it.> > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,> then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific> co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long> history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep> bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort> w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know> what shall I do now. Helen>

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, are you saying other Lyme boards are calling MMS controversial?  Just curious here. If so, controversial in what way that it doesn't help or that it is harmful?

 

Wow, that's great it helped you so much. I'm scared of the fact that it's been so controversial on the other lyme boards, like lyme aid and such. I guess because it's used as a surface cleaner it's a little frightening to think of ingesting it.

 

~

 

 

 

MMS is wonderfull it saved my life 4 time I was dying

Marie

Subject: Re: Re: discouraged/frustratedTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 7:50 AM

 

Thanks for your reply. I do NOT trust the FDA. After reading the book Skinny B*tch, which I highly recommend to everyone in the world to read for themselves, I see how truly corrupt all these organizations are that are supposed to be protecting us!

I'll do more research on MMS for myself and if Jim can explain better that'd be great.

 

Blessing,

 

 

 

Hi ,I don't believe any of the propaganda put out by the FDA. They approve dangerous drugs, they debunk anything alternative and they are in bed with the drug companies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are bought by the drug companies and the last thing they want is competition from MMS, Rife machines, Homeopathics or Herbs. My mom's alternative doctor had his license taken away recently and must spend millions fighting to get it back. This was all because he was actually curing people with diet, herbs and homeopathics. It's pretty sad, that you can't trust the government to have our backs, but just follow the money trail. I would listen to the people who have taken MMS long term and find out what kind of results they are having. I know that there is an MMS yahoo group that you could join. MMS does not contain bleach either. Jim can probably explain it better but I think that MMS has 3 parts oxygen and bleach has two. Chlorine Dioxide is different then Chlorine which the FDA freely allows to be used in our drinking water.>> I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it > helped them? > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have > tried or know a lot about it?> ~> > > > > > > > > ____________________________________> Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time> Subj: discouraged/frustrated> > > > > > > Hi, group,> > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided> MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with> many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was> able to feel almost 95% symptom free.> > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24> drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went> to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin> itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots> appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I> also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart> from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing> guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I> also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,> DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but> my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone> pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy> reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root> have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for> fear I may have allergy reaction to it.> > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,> then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific> co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long> history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep> bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort> w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know> what shall I do now. Helen>

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Hi and ,

Dr Klinghardt recommended that I do MMS. I am surprised that the Lyme boards

would call it controversial when the number 1 Lyme doctor in the country and

perhaps the world recommends it to some of his patients. He also put both of my

friends on MMS.

> > >

> > > I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> > > helped them?

> > > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> > > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who

> > have

> > > tried or know a lot about it?

> > > ~

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________________________________

> > > From: dingyung49@

> > > Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> > > Subj: discouraged/frustrated

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi, group,

> > >

> > > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> > > MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> > > many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> > > able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

> > >

> > > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> > > drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> > > to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> > > itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> > > appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> > > also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> > > from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> > > guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> > > also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> > > DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> > > my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> > > pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> > > reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> > > have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> > > fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

> > >

> > > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> > > then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> > > co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> > > history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> > > bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> > > w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> > > what shall I do now. Helen

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Just curious, what state is the #1 LLMD in?

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> > > > helped them?

> > > > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> > > > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who

> > > have

> > > > tried or know a lot about it?

> > > > ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________________________________

> > > > From: dingyung49@

> > > > Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> > > > Subj: discouraged/frustrated

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi, group,

> > > >

> > > > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> > > > MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> > > > many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> > > > able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

> > > >

> > > > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> > > > drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> > > > to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> > > > itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> > > > appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> > > > also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> > > > from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> > > > guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> > > > also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> > > > DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> > > > my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> > > > pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> > > > reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> > > > have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> > > > fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

> > > >

> > > > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> > > > then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> > > > co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> > > > history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> > > > bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> > > > w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> > > > what shall I do now. Helen

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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DK also suggested MMS for me once but I had him test me for Teasel Root instead

since I already owned some of that and the Teasel did the trick for me. But

he's definitely found it useful in his patients.

Thane

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> > > > helped them?

> > > > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> > > > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who

> > > have

> > > > tried or know a lot about it?

> > > > ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________________________________

> > > > From: dingyung49@

> > > > Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> > > > Subj: discouraged/frustrated

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi, group,

> > > >

> > > > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> > > > MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> > > > many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> > > > able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

> > > >

> > > > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> > > > drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> > > > to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> > > > itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> > > > appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> > > > also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> > > > from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> > > > guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> > > > also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> > > > DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> > > > my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> > > > pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> > > > reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> > > > have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> > > > fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

> > > >

> > > > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> > > > then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> > > > co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> > > > history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> > > > bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> > > > w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> > > > what shall I do now. Helen

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Yes, several other lyme groups speak out on the dangers and potential harm of it.

, are you saying other Lyme boards are calling MMS controversial? Just curious here. If so, controversial in what way that it doesn't help or that it is harmful?

Wow, that's great it helped you so much. I'm scared of the fact that it's been so controversial on the other lyme boards, like lyme aid and such. I guess because it's used as a surface cleaner it's a little frightening to think of ingesting it.

~

MMS is wonderfull it saved my life 4 time I was dying

Marie

Subject: Re: Re: discouraged/frustratedTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 7:50 AM

Thanks for your reply. I do NOT trust the FDA. After reading the book Skinny B*tch, which I highly recommend to everyone in the world to read for themselves, I see how truly corrupt all these organizations are that are supposed to be protecting us!

I'll do more research on MMS for myself and if Jim can explain better that'd be great.

Blessing,

Hi ,I don't believe any of the propaganda put out by the FDA. They approve dangerous drugs, they debunk anything alternative and they are in bed with the drug companies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are bought by the drug companies and the last thing they want is competition from MMS, Rife machines, Homeopathics or Herbs. My mom's alternative doctor had his license taken away recently and must spend millions fighting to get it back. This was all because he was actually curing people with diet, herbs and homeopathics. It's pretty sad, that you can't trust the government to have our backs, but just follow the money trail. I would listen to the people who have taken MMS long term and find out what kind of results they are having. I know that there is an MMS yahoo group that you could join. MMS does not contain bleach either. Jim can probably explain it better but I think that MMS has 3 parts oxygen and bleach has two. Chlorine Dioxide is different then Chlorine which the FDA freely allows to be used in our drinking water.>> I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it > helped them? > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who have > tried or know a lot about it?> ~> > > > > > > > > ____________________________________> Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time> Subj: discouraged/frustrated> > > > > > > Hi, group,> > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided> MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with> many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was> able to feel almost 95% symptom free.> > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24> drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went> to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin> itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots> appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I> also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart> from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing> guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I> also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,> DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but> my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone> pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy> reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root> have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for> fear I may have allergy reaction to it.> > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,> then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific> co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long> history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep> bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort> w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know> what shall I do now. Helen>

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I am still discouiraged/frustrated. Have had stopped mms/teasel for more than

two weeks. My rashes going on my pain non stop. now my gum swallen and in great

pain. wonder my gum problem also lyme flare up. I think I need seeing dentist

for anti-biotic treatment. I use CS, coconut oil, clay to no avil. I am confuse

about good/bad regarding MMS treatment. It may be tooooooo powerful for me. I

had used my max 27 drops. Helen

> >

> > I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> > helped them?

> > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who

> have

> > tried or know a lot about it?

> > ~

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________________________________

> > From: dingyung49@

> > Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> > Subj: discouraged/frustrated

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi, group,

> >

> > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> > MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> > many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> > able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

> >

> > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> > drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> > to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> > itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> > appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> > also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> > from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> > guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> > also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> > DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> > my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> > pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> > reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> > have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> > fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

> >

> > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> > then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> > co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> > history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> > bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> > w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> > what shall I do now. Helen

> >

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MMS doesn't have bleach in it. I've been using it off and on for the

last year. It has helped to kill my infections, only issue I have is

the smell- just thinking about it makes me nauseous. Presently I am

using it in my bath to heal skin lesions. I have never heard of

anyone being harmed by MMS and I'm 2 yrs now into Lyme treatment.

Aandraya

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Aandraya,I know what you mean about the smell. It took me over a year to get over my aversion and to try it again. I finally took Jim's advice and mixed it with 1-2 tbs of Sunsweet prune juice and it works miracles!  Hardly any taste - very manageable.

 

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MMS doesn't have bleach in it. I've been using it off and on for the

last year. It has helped to kill my infections, only issue I have is

the smell- just thinking about it makes me nauseous. Presently I am

using it in my bath to heal skin lesions. I have never heard of

anyone being harmed by MMS and I'm 2 yrs now into Lyme treatment.

Aandraya

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Lena you say it all Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 1:55:04 PMSubject: Re: discouraged/frustrated

Hi Helen, Whoa!

The first rule of thumb in fighting Lyme is Pace, not Race. If you push things you will only go backward: a lesson that many of us have learned the hard way. ( I certainly have, first hand)

Though I've done MMS1, I finally stopped because it was just too difficult to schedule with my 15 g of S & C a day, and I was progressing well enough with Rife and S & C that MMS1 didn't appreciably change things.

BTW, that's not a judgement of MMS1; just telling you where I'm coming from, so I'm not as familiar with the rhythms of MMS1 reactions, and I know that theoretically, one doesn't herx with MMS1 or MMS2, although I'm not certain that's always true. Sounds to me like you're herxing, or suffering from a lot of toxins (same thing)

I do know that when stuff starts happening on the skin, that's a possible sign of overloaded detox pathways: of having killed too much stuff too fast for your liver to handle. The skin is known as the 'third kidney' and is the body's last-ditch effort to rid itself of toxins when other avenues are congested or damaged. Whenever my skin starts acting up (and i have psoriasis, which is always an issue) I baby my liver and try to support it with Milk Thistle, extra chlorella before my CE, and the good detox things you mentioned.

One of my learning-the-hard-way lessons concerned teasel. It's a VERY powerful killing herb and I used too much at the onset.

This is what an expert friend told me, after I messed up:

Teasel:

Day 1 1 drop in morning

Day 2 1 drop in morning

1 drop at noon

Day 3 1 drop in morning

1 drop at noon

1 drop in evening

Day 4 2 drops in morning

1 drop at noon

1 drop in evening

Day 5 2 drops in morning

2 drops at noon

1 drop in evening

I think you get the picture - keep adding one drop per day until you are up to 3 drops 3x/day. Yes, 2 drops right off the git-go was probably a little much. I actually did 1 drop for several days, 2 drops for several days etc as I didn't want to herx - almost every herx for me involves a seizure!

What troubles me is that you're already doing a pretty heavy killing regime with the 2 MMSs, Plus GSE, Plus CS...Plus teasel. That's a lot to sort out and detox. It doesn't surprise me that you're suffering. Reminds me of when the sink garbage disposal backed up after a lot of food-prep and clearing up from big party.

After you've established a stable progress with one protocol, always introduce only one new thing, observe its effects, and if you get into trouble, you'll know what set it up. Back off and detox, until the herxing subsides. It's so tempting to think that, "If this thing helps, then THIS other thing on top of it will REALLY help!"

Not so. You'll just get into a confusing state of herxing, and I've noticed that when I'm in panic and pain I just don't think as clearly so thinking my way out is harder. And yes, you can set up inflammation that looks like allergic response. Chances are, though, that you may just need to let things rest a bit and do a lot of serious detoxing. Skin stuff can last a while, though, so don't get discouraged. You might want to look into doing some liver cleanses, to help your liver get back to normal

A major third of fighting Lyme should be detox, and the sovereign detox method of all is the coffee enema (yeah, I know, repugnant, not something you want to do) I got over that using the low-volume CE and it really turned my recovery around and has been a mainstay ever since. CEs really diminish the intensity of herxes and shortening them.

I know you're discouraged, we've all been there at some point. don't beat yourself up; just take a deep breath and let things regroup for a bit. Patience is a hard-won lesson, and for Lyme it's truly half the battle. You're presently in a sorting out spell which isn't fun and feels uncertain and scary, but you'll move forward again soon.

Be well,

Léna

Hi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took

off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. Helen

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Ah Marie,You always cheer me up! Thanks! And remember to scratch the names of Lyme and co-infections in the sand on your favorite beach, to watch the waves wash them away. Please do it for me, as I'm nowhere near a beach these days.Be well,LénaLena you say it allMarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 1:55:04 PMSubject: Re: discouraged/frustrated Hi Helen,Whoa!The first rule of thumb in fighting Lyme is Pace, not Race. If you push things you will only go backward: a lesson that many of us have learned the hard way. ( I certainly have, first hand)Though I've done MMS1, I finally stopped because it was just too difficult to schedule with my 15 g of S & C a day, and I was progressing well enough with Rife and S & C that MMS1 didn't appreciably change things. BTW, that's not a judgement of MMS1; just telling you where I'm coming from, so I'm not as familiar with the rhythms of MMS1 reactions, and I know that theoretically, one doesn't herx with MMS1 or MMS2, although I'm not certain that's always true. Sounds to me like you're herxing, or suffering from a lot of toxins (same thing)I do know that when stuff starts happening on the skin, that's a possible sign of overloaded detox pathways: of having killed too much stuff too fast for your liver to handle. The skin is known as the 'third kidney' and is the body's last-ditch effort to rid itself of toxins when other avenues are congested or damaged. Whenever my skin starts acting up (and i have psoriasis, which is always an issue) I baby my liver and try to support it with Milk Thistle, extra chlorella before my CE, and the good detox things you mentioned.One of my learning-the-hard-way lessons concerned teasel. It's a VERY powerful killing herb and I used too much at the onset. This is what an expert friend told me, after I messed up:Teasel: Day 1 1 drop in morning Day 2 1 drop in morning 1 drop at noon Day 3 1 drop in morning 1 drop at noon 1 drop in evening Day 4 2 drops in morning 1 drop at noon 1 drop in evening Day 5 2 drops in morning 2 drops at noon 1 drop in evening I think you get the picture - keep adding one drop per day until you are up to 3 drops 3x/day. Yes, 2 drops right off the git-go was probably a little much. I actually did 1 drop for several days, 2 drops for several days etc as I didn't want to herx - almost every herx for me involves a seizure! What troubles me is that you're already doing a pretty heavy killing regime with the 2 MMSs, Plus GSE, Plus CS...Plus teasel. That's a lot to sort out and detox. It doesn't surprise me that you're suffering. Reminds me of when the sink garbage disposal backed up after a lot of food-prep and clearing up from big party.After you've established a stable progress with one protocol, always introduce only one new thing, observe its effects, and if you get into trouble, you'll know what set it up. Back off and detox, until the herxing subsides. It's so tempting to think that, "If this thing helps, then THIS other thing on top of it will REALLY help!" Not so. You'll just get into a confusing state of herxing, and I've noticed that when I'm in panic and pain I just don't think as clearly so thinking my way out is harder. And yes, you can set up inflammation that looks like allergic response. Chances are, though, that you may just need to let things rest a bit and do a lot of serious detoxing. Skin stuff can last a while, though, so don't get discouraged. You might want to look into doing some liver cleanses, to help your liver get back to normal A major third of fighting Lyme should be detox, and the sovereign detox method of all is the coffee enema (yeah, I know, repugnant, not something you want to do) I got over that using the low-volume CE and it really turned my recovery around and has been a mainstay ever since. CEs really diminish the intensity of herxes and shortening them.I know you're discouraged, we've all been there at some point. don't beat yourself up; just take a deep breath and let things regroup for a bit. Patience is a hard-won lesson, and for Lyme it's truly half the battle. You're presently in a sorting out spell which isn't fun and feels uncertain and scary, but you'll move forward again soon.Be well,LénaHi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. HelenWEll said lena Marie

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Where are directions for using MMS in a bath?  I have significant number of skin

lesions I've been battling with.  I've been taking baking soda baths that help

my skin alot but still have the lesions.  Thanks

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MMS doesn't have bleach in it. I've been using it off and on for the

last year. It has helped to kill my infections, only issue I have is

the smell- just thinking about it makes me nauseous. Presently I am

using it in my bath to heal skin lesions. I have never heard of

anyone being harmed by MMS and I'm 2 yrs now into Lyme treatment.

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Barb, you can find them onJjim Humbles site ,all the different protocols are there the directions for a bath is to make up a 40 drop dose with citric acid activator and mix in bath waterI also find that with issues of the skin, the method of just letting the areas of the lesion absorb the gas works really well..Do this by making up a four drop activated dose in a shot glass or small mug, hold area of the affected skin on top of the glass for 2 to 3 minutes, ..do this a few times a dayRe: discouraged/frustrated Posted by: "bbw" barb1283@... barb1283 Date: Mon May 30, 2011 8:46 pm ((PDT))Where

are directions for using MMS in a bath? I have significant number of skin lesions I've been battling with. I've been taking baking soda baths that help my skin alot but still have the lesions. Thanks "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

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I have them all over my back and arms and a few down one leg so I'll have to try the bath. Thanks

To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 3:13 PMSubject: Re: discouraged/frustrated

Barb, you can find them onJjim Humbles site ,all the different protocols are there the directions for a bath is to make up a 40 drop dose with citric acid activator and mix in bath waterI also find that with issues of the skin, the method of just letting the areas of the lesion absorb the gas works really well..Do this by making up a four drop activated dose in a shot glass or small mug, hold area of the affected skin on top of the glass for 2 to 3 minutes, ..do this a few times a dayRe: discouraged/frustrated Posted by: "bbw" barb1283@... barb1283 Date: Mon May 30, 2011 8:46 pm ((PDT))Where are directions for using MMS in a bath? I have significant

number of skin lesions I've been battling with. I've been taking baking soda baths that help my skin alot but still have the lesions. Thanks

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Helen,

Have you tried using MMS as an oral rinse? Swishing MMS in your mouth for a

minute or more will help kill any pathogens in your mouth, teeth and gums... You

can also brush your teeth with MMS...

To use MMS orally, place 10 drops of MMS into a glass, add your number of drops

to acidify it, then add 4 ounces of distilled water... This one mix can be used

all day, no need to make a fresh batch each time you use it..

Sip enough and swirl in your mouth, do this 2 - 3 times daily if you wish..

http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=17 & Itemid=37

MMS is not powerful, it is actually a very weak oxidizer, it is only powerful

enough to kill the bad pathogens, not powerful enough to kill the stronger good

bacteria.. MMS does two things in the body, kills bad pathogens, oxidizes heavy

metals.. If it is not used within two hours, it converts to a simple salt and is

flushed out of the body.. The CS you are taking remains in the body for a much

longer time...

Take care,

Jim

> > >

> > > I was wondering how many people on here are using this MMS? And has it

> > > helped them?

> > > There was an FDA warning about it from harm it can do, and I also read

> > > some where that it contains bleach. Any thoughts from users or those who

> > have

> > > tried or know a lot about it?

> > > ~

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________________________________

> > > From: dingyung49@

> > > Reply-to: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > > Sent: 5/23/2011 12:00:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

> > > Subj: discouraged/frustrated

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> > > Hi, group,

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> > > After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decided

> > > MMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years with

> > > many failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he was

> > > able to feel almost 95% symptom free.

> > >

> > > I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24

> > > drops a day as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I went

> > > to MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skin

> > > itches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dots

> > > appeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, I

> > > also added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apart

> > > from MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killing

> > > guts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. I

> > > also was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,

> > > DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now but

> > > my rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bone

> > > pain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergy

> > > reaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel root

> > > have bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take for

> > > fear I may have allergy reaction to it.

> > >

> > > My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,

> > > then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specific

> > > co-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had long

> > > history of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deep

> > > bone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfort

> > > w. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't know

> > > what shall I do now. Helen

> > >

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Thanks, , I will try the MMS with prune juice when I start taking

it again. Even the memory of the smell makes me feel nauseous. Right

now I have enough killer meds/herbs in my protocol so I'm waiting a

bit to start MMS again.

Aandraya

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I'm sure the bath protocol is on Jim Humble's site. I use 30 drops of

activated MMS in the bath water and soak for about half an hour.

Sometimes I also add DMSO to it to help the MMS absorbe better.

Other things that have helped heal my skin lesions are hydrogen

peroxide baths, iodine on the lesions, and treatment for Bartonella

and fungal infections- especially itraconazole.

I have yet to try the " MMS Bag protocol " but I plan to in the future.

Aandraya

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I promise, Marie Hi, group,After a long talk with my friend's friend on the phone, I decidedMMS regimen. He told me he had been suffering lyme for 40 years withmany failed treatments unitl he was on MMS for the last two years he wasable to feel almost 95% symptom free.I started April 1, one drop a day until middle of May I build up to 24drops a day

as per MMS #100 portocol. I did not felt sick. Then I wentto MMS #2000 portocol. At the day of 28 drops, I suddently felt my skinitches lots like ants bitting on me. no sooner many red raised dotsappeared on my legs, patched here and there. While on mms journey, Ialso added teasel root tincture, GSE. I took CS in the evening apartfrom MMS. Oxy-powder for elimination, oliver leaf extract for killingguts pathogen. I also added lumbrokinase for blood circulation. Ialso was doing green drink including cilantro, lemon juice, living clay,DE for detoxing. I took off all my lyme treatments for a week now butmy rashes are still slowing spreading. My deep soreness arthritis bonepain here/there are getting worse. Does my body get serious allergyreaction to whatever I took at the time of treatment? Does teasel roothave bad side effect? I just received artemisnin but afread to take forfear I may have allergy

reaction to it.My original plan is to let MMS first kill all possible pathogencies,then add salt/c while waiting my coil machine to treat my specificco-infections. I highly suspecious I have bart. I have had longhistory of streak hives. hundres of painful knots under my skin, deepbone pain,arthritis pain, muscle pain, short memory. raynaud discomfortw. chillness. At this junction, I am in no treatment. I don't knowwhat shall I do now. HelenWEll said lena Marie

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I promise, Marie Subject: Re: discouraged/frustratedTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 2:40 AM Ah Marie,You always cheer me up! Thanks! And remember to scratch the names of Lyme and co-infections in the sand on your favorite beach, to watch the waves wash them away. Please do it for me, as I'm nowhere near a beach these days.Be well,Léna

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Sorry, I sent that by accident while trying to trim post. I'm glad you promised, because i know you've had a rough time recently and if you can manage it, getting out to the beach will ground and refresh you. Wish I could join you!Be well,LénaI promise, Marie Subject: Re: discouraged/frustratedTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 2:40 AM Ah Marie,You always cheer me up! Thanks! And remember to scratch the names of Lyme and co-infections in the sand on your favorite beach, to watch the waves wash them away. Please do it for me, as I'm nowhere near a beach these days.Be well,Léna

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