Re: new advo graphic re: restraint

[Guest guest]

> This is a photo some of you may have seen. I believe it was taken in

> 1999 or 1998. I don't know who the child is or where it was taken.

> It's of a woman sitting on the back of an autistic child in order to

> restrain her...I say autistic because it's a good guess actually, I

> can't prove it. I think it's a girl on the floor, but actually I

> don't know that either.

> any opinions about it before I post it on my site?

Yes, if you don't know " autistic " , don't say " autistic " , just " child " .

I think the point gets across either way, and there are other children

this kind of thing is done to. (I've seen way more kids than I want to

think about in that exact position who were not autistic.)

--

" For most of us, 'cure' sounds exactly like 'kill the person you are,

but animate your body with some alien force.' For most of us

'prevention' sounds exactly like 'genocide'. " - Tisoncik

[Guest guest]

Camille wrote:

> This is a photo some of you may have seen. I believe it was taken in

> 1999 or 1998. I don't know who the child is or where it was taken.

>

> It's of a woman sitting on the back of an autistic child in order to

> restrain her...I say autistic because it's a good guess actually, I

> can't prove it. I think it's a girl on the floor, but actually I

> don't know that either.

>

> any opinions about it before I post it on my site?

Use in and make a claim of what it is and you make a fool of yourself.

Unless you took the photo and know exactly what was going on you are

only guessing and probably wrong.

It could be two adults playing a takedown scene in BDSM. It could be two

teens wrestling. It could be a doctored photo. It could be a store

detective restraining a shoplifter. The person being restrained could be

a bank robber with a gun. There is no way that you can tell that it's a

child and an adult. There is nothing that points to it being an autistic

person. It's simply a photo and not a good one. It's fuzzy as if the

person who took it did not want people to see the real facts. If you

post it you are posting a lie. It would make you a fraud.

Anyway that's my opinion.

A.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

In this case the source of the photo is someone who claims to be the

parent of an autistic...can't prove it.

It is part of a series of photos that show the girl being restrained

and crying...

Could be staged, but that's beside the point. This kind of restraint

can happen and in the past has killed kids. I don't know if all the

special ed teachers have been taught not to do this now because of

fear of lawsuits. If they have stopped it's probably because of fear

of lawsuits...

Camille

>

> > This is a photo some of you may have seen. I believe it was taken in

> > 1999 or 1998. I don't know who the child is or where it was taken.

> >

> > It's of a woman sitting on the back of an autistic child in order to

> > restrain her...I say autistic because it's a good guess actually, I

> > can't prove it. I think it's a girl on the floor, but actually I

> > don't know that either.

> >

> > any opinions about it before I post it on my site?

>

>

> Use in and make a claim of what it is and you make a fool of yourself.

> Unless you took the photo and know exactly what was going on you are

> only guessing and probably wrong.

>

> It could be two adults playing a takedown scene in BDSM. It could be

two

> teens wrestling. It could be a doctored photo. It could be a store

> detective restraining a shoplifter. The person being restrained

could be

> a bank robber with a gun. There is no way that you can tell that it's a

> child and an adult. There is nothing that points to it being an

autistic

> person. It's simply a photo and not a good one. It's fuzzy as if the

> person who took it did not want people to see the real facts. If you

> post it you are posting a lie. It would make you a fraud.

>

> Anyway that's my opinion.

>

> A.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, it's easy to change the words.

Good point.

Camille

> > This is a photo some of you may have seen. I believe it was taken in

> > 1999 or 1998. I don't know who the child is or where it was taken.

>

> > It's of a woman sitting on the back of an autistic child in order to

> > restrain her...I say autistic because it's a good guess actually, I

> > can't prove it. I think it's a girl on the floor, but actually I

> > don't know that either.

>

> > any opinions about it before I post it on my site?

>

> Yes, if you don't know " autistic " , don't say " autistic " , just " child " .

> I think the point gets across either way, and there are other children

> this kind of thing is done to. (I've seen way more kids than I want to

> think about in that exact position who were not autistic.)

>

>

>

> --

> " For most of us, 'cure' sounds exactly like 'kill the person you are,

> but animate your body with some alien force.' For most of us

> 'prevention' sounds exactly like 'genocide'. " - Tisoncik